Discussion in 'Strings' started by mikeler, Mar 26, 2011.
As a lover of softer polys, I'll be here reading and posting!
If you want some string to try, let me know and I'll send you some. I'm never going to run out. Email me at PVStringing @ gmail . com and I'll send you what I give my customers. Not posting it here for...reasons
Thanks for the support. I find stringing to be therapeutic too, so the way fresh strings play are more important to me. I'll openly admit to be a poly rookie so any comments on strings are welcome.
So am I not allowed to tell people the name after I try it? Nevermind, I understand now. The conspiracy theorists will come out and accuse you of hawking Brand X. I have PayPal so I can buy some string off you. I'll send you an e-mail about it. Thanks buddy.
Everybody looking for soft polys should check*:
and both Mantis strings.
If they're not soft enough than... time to test some hybrids ;-)
(*based on strings that i ACTUALLY tried).
Nope, that's not it . I explained in the email, and it'd be a pretty useless test if you didn't post what the string that you're testing is. So yep, post away!
What's MB, Mosquito Bite? If so, I entirely agree. My sister who plays some serious tennis actually hated the MB. She thought it felt like mush when crossed with Laserfibre SNGPS. I think that's a string that WC came out with...because they could. It's as soft as Scorpion, but not as lively, doesn't have the spin of any of their other strings (I'd say equal or less than Silverstring) and holds tension the worst of any WC I've strung to date. Now, to be fair, the worst tension stability for a WeissCannon string is like talking about the least reliable Honda or Subaru.
I agree. It is definitely soft, and at the bottom of WC's tension stability ranks.
Now that I've used Scorpion 1.22 as well, MB could just be the thinner offering of it? Since it only comes in 1.16...
^^^ Thanks guys for the soft poly suggestions.
I don't think so. I think MB is softer, but it is also less responsive. Then again, MSV Hex 17 plays great while the 1.10 is sinful. :-?
Yea the forten broke. Thats ok my arm feels fine with the energy in the mains, it only started giving me trouble when I moved the tension up over 58.
What tensions have you tried it at?
I started the energy at 50 and the crosses at 52, played through 3 rackets like that, no pain.
Moved the energy to 55 and the crosses to 57, played through 3 rackets no pain.
Moved the energy to 59 and the crosses to 61 played through 3 rackets, some pain but nothing that lasted through a nights sleep.
Then I changed the crosses to mantis power multi and that caused some pain.
So I switched to an all multi setup for a few weeks, then I added the energy back in in the crosses, now the energy is back in the mains but I am going to keep it around 55.
Wow, that Mantis Power much be much stiffer than the Comfort version!
Spikey shark is another one you might want to try, its fairly soft and great for spin. Pretty average in other areas though.
I loved hexablade, it had great spin potential and i found it easy on the arm dispite not having a particularly low RSI stiffness rating, but i know pvaudio didnt like it in a hybrid so unless your willing to go full bed it might not be worth it.
and i plan on trying SP tornado soon in either a hybrid or full bed so ill let you know what thats like
Maybe, or maybe I just had it strung too high.
I was just looking at Tornado and Hyperion prices, definitely on the more expensive side.
Oh, there not so bad in the UK
Of the few copolys i've played with here are my favorite setups.
1 - Solinco Tour Bite 58lbs with Vanquish 60lbs
2 - Solinco Revolution 58lbs with TrueFeel 60lbs
3 - TopSpin Max Rotation full bed 58lbs
Due to an arm injury unrelated to tennis, I am going to natty gut this week. Will keep an eye on this thread for tension suggestions and string combo's for when I can go back to the spin friendly copolys.
If you want to try some soft full multi beds for awhile get a hold of Mantis Comfort Synthetic, Babolat Xcel or Pro Supex Maxim Touch. Gut will be best if you can afford it.
My stringer also mentioned both Xcel and Maxim if not gut. Seems you two think alike.
Gut $ is not an issue for me thankfully, so gut it is.
Mantis Comfort is the softest of those but all are nice and comfy. NXT Control the poly/multi mix is really soft so I would have to guess regular NXT is very soft too.
