Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by 000KFACTOR90000, Feb 13, 2011.
Wilson K blade 98 18x 20 strung with Luxilon M2 Pro at 42/44lbs
Where did this wisdom come from?
Not that i'm doubting you, but it would be nice to have a source. There's more than enough crazies in here yelling out all kinds of info that's blatantly incorrect.
http://tennisandgear.posterous.com/ DAY 16
"...K Blade 98, 18 x 20 pattern with Luxilon M2 Pro at 42/44lbs..."
I am surprised he is going that low.
Sure top ten player inside this year. Emulated SAmpras serve. Uses lux m2 pro, at 42/44lbs.
Comments: I definitely think this string has its ups and downs, especially as time passes by. I currently have a full string bed of these set up on my Pure Drive Cortex (not that GT crap) at 58lbs. This is my second "session" of having these strings on my racquet (each session about 3-4 months long). In my opinion, I think it's about time to change up my choice in strings, it's not at all that the strings are bad, in fact I remember the second time I got on the court with these on, she was a thing of beauty, (first time was sorta stiff). But, with time, these strings lose their playability by a lot. You may say, that's the same with all strings on the market, but this one's got a sharp drop in playability after a slow increase in it. Think of it this way:first time-decent, nothing impressive rest of the first month-great spin, power (especially on pure drive), control (even on the pure drive) and it's only getting better. 2nd month-it's already reached its peak in the first month and you don't see anything special from it anymore 3rd,4th month-decent decrease in performance Also, I don't know who these people are that say it keeps moving around. They definitely strung it at a terrible tension then, mine is definitely not at the same tension as it originally was, but I maybe have to re-adjust it.. once a match, and I'm a fairly hard hitter with spin.
From: John, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(4.5 NTRP, Babolat PureDrive Cortex)
Comments: I really like this string. It has nice feel and really great control. The only bad thing is that I broke it in 4 days.
From: Kyle, Siesta Key, FL, USA. 07/10
Comments: The best string I have ever played with. The product description is absolutely true. It is soft on lighter shots and provides excellent control on harder ones. This string provides great control when hitting serves and groundies from the baseline and the best touch and feel on volleys that I have ever experienced. I have in strung at 58 lbs on my Head Pure Competition (102 Sq in head size).
From: Joe, Waterbury, CT. 6/10
Comments: Possibly the greatest string ever - has all the power and awesome spin production of Alu Power except in a softer and more versatile package. It is amazing on full blooded shots and has superior touch on volleys. It does take a day for the strings to settle in after stringing and when they do, they simply don't move and always return to place. Due to the softness they can be strung a tad tighter than most regular polys and have great durability. Highly recommended.
From: Nathan, Greensborough, VIC, Australia. 6/10
Comments: Strung this racquet at 55 lbs on my Aeropro Drive Gt and it didn't live up to my expectations. These strings produce a fair amount of power but lacks a little on the topspin side. The strings are too soft but probably recommended for flat hitters.
From: Peter Nguyen, CA, USA. 06/10
Comments: A great product if you like to rearrange your strings between every point. They move like CRAZY on my Head MicroGel Prestige, so much so that I've decided to just cut them out and write this one off as trial and error. Luxilon missed the boat on this one. This is definitely no Big Banger. Decent response and power, but not worth all the repositioning you'll have to do between shots! Strung at 62 lbs.
From: Derek, Carmichael, CA, USA. 03/10
Comments: The best string that I have used - have my Rebel 95's strung with this at 58lb and it is godly!! Love hitting out with the ball, which produces an excellent amount of spin and I have not got any arm pain from this at all. I have used the same set for a month now and I haven't experienced the noticeable tension loss that others have mentioned. I found it best when strung at mid to high tension, then you get the real benefit of this Lux masterpiece. All Alu Power uses owe it to themselves to give this string a go -this is my replacement for Alu Power.
