Mikeler's Polys

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  1. FedererBestTennis

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    Yessss...I am interested in a review for Black Magic. I will let you all know how MCS 55 lbs/ALU Power Rough 50 lbs plays on Thursday night!
     
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  2. GlenK

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    Well my (suggested by Luxilon) replacement for Supersense arrived yesterday, Lux M2 Pro. I've been playing with SS @ 60lbs and loved it.
    SS does drop tension fairly quickly so it's in the high 40s before ya know it.
    SO, I strung the M2 @ 58.

    Serves were unbelievable from the warm up. Now I see how Raonic gets so much pop on his serve. It's like this stuff grabs the ball and throws it where ever you want it. Volleys were outstanding too!!
    But groundies were another story. Hard time keeping it in the court and balls were flying long. Got tentative in a hurry, but as I played control got a bit better. At this tension pocketing was nothing like the SS.

    Raonic strings this stuff @ 41 lbs, so I'm going to try 48/50 on the other set I bought and see what happens. I'm so "old school" it ridiculous when it comes to tension, but I've got to get with the times and get this stuff down low. Just hope it holds the serve/volley performance when the tension drops.
     
  3. pvaudio

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    I was saying in another thread that Prince Recoil is the most overpriced string on the market. I think M2 is the second most. I bet you the reason they suggested it is because it's by far and away the most expensive string they sell, but the worst selling.
     
  4. mikeler

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    I'm with you on the low tensions. It just does not feel right! Next time out with PolyStar Energy I'm going to try it at 45 pounds. At 50 pounds it felt a little bit too stiff for my liking.
     
  5. mikeler

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    If Recoil was a few bucks cheaper it would not be too bad of a buy. Luxilon is just plain expensive.
     
  6. GlenK

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    I probably should try 45 too!! I need to work up my courage.. :confused:

    Maybe I'll do like 49, just to say I broke 50... Then try one more set lower @ 45 if I see big improvement @ 49. It just goes against everything I've known to string "lower" for more control..
     
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    I'm glad I got to try out 50 since now I know that was too high. Who knows, maybe I'll get super crazy and go down to 40.
     
  8. bad_call

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    and PE is supposedly softer than B5E. maybe "soft" isn't an accurate description.
     
  9. mikeler

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    I hit with the B5E with MCS so not really a fair comparison.
     
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    I went from a prestige strung at 58 with a hybrid to a prestige in the 40s full poly. I strongly reccomend an hour or 2 of hitting before matchplay or you will have no confidence because you have to get used to the ball trajectory. Once you get used to it, you will flip out at how much pace and spin you can hit with. I am talking heavy balls that appear to gain speed off the bounce and will kick forward and to the side, instead of just kicking straight up.

    I watched a lot of the FYB HD practice vids and saw Safin just going all out and ripping the ball like this and was blown away. He was hitting super heavy shots that had this action. He strings a lot higher since he is huge and one of the greats, and has fresh strung sticks at his disposal. I did not think that type of action on the ball was possible for a mere mortal, but once I hit with the BM strung lower, I saw a dramatic change.

    A week later, I feel kind of weird when I switch to the prestige that is strung tighter. It is very easy to control still, but my confidence level has changed to where the lower tension is now what I am prefering.

    May be a little different in the pstgt, since I had trouble with lower tensions in it due to it's power level.
     
  11. mikeler

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    I know what you mean by the trajectory even at 50 pounds. The ball just comes off the racket lower than it does on my multi setups.
     
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    Yeah, you will get awesome spin at lower tension polys. I personally think 45-50#s is nice and "mainstream". I can't subscribe to real low tensions though, like 30#s.
     
  13. GlenK

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    Well I split the difference. Just strung it up @ 48lbs. Bad weather here today but will play first thing in the morning. That's a 10 lb drop from the first set of M2. Can't wait to see how it feels. The funny thing is the ping still sounds high.

    This should be interesting..
     
  14. bad_call

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    yeah...too low and the game goes.
     
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    We have the same "bad weather" here! Good grief, some old guy is outside my office loading animals on his ship in pairs. :)
     
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    5 sets for $50 on that huge auction site.
     
  18. mikeler

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    Somebody must have already bought it, I don't see it.
     
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    I know who bought it :D :D :D
     
  20. mikeler

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    I think you may own more string than some of these online tennis retailers. :)
     
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    Hopefully his name isn't Noah! :)
     
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    I can play with poly in the mid-30s but after 1-2 hours the tension goes down too much and then against good players it's a real challenge.
     
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    Just curious, why do you use the poly/poly hybrid in your signature?
     
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    Just experimenting. I was using Forten Sweet as a cross and then Cyber Blue all with Tornado as a main. I like Hyperion because of it's tension maintenance but might go back to something softer.
     
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    So do you restring that often?

    I'm finding that 4-5 hours is the tipping point with Energy which is known for tension loss. Meanwhile Scorpion at 4-5 hours (same initial 43lb tension) is going strong. I like Energy when fresh but Scorpion after 2 hrs of use.

    So I'm thinking Scorpion as a backup to freshly strung Energy may be a good 2-stick solution... (for when Energy just dies on you mid-point... now I can relate to that, heh)... But, still experimenting it seems :/
     
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    No, I don't restring often. I was getting 12 hours out of the Tornado/ Sweet hybrid so it will interesting how Hyperion fares as a cross. I've heard good things about it's tension maintenance.
     