Weiss Cannon Turbo Twist is a very, very soft copoly, even more than B5E, Polyfibre Black Venom and others.
Also, retains tension very well.
Can be strung in the 50's.
Mikeler, can you make a comparison between Pro Hurricane and Pro Hurricane Tour?
I did report a few posts, I'll be honest.
He criticizes everything. Unbelievable.
I'm just starting out this venture into polys so I can't help you out now. Hopefully as I progress then I can contribute more to the knowledge base here. I'm sure there are plenty of folks here who will be able to give you a good opinion.
I will, to save Mikeler's arm.
PH (non-tour) is soft. One of the more forgiving polyesters, but tension hold is not one of its strong suits. Can be compared to the softer list of polyesters mentioned earlier in this thread, but cannot compete with Weisscannon when price and tension maintenance are concerned. Average spin and decent control, nothing to write home about.
PHT is super stiff, dies after about 4 hours (less for some). When fresh it does have good power and control, but still, a very stiff poly and mostly outdated "1st generation" poly technology when compared to what's available today.
Thanks JT. I'll pass on trying those two.
I pretty much found the same things when I used them (was asking to make sure I'm not crazy ) Which string from WeissCANNON would you recommend an aggressive all-courter with a one-handed backhand 4.5 thirteen-year-old use?
Beware, Mikeler, Hurricane is not so comfy, at least when using a stiffer racket.
Black5Edge or Turbo Twist. TT is more powerful and comfy, B5E more control and pretty soft for a copoly
Would you say then that TT is more like Black Savage and B5E is more like PH Regular?
Agree 100%. One of the craziest setups I ever tried was prestretched PHT in a Pure Drive @ 65 lbs. It was an absolute arm killer and had no feel whatsoever, but it lasted forever and the spin was amazing.
Oh lord no. TT is a soft, powerful poly that gives you very nice spin from all parts of the court. It's basically Pro Hurricane but softer, better spin, MUCH more power, better control...better everything. B5E is, IMO, the most unique string on the market right now. It doesn't feel like anything else.
I mostly hit with the Prince Recoil/MCS hybrid last night but I did spend a few more minutes with B5E/MCS. Maybe I need to try a different cross string as recommended by Bad_Call who sold me the half set. The setup is good but the spin potential is not as high as I would expect.
I have not used Black Savage. Pro Hurricane I used maybe a year ago and as I recall, B5E is different, more plush and soft.
Agree with this assertion!
Genesis Black Magic looks like a reasonable price and rodrigoamaral likes it. Anyone else play with this?
the MCS cross was acceptable and quite comfortable using BAM mains in the 4D100. think the B5E mains works better with stiffer crosses like syn gut or not soft/stretchy poly. let me know if you're interested in another string trade.
Personally, I cannot stand it. It feels very board-like to me. Genesis strings aren't typically tension temperamental, and I did string it at ~60lbs, so perhaps the tension was simply too high.
You need to string it at 50#s. It should not be boardy at all. It has incredible pocketing. Unless you are on the tour, stringng full poly at 60#s is a bad idea.
Loving it in the prestige. insane pocketing and durability has been awesome at this tension.
Sold, I'll have to add it to my next order.
I figured as much. This was, however, quite some time ago that I did this.
Yeah, and also some strings rule in some racquets and suck in others.
A softer poly than PH??? :shock: Can you elaborate more on B5E? Also, I'm about to playtest MCS Mains/ALU Power Rough Crosses. What tension do you recommend?
If you want softer than PH, PS Energy is the softest. However, tension hold is not so great, drops off after about 4-6 hours. But, it is the #1 comfort poly for sure.
I'm looking for something soft, but very lively (No arm problems and I am able to string poly around 60 lbs). Is TT lively?
Hyperion and Energy are probably the best for soft and lively.
If you break strings in 4-6 hours, use Energy; otherwise get Hyperion as it has amazing tension maintenance.
So I'm thinking I need to try PS Energy one more time as a full bed. The others on the shortlist now are Hyperion, Tornado and Black Magic.
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