From: anon. 11/09
Comments: I strung it on my Ficher M Pro 98 as a part of hybrid together with Tecnifibre X-One Bi-Phase (on crosses), and considering that I usually string with it Luxilon BB Rough, I think I could compare it quite well. The tension was 57lbx57lb, and when I started warming up from the half-court I felt like it was a few lb less ... however when I started hitting the ball harder it was coming back to the usual feeling of 57lb. I know its exactly what has been advertised, but changes in tension creeped me out, so as I was about to play a match I took another racquet simply to keep myself focused. I should give it another chance, but it was an interesting first experience.
From: Dusan, Moscow, Russia. 9/09
Comments: Great string. Got 2 Kpro Tour rackets from TW strung with this string. I really like this string. It has good power, spin, and is easy on the arm.
From: Bhagi, Hannibal, MO, USA 09/09
Comments: Great string if you are looking for a slightly softer version of big banger ALU. It has the typical Luxilon stiff feel and great spin potential. I have played with it twice and have not noticed the dead feeling that occurs after playing with Big Banger ALU 3-4 times. Its been a good string so far. However, don't think this is a true arm friendly string as it is being marketed. Its arm friendly compared to other Luxilon and poly based strings, but its still Luxilon. I strung it as a hybrid with natural gut on the cross strings and is still much stiffer than using a string such as prince synthetic gut.
From: anon. 07/09
Comments: I usually like Luxilon strings, but with this, the 1st hitting session is very very stiff, you tend to lose a lot of power and ball bite. Hurts the arm. Then comes the 2nd session, the tension drops well over 2-3 lbs, making the shots uncontrollable, spins are difficult to get and ball will fly out. String is softer alright, but if you string it 2 lbs less for the first session, you will be way under in the second session. I will let you know how the 3rd session goes if I do not cut it first. Quite un-usable....
From: ST Leung, San Jose, CA, USA. 07/09
Comments: I'm a NCAA college player with lots tennis experience in all sorts of strings and racquets. I decided to try the M2, it's so much better then the Luxilon ALU Power. This string is perfect, much softer on the arm and great for control shots, power shots and spin are excellent too. If your good player then tension loss isn't even noticeable. Good job Luxilon keep up the good work.
From: Anthony, MI, USA 07/09
Comments: These are the good strings for spin. I mix them with pro hurricane tour 16 on the mains and cross with M2 crosses. I string them at 56 and the mains I string them at 57. It is a good deal to buy!
From: Matt, Lakemont, WA, America. 06/09
Comments: These are good strings for spin. I mix them with Pro Hurricane Tour 16 on the mains and cross with M2. I string them at 56 on the crosses and 57 on the mains. This string is a good deal.
From: Matt, Lakemont WA, USA 06/09
Comments: Great control string, allows you to hit without holding back. Great spin and feel. Excellent baseline shots and control for net play. Plays very well when fresh but doesn't hold tension for long. Also not very durable for a poly. Lasts about 2 days of solid playing for me, 1st day is excellent, 2nd day is okay. If I don't play on it for a day, it loses too much tension, becomes less lively and harder to control. Not as stiff as most polys, but not extremely soft either. Kind of expensive for me as its about $60 in string a week, but worth it sometimes. I won't play on this string every day, but I will be sure to keep a couple sets at home. It's not the easiest to string, but take your time and don't kink it and you'll be fine. Head Prestige Mid, 24.5 M/23.5 C kg. All around player.
From: NCAA College level player. 4/09
Comments: This string is one of the best strings I've ever tried! If you are a hard hitter, this string is the one to use. Don't do a hybrid with this string.
From: Daniel, Chesterfield, MO
Comments: Great string for the first 2 sets. After that tension drops like crazy. I even let it sit for 48 hours after stringing, which usually stops rapid tension loss after a couple sets for poly. Most spin I have ever hit with. Comfortable and a lot of ability to hit out. I strung at 54 in a Volkl DNX 10 Mid and it was wonderful for the first two sets. I got it as a free sample and I would not pay 20 dollars for it due to the huge drop in tension. Otherwise, a great string.
