Mikeler's Polys

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  1. Rozroz

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    so what tension did you start with? what was the time "map"?
    not sure how much my setup drops, but it's 17g -
    still, i start noticing "problems" only after around 12 hrs, so i need some kind of reference if i may try to go 18g..
     
  2. Fuji

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    Started at 54lbs in a Pure Storm Tour. (16x20) First 2 hours were decent, nice spin etc. Hours 4-6 sucked and then it broke. It felt bagged out at about hour 3, so after one hitting session. It broke the next day.

    -Fuji
     
  3. Rozroz

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    :(

    this sucks.
    was it the Cyclone Tour?

    so as opposed to these numbers, what was the difference with TB?
     
  4. Fuji

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    No that was regular cyclone in black.

    TB is a lot harder to break. That be it, it is a lot stiffer too. I get easily double the playability and life out of TB. TB I noticed plays well into the 10hour mark.

    -Fuji
     
  5. Rozroz

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    ok then. thanks.
     
  6. BorderLine

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    Mikeler introduced me to Weiss Cannon B5E for hybrid.

    I tried it full bed in a Volkl V1 Pro and it is so comfortable and high performing. The tension maintenance and consistency has been great. It is the sweetest string I have hit and I didn't ever see myself going full poly. I have had no arm issues with this at 55# or less.
     
  7. nytennis-74

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    Mikeler...u tested a lot of strings ... I have wrist and elbow issue (even cyclone tour).... What are ur thoughts on ashaway zx 16 black as a poly alternative for people with wrist and elbow issues? Any other alternatives? Thanks
     
  8. mikeler

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    Seeing a doctor is always the best idea with any injuries. I've never tried Ashaway in black but Zyex strings in general have a poly feel with some extra power. The feel is firm but they never bothered my arm. Give it a shot, otherwise you are left with trying multifilaments or gut. You may have to switch to a softer frame if that doesn't work. If all else fails, then take some time off.
     
  9. Nostradamus

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    Just tested the NEW Black code 4S string, strung at 50 lbs. Very pleasantly surprised indeed. Very nice power albeit little less than RPM blast which could be compensated by lower tension. Very very good Spin, lives up to its name. Control was what I had expected, very similar to its previous version. I am hoping control would get better as I get into 3rd hour of test. Much like RPM blast, when freshly strung, ball sometimes comes off the string bed HOT and flies, but as the string settles in and gets better ball pocketing, control actually gets better.....til the poly dies.

    forgot to mention, string bed feels pretty stiff, especially in the beginning. If you tap at it after stringing, you would think it is at higher tension and feel boardy. but when I started hitting the ball, I really didn't notice too much of bad vibration off of it. Much more Arm friendly than something like Techinfiber Razor code.
     
  10. nytennis-74

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    Thx... Saw doctor already and switched to prince tour 18x16... Will give it a shot before the dreaded switch to gut... Hopefully I don't have to.
     
  11. mikeler

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    Gut is a nice change for a bit if you can afford it. I'd rather be on the court and lose every match I play than not play at all.
     
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  12. g4driver

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    Try Pacific Tough Gut 16G Mains and Head Hawk 17g or Head Hawk Touch 17g crosses. PTG16/HH 17 strung at 60Mains/57Crosses last me 3x as long as 16g Cyclone Tour (which I use).

    Hey Mikeler,

    I took down my friend/nemesis 4.5 Lefty in singles last night for the first time in my life. He took the first set, but he got tired quickly and faded hard in the second set. Maybe the key was having him play 18 holes of golf and being so over confident he didn't even bring a towel. ;) He was drenched in humidity and sweat and I offered him no empathy as we listened to the sold out Counting Crows concert who were playing the Stadium court while we were just a few courts away. Hootie and the Blowfish play this Friday and Saturday, and it is pretty cool to being playing tennis with a descent live band playing just a few courts away.

    Let me know if you come back to Edisto.
     
