Millions offered to Djokovic and Nadal by the Russians?

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  1. Paullaconte1

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    oh boy, I like this one.

    It seems that the Russians have offered millions to Djoker and Nadal to play the Kremlin Cup.

    http://newyork.tennistonic.com/view...o-Djokovic-and-Nadal-for-the-2013-Kremlin-Cup

    http://www.tennisearth.com/news/ten...being-chased-for-Kremblin-Cup-2013-791500.htm

    http://en.ria.ru/sports/20121025/176916741.html

    If true I think that for the top players the prize money for winning a... let's say 500 atp tournament is not so important anymore if they can have that sum only to play a 250 ATP.

    I also hope that the Russians won't try to take over tennis with megadollars... same as the Middle East?
     
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  2. PeteD

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    Doesn't sound right
     
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  3. Tennis_Hands

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    As I said in the Nadal News thread, not everybody is willing to play everywhere just for the money.

    Besides, the Russians will be having problems paying megadollars in the near future, as their petrodolars/gasdollars reserves are drying up fast. Very fast. The tournament in 2013 might be a one off.
     
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  4. Clarky21

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    Nadal will accept and play there and then turn around and whine about there being too many hardcourts on tour,and how they're ruining his body. Lol.
     
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  5. Sabratha

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    Nadal might come back for it.
     
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    Obviously, this is a country with a rich tennis history where people and businesses are willing to give their last penny to the two best players to come down and further promote the sport. I wonder what it's costing them to keep Fred out of Moscow every year...:lol:
     
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  7. Bartelby

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    Maybe they'll make money on fixing the result?
     
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  8. SoBad

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    I doubt it - this kind of thing is usually done in places like London, New York, or Melbourne, where there is organized crime...
     
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  9. Bartelby

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    Yes, well, everywhere there's a strong emigre community.
     
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  10. SoBad

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    American illegals have been a growing problem in Moscow since before people like Paul Tatum and their shady dealings in the 1990s.
     
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    I'm sorry... but how much is Dubai paying Federer to play there EVERY year?
     
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  12. Mike Bulgakov

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    Why not take pride in Russian organized crime? After the Soviet Union, many former KGB officers and best minds in Russia, regarding banking and financial matters, turned to activities deemed illegal. They have mostly avoided prosecution, as have people involved in seemingly quasi-legal and illegal activities in the U.S. and Western Europe. International Russian organized crime is generally more sophisticated than what you see coming from elsewhere.:)
     
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  13. SoBad

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    Activities deemed illegal by whom? The widely unpopular dictator crooks and thieves who had kept 200 million people in the 19th century for over 70 years?
     
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  14. Mainad

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    Lol...you think there's no organised crime in Moscow??? :lol:

    Wonder why they don't want to attract the biggest star in tennis...Sir Roger himself?? :confused:
     
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  15. SoBad

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    Probably because they are sophisticated tennis connoisseurs who only want the best people and players to promote the sport in the city, as opposed to overrated psychotic no-talent hacks who piled up slams in a weak era? What do you think? Have you seen organized crime when you were in Moscow?
     
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  16. Mike Bulgakov

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    The West. Many of the unpopular dictator crooks and thieves turned to crime after the Soviet Union dissolved.
     
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  17. SoBad

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    There were issues in the 1990s, but I think they had to do with transformation of institutions (such as police or prosecutors) rather than organized crime. A driver hitting an elderly lady in the city street (for example) and getting away with it is a serious problem for the society, but has little to do with organized crime, real or imagined. A guy like Tatum getting knocked off in a subway underpass is only an issue if a stray bullet hits an innocent tobacco kiosk. People like him make their own choices.
     
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  18. Mainad

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    Oh I see. So you don't think people would bother to come and watch Federer play in Moscow unlike every other city on Earth?

    Not personally. But I watch and read the news.
     
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  19. goran_ace

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    Don't be so shocked. Appearance fees, and in amounts in excess of the total prize money offered, aren't exactly a new concept in professional tennis.
     
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  20. Bartelby

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    And now they're up to the prohibition-era, unfortunately.



     
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  21. SoBad

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    We'll never know if anyone in Moscow would bother to show up to watch overrated Federer, because the corporate budgets do not have the funds to pay for his room and meals.