From: Anon, USA. 3/09
Comments: This was a very unique string to try out. It feels like a poly/syn gut hybrid all in one string. Great spin and power is great on high racquet speed shots and very forgiving on low racquet head speed shots. The tension maintenance is just not there with this string. I had it strung at 57# but should've went up to low 60s. Tension dropped significantly after the first hitting session. Power went from being controllable to a semi rocket launcher. I'd recommend this string to double players because it has very good pop and control at the net.
From: Serge T., Elgin, IL, USA. 3/09
Comments: Put this in at 59 lbs after a few years of Big Banger Original in my Flexpoint Prestige Mid and current Microgel Prestige Mid. A little too tight the 1st session - will go with 58 or 57 the next time - but on the 2nd hit really started feel the added spin with no loss of the usual Big Banger power. Another winner from Luxilon for the advanced player...
From: Mark, 4.5 NTRP, all courter, Redondo Beach, CA, USA. 2/09
In 2009 he was using a regular Kblade. I customized several of them for him at a futures event where he won $290.
Interesting - it must feel good to see him doing well !
I removed (probably h22) from my original post
Somebody else posted that Raonic's racquet is actually: "He uses an h22, with it looks like to me, a full vs team gut job"
The H22 is a limited-production Wilson racquet for pros, 27.5 in.
Not saying this is true. But there is this alternate theory.
Pictures show markings that aren't normally on the K Blade.
It may be an h22, and not 27.5". I have two of them, 27". Florent serra was using a 27.5" h22. I doubt a club stringer would know the slight differences, grommet set, paint, trade marks, curvature, thickness of beam.
What mass, total grams, bal. pt, string did he use? Silicone in handle?
I'm confused. The h22 comes in two lengths?
How does someone get one?
This setup will surely raise your serve speed 20-30mph.
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It looks like Natural Gut to me..
Just look at the color
M2 is that same natural color.
he looks like tsonga to me :-|
Like I said, it was a regular Blade in 2009. And I'm no club stringer, I've done 3/4 Slams and several other large events. I'm very familiar with an H22.
Kiteboard just got served!!!!!!!
Ha ha ha this was funny...ace out wide by ihearit1st
I wasn't trying to be rude. But it was odd that he just assumed that I didn't know anything. Says something about his personality.
He claims to know more about pro stocks than anyone, don't worry, he knows a lot, but he assumes that he's always right and thinks every pro uses a pj...
What size grip does he use?
God forbid someone doesn't use pro stock and a hybrid with poly...
haha yeah idk if this is a recent trend or something with “pro stock”. Back in the 90s I honestly don’t remember hitting with a journeyman pro using anything but an off the shelf stick. Of course some top players like Edberg had paintjobs etc but most journey men with sponsorships got sent off the shelf racquets that they customized themselves with lead and what have you. Now it seems like every 5.0 racquet hack is using some top secret pro stock back engineered alien technology mold that the average joe can’t buy. Must definitely be something I missed out on.
kiteboard seems to get flamed a lot, ive seen the things he writes and its just well off. anyone can read about h22 and pt57a blah blah blah and reiterate it. if you ask me he's annoying and just comes on these boards to try and feel special.
43 yrs. playing, hundreds of tournaments, thousands of string jobs, gives me the right to say the things I do. I've biked through Washington almost to Canada (Tacoma) in one day with a fully loaded bike against the wind on the coast. I've rewired thousands of houses, in the dirt crawling. I've done 1500 pge mains. I've seen Laver play and everyone inbetween. I've biked up Haleakala without water, 36 miles uphill in the Hi. sun. I set the track records in an all black school in Richmond, ca., that stood until the school was bull dozed. (Four shot to death when I was there.) I've finished top ten norcal in both 4.5 and 5.5 play, and beaten the top players with no coaching, training, or lessons at all. On speed and guts alone with no technique.
If you can't love yourself who can you love? And you sir certainly LOVE yourself. You rock our world.
Really just the nose...and the serve.
Impossible. how does he control 42/44 lbs tension ? that is so loose ?
same way Federer does?
Fed is at 48/45, too loose for both, and both are going long too much. Fed will beat Rayoneeeetch, no problem due to his consistency issues.