  13. mikeler

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    Funny you mention Hootie. They used to be a college band back when I was in school. My roommate and I who had never heard them used to make fun of their band name. We would say "Yeah they are going to make it big one day." and snicker. Then a few years later, I was loving this song on the radio and...well...you can guess the rest of the story! We will definitely meet up one of these days my friend.
     
  14. g4driver

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    I was in CA when they were playing Columbia , SC and the college scene. They hit it big in 1994, and I saw them for the first time in 1995 in Dallas.

    Going to listen to them tonight - had floor tickets last year- great live band and Darius does a few nice R.E.M. covers and but he never sings any of his country hits.

    Reminds of John Mayer- when I saw him playing small venues in Birmingham and long before his first CD was released. It is great to see new artists make it big.
     
  15. SCRAP IRON

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    I am glad you tried this string because you have always been a proponent of ALU Power, so I have a good understanding of what you may prefer. I like ALU Power, but I couldn't use it because of the power level. I think Technifiber makes some of the best multi strings on the market, but I didn't find the polys that I used a few years ago like Black Code to be great performance strings. How would you compare 4S to ALU Power as far as feel goes? I know that I will enjoy the spin and control that 4S should provide.
     
  16. Nostradamus

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    I think feel is about the same. 4S seem little stiff sitting on the racket bed but vibration wasn't that bad, not as bad as I thought it would be. but feel is not as good as Alu power Feel string. but compared to Alu power rough, 4S is better.
     
  17. wings56

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    any ideas on going from 16g pro hurricane to 17g pro hurricane? will i need to increase or decrease tension?
     
  18. Ronaldo

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    Tend to increase tension especially when 17g splays easier.
     
  19. wings56

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    from what I've gathered, some strings are stiffer or looser than their 16g counterpart, so it's my understanding that it is string specific
     
  20. djNEiGht

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    Go with the same tension in your current gauge then adjust from there if you are worried about string specific. I usually go higher in tension when the gauge gets smaller
     
  21. Nostradamus

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    What is this new Solinco string that is updated version of tourbite ? has anyone tried this and is it really better than tourbite ?
     
  22. Muppet

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    It depends on what you're trying to accomplish by switching strings. To keep the feel and power as much the same as possible, I would go up 2 lbs. in tension. But if you're changing gauge to get more power, feel, and spin, keep the 17g tension the same.
     
  23. mikeler

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    I just bought some Orange Cyclone. It lasts longer in the hotter weather and I like the extra control over the Tour version in the heat. I'll switch back to Tour in December.
     
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  24. mikeler

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    I'm changing my rankings and putting Cyclone at #1 and Cyclone Tour at #2. I still think my theory that the Tour version is better in cold weather will pan out as I play with both through the winter. There are days where the conditions are damp and slow that Tour is better. Both strings are under $10 so the price/performance can't be beat. I like having frames with both strings in my bag depending on the day.

    IF I do start testing strings again, what are some of the newest 16g superstar polys out there?
     
  25. Nostradamus

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    Vokle V-star is very good string for its price. very good power and decent control
     
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  26. mikeler

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    Considering my new #1 and #2 are Volkl, I think that is a solid suggestion.
     
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  27. Nostradamus

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    Only thing is you probably have to string little bit tighter like 2-3 lbs tighter due to its high level of power for those guys that hit Huge. So one thing that I found very interesting about this poly in addition to good power is its Comfort.....surprisingly comfortable, no shoulder pain after 2 hours of hitting.
     
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  28. gvsbdisco

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    I think you should try the Diadem Solstice Power. I'd be curious to see what you think. I use the same frames as you and found it to be soft, powerful, excellent spin, decent touch but it broke a little quicker than some of the other strings I have tried. Oh and it is too expensive.
     
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  29. g4driver

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    Put down that crack pipe. ;) But the Cyclone 16g /Cyclone Tour 16g hybrid strung at 54 lbs in a 99S does last longer than the CT strung at 57/55.
     