    I have spent a lot of time in Moscow, but I hardly watch or read the news. So what did the news say?:lol:
     
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    Oh really? I thought you could still pretty much drink and smoke anywhere you want anytime you want in those parts?
     
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  23. Bartelby

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    Gangsters fighting for control over assets due to the collapse of state authority???
     
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  24. SoBad

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    Sure, business people often compete for resources. When institutions are weak, they often have to rely on private security mechanisms rather than the weak institutions.
     
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    This is why I hate the corrupt Arabian and Russian states. In the West, tennis tournaments have to actually make a profit and they do.
     
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  26. Sumo

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    Are you saying there is no organized crime in Russia?
     
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  27. SoBad

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    Or maybe the hotels won't let him stay there because he steals things from hotel rooms.
     
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  28. SoBad

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    I am not aware of any, how about you?
     
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  29. DanaKz

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    LOL, no, they are all talk.
    They said they will bring Federer and Nadal this year, and then they whined how "Federer and Nadal laughed in our face" because offer was so small.
     
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  30. Mike Bulgakov

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    Way off topic: HBO's "Boardwalk Empire" is a very entertaining series dealing with political corruption during the U.S. prohibition.

    Slightly on topic: Yevgeny Kafelnikov, the man with a private plane before they were popular on the ATP, is the GOAT regarding chasing appearance fees.
     
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  31. Shaolin

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    Nadal will probably play it and then complain how the season is too long and has too many hardcourt matches.
     
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  32. Big_Dangerous

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    He also has a residence there for tax purposes.

    But I also say Murray and Djokovic in in Dubai this year as well, so come on with that.
     
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    Don't know, or don't want to know too many facts, do we?
    Electrification, check
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    Hmmm, yeah, 19th century for sure...
    Yes, the system was different then what "Democratic brainwash" wants us to blindly follow, as well as the methods of governing (which I'm not approving, btw). Yet, the people beneffited in many ways, that Western establishment doesn't want to admit. And don't even get me started on how, why and by whom, was the Communism orcestrated in Russia, to beggin with.
    Also, maybe count for yourself, on how many items from my list, had US failed?

    Oh, for the record - I'm not a Russian.
     
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  34. vive le beau jeu !

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    so they're concerned because of the depleted fields this year at moscow and st-pete ?
     
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  35. SoBad

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    How did those work, exactly?

    That much I could tell. Have you spent much time there?
     
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    This. Clarky you beautiful poster you.
     
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    You should spend some time with my buddy google. He knows a lot.
     
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  38. sunof tennis

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    And you have never heard of the Russian Mafia?
     
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  39. Huanita99

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    as if both Novak and Rafa don't have enough money. Djoko didn't even play 4 mandatory 500 events this year, didn't give a crap about the SO. why would he show up in Kremlin? Nadal is stupid enough to probably do it (I'm saying this because I love him btw).
     
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  40. coloskier

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    Are you kidding me??? The entire country of Russia is run by organized crime.
     
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  41. underground

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    Federer has his own home in Dubai though, he even trains there, so it wouldn't be hard for him to play there.
     
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  42. Paullaconte1

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    Interesting how this discussion was about the offer to Djokovic and Nadal and it ended up as a political thread.. lol
     
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    sobad in a russian thread.....can only be so...bad
     
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    I heard that Federer offered Djokovic and Nadal millions of dollars to sleep with Mirka, while he watches. They both declined.
     
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    I am sure you know a lot more about this than I do, but if an organization is running a country, as you suggest, isn't "government" the proper term, as opposed to "mafia", "pizza", or "trattoria"?:lol:
     
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  46. adamX012

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    how are you? still alive after "Sandy" visited your apt with her mafia friends?
     
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    I nearly died from the storm, but then I went to the Chiang Kai-sheks' place at CPW/66 for a party and felt better.
     
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    Chiang kai shek's great grand daughter might welcome you to her Humble place. I think she has been traveling between two states a lot.
     
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  49. SoBad

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    Lincoln Center sounds like a perfectly acceptable piece of dowry.
     
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  50. adamX012

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    Lincoln's movie is out soon. maybe, grab a glass of wine for movie dinner before dowry takes place, huh?
     
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