Sometimes you say things that are uncalled for and rude. You definitely do not have the right to say rude things. You come off as high and mighty. If you have had such experiences, then try to use them in a positive way instead of just talking down on someone.
I've seen a lot of stupidity on this forum, but this comment has got to take the cake. I like how by saying you can do things most can't seen things most have not and felt things most haven't, you must also realize you're saying that you know what most others can do, have seen and have felt, if this is true perhaps you should change you're user name to Kiteboard the omniscient, but if anything all you've displayed is how little you've learnt in you're 43+ years.
He restrings every 2 hours of play. You might string at 50 lbs but after playing a few hours it would drop to about 45 and you can control it right?
Yeah back in the 90s Ivanisevic would break all his racquets, then go to Walmart and buy Prestige 600 and play his next match. But really, only the Head sponsored pros use custom sticks. The Babolat players just use stock racquets, albeit older models painted like new ones.
In the past 6months I have never strung my sticks above 40lbs. (18kl)... and am never going back!!!!!
It's really not that 'mushy' or 'unweilding'.... really opens up the sweetspot.... besides technique dictates where the ball goes .... not string tension.... string tension just helps it get there faster.. :smile:
I've been using 40 lbs main and 35 lbs cross. BUT they're polyester. I don't feel I lose much control, in fact it's easier to control my shots with it. I won't string that low if I were using natural gut.
Dude can flat at crank that serve and groundies!! He just needs to find some clothes that fit him! He is a big boy and he looks like he is wearing junior size shorts/shirts-- But it obviously is not affecting his game too much--he is in a zone right now!!:twisted:
Pretty funny... I thought the same thing. Kind of a retro look when shirts and shorts were tight.
Re the comments about the ability to control at a low to mid 40 tension using poly in a midsized frame, it IS controllable by helping to generate more spin and better ball pocketing. IMO, as poly continues to be more popular, you'll find more full-bed setups in the pros at lower tensions. True, low tension with more elastic strings like multis, gut and syn gut are way to lively. Poly is truly another story.
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Bobo, are you related to Bobo the clown? Clownish comment, ignoring a simple truth. Bad call, where did he get my pic? Here are some pics of Bobo:
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Here are some of my posts: Regarding: internal body rhythm, lull jam finish strategies: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/search.php?searchid=9744596
Here are some of my posts re: string: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/search.php?searchid=9744631
haha i agree. Problem is he's tall but lanky. The needs tailored clothes that are narrow but long. It's hard to find off the shelf stuff like that but at this point i'm sure a clothing company would custom tailor something for him. Nothing looks worse than a tall lanky guy wearing XXL clothing that looks like they’re wearing a parachute because clothing companies don’t put out enough variety in sizes
Hairpin is probably default at 27.5". If you want shorter, you cut it.
It's on the WIlson site now, as well.
You really got serious issues!. Theres ppl on this board who play at much higher level than you, are 10 times more experienced and knows much more than you ever will, but you dont hear them talk arrogant BS like you!.
The threads you linked to is not exactly revolutionary you know.. Everyone who received proper coaching knows these strategies and every decent coach knows how to teach them.
Christ dont even bring up stringing.. You recommend ppl to change their crosses only:shock:. Something every stringer would warn ppl about.
Is it now Im supposed to say that playing tournaments every month since the age of 10, tested pretty much every frame made since the 80´s, played div1 for many years, been stringing my own frames since I was 11 and did a few ATP events some years ago when I worked at a pro shop gives me the right to say the things I do?, I can do things you cant, I have seen and felt things you havent?. I would consider myself pretty arrogant, but thats probably just were we are different, because you dont!.
Who knew this was so serious!
One would think we were in the midst of Libya, with machine guns firing, not discussing tennis strings.
That may be the most arrogant thing I've ever seen anyone ever write about themselves. :shock:
Ugh I know how he feels! I'm not that tall, but I'm stupidly lanky. I need clothes that are between a L and XXL Depending on the brand to fit me properly, while I am naturally a medium.
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