  30. mikeler

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    Ooh, a hybrid. Nice idea!
     
  31. Ronaldo

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    On this thread, put down that starting clamp. String more than Melanie Molitor.
     
  32. g4driver

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    The Cyclone / Cyclone Tour hybrid gets him an extra few days for each 99S and he seems to like it as much as full CT.

    I should have ordered a reel of Black Cyclone 16g but instead got the Orange thinking it might be softer.


    Have you noticed any difference between the black, yellow, or orange ? Going to skip the pink.
     
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    Black seems softer than Orange but I hate the black ink lines on the ball.
     
  34. njhmusicman

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    +1 on Diadem Soltice!! I use the pro version in the 15L in my Wilson juice 100S spin effect racquet and it is awesome!! You should definitely try it out.

    Here is the link to my review on the string: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...oltice-15l-string-review.548449/#post-9798832
     
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  35. Nostradamus

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    Do you guys think overall quality and playability goes,,,,,is Babolat RPM blast a better string than Luxilon Alu power ? these are two of the best polys in the market today
     
  36. grip

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    Both of these strings are way over priced. If I was getting them for free ok but IMO Wilson Revolve & Isospeed LongLife Baseline are much better priced and as good or better.
     
  37. Nostradamus

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    I am not really concerned with price that much. but RPM blast is probably the highest rated poly that TW has ever tested...

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/BRPMB17/BRPMB17Review.html
     
  38. Imago

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    I am sure, Black Code will receive better scores than RPM Blast, if tested. :) Cf. the spin potential, to begin with... If not, we should take into account the subjective factor and withhold our uncritical faith in all human performed tests and assessments.
     
  39. g4driver

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    Thanks-

    ever notice the softness of the yellow compared to black or orange ?

    I am assuming you don't notice those yellow ink lines. ;)
     
  40. Doc Hollidae

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    Been using Big Hitter Blue 17g for the past 5+ years. I'm interested in trying some of the newer stuff, anyone have any suggestions for something that plays similar to BHB (Preferably $12 a set or less)? So far the strings I have on my list are Tourna Black Zone, Solinco Hyper-G, Volkl Cyclone, Wilson Revolve, Ytex Quatro Twist, and Solinco Revolution.

    I've never tried Tour Bite and have avoided Luxilon and Technifibre due to price.
     
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    Not in my price range and does not appear to come in a reel at TW.
     
  43. njhmusicman

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    Sorry, Doc. I did not see that you had a price range of $12 or less. My bad.
     
  44. Doc Hollidae

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    All good. Diadem does look intriguing, but for the price range I'm trying to stick to something that prices out to less that $10 a racket coming from a reel. Right now Big Hitter Blue costs me less than $4.50 a racket.
     
  45. mikeler

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    I haven't tried yellow.
     
  46. hmd

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    mikeler,

    What tension should I string a hyrid of Cyclone 17 and multi, when I play full multi setup at 54lbs?
     
  47. mikeler

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    I've never used 17g cyclone. What multi are you going to cross it with? What racket do you play with and describe your style of play.
     
  48. djNEiGht

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    For my 98 si 16 x 19 set up in full bed on a constant pull stringer

    multi 55
    syn 53
    poly 48

    hybrid
    poly main / sg cross - 50/53
    poly main / multi cross - 50/55

    hope this is something to help you get started
     
  49. hmd

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    Head Speed 16x19 100 head size
    Hit with lots of topspin
    PPA last about 8 hours at 53lbs
    Monogut ZX full bed 53lbs last anywhere between 1 and 40 hours depending on misfits, that's the only method that caused the ZX to break. I'm starting to threaten you for the tittle of 'king of mishits '.
    So I want to try Cyclone main and ZX cross, please suggest tension.
    I went with PPA on your recommendation and it was a really good multi.
    So hoping you can help again
     
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    Maybe try Cyclone at 50 and keep ZX at 53.
     

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