  27. mikeler

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    Just got some PolyStar Energy 17 in today along with Polyfibre Gutex 16. Since there is little information on the Gutex, I went ahead and strung it up. Will post the results in my multis thread. So my next poly hitting opportunity should be Tuesday with the B5E/MCS hybrid again.
     
  28. GlenK

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    The weather was decent enough yesterday that I got a good test on the Lux M2 strung @ 48 lbs. It felt good on some shots and not so good on others. The groundies were an improvement over the 58 lbs, but volleys were very hard to control. Seems like something in the middle around 53/54 may be the perfect tension for this string for me.

    Playing with tension this low surely takes some adjustment time in itself.

    The search for Supersense replacement continues. :grin:
     
  29. FedererBestTennis

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    I have a half set of M2 that I am not sure to hybrid with. Any suggestions? I would probably put the poly in the cross as I prefer it this way. Also what tension?
     
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  30. GlenK

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    I haven't used M2 as a Hybrid yet, but as a full bed I think 54 or 55lbs would be about right. I tried 58 and it was a bit to tight, also tried 48 and it was ok on groundies, but no control on volley's.

    I cut out the 48 and still have the 58 strung up. I like the string but just can't get the tension right. At either tension, this stuff was great on serves..
    I'm going 55/54 on the next full bed.
     
  31. FedererBestTennis

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    Would you be able to make a recommendation tho? A basic synthetic gut as the mains? Perhaps 57/53...
     
  32. GlenK

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    Yes, I'd try it there. As long as the M2 is in the mid 50s.
     
  33. bad_call

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    GlenK - dialing in the appropriate tension for ground stroke depth is what this player seeks. serves require minor adjustment which isn't difficult unless a player doesn't have a consistent one in which case tension isn't the issue. ;)
     
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    I agree bad call. And the balance between groundies and volley's is tricky too. This sting is better at higher tensions on volleys, and better for groundies at a lower tension. That's why I think mid 50s would dial this stuff in pretty well.

    Here is a play test on the M2 Plus, which is the 1.30 version. I tried the M2 Pro which is 1.25mm. I always like around 1.25..

    http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com/articles/2010/01/playtest_luxilon_m2_plus.html
     
  35. JT_2eighty

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    ^^^ hey, there are sets of Supersense for sale on TW... if you didn't know
     
  36. GlenK

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    Thanks JT.. I just bought their last 4 sets.. Thought I had already bought them out!! :grin:
     
  37. bad_call

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    m2 went south too soon for this player. had to work too hard after that.
     
  38. GlenK

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    I kinda thought that might be the case. Haven't played with it long enough for that to yet. I think I knew it was not "the One"..
    I may try one more set at a mid 50s tension. I think Mikeler might have the right idea with a hybrid of some sort. Want to hear how that works out.

    This afternoon I'm trying out Alu power mains and Rip control crosses. That could be interesting.
     
  39. bad_call

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    don't forget to try BBO 16g...my fave in the Lux strings.
     
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    ^^ I will try it. I have Timo 122, Alu power and rough, and power fluoro 123 in my inventory, but no original. I'll order some with my next order.
     
  41. mikeler

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    I had such a bad experience with BBO that I can't bring myself to use Luxilon again. Feeling a tingling in my elbow today after playing 5 sets this weekend, hopefully my poly trials don't have to end prematurely.
     
  42. JT_2eighty

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    What strings were you using? Some poly and some multi?
     
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    BBO mains with a synthetic gut cross (probably Gamma). This was before everyone started going very low on the tension.
     
  44. JT_2eighty

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    Ok. I also meant during your 5 sets this past weekend?
     
  45. mikeler

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    I did not use my poly setup at all this weekend.
     
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    Long time ago I used RPM Blast. Found Weiss Cannon B5E to be similar, maybe a tad more control and less power.

    A string specialist told me that RPM Blast tension maintenance is very bad and that B5E is excellent. Any comments about this?:)
     
  47. mikeler

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    RPM Blast is a little pricey for my tastes. Just setup a match for today, so I'll try out the B5E setup again tonight.
     
  48. Donny0627

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    you know, heres a nice guy(mikeler) trying to help everyone on these boards out and give some honest reviews of strings. And heres you bashing him. Personnally I think an hour is a fair assessment for the most part. Besides, even if he wants to try each string for 2 minutes and post a review, then he has the right to do so within reason.

    The whole point is that you could have openned this thread, thought to yourself, "man, he needs to give the strings some more time to break in, drop tension, etc.". (IF, that is actually what you think). At that point you should have closed the thread and just ignored it in the future.

    OR:

    At the very least you should have nicely posted a comment saying, "please keep us updated on your thoughts on the strings after they have time to break in, and you get used to the feel.

    BUT:

    You didn't do either of those things. You came on here and trolled, giving your horrible(and in my opinion false) thoughts that meant nothing to everyone. Didnt your mother ever tell you "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't bother saying anything at all"?
     
  49. bad_call

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    got good results with BBO 16g at mid to upper 40's tension in a hybrid.
     
  50. mikeler

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    Hit with B5E/MCS again tonight. Man that is a nice comfy setup. Full review tomorrow.
     

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