Mixed Doubles vs Pushers with a happy ending.

DavaiMarat

Professional
I played a mixed doubles match the other day for an Inter-County mixed league for my friends team. I played with my girlfriend Kristine, a fairly competent volleyer with a wicked two handed backhand. We played the #1 position and I was pretty confident coming into the match having won a tournament with Kristine recently.

We started to warm up and I was flabbergasted. I was rallying with the guy and couldn't even keep the rally going. It's like he never seem topspin before?!? He could only slice his backhand and even that was a choppy looking abbreviate stroke. I tried to keep a straight face but it was down right hysterical.

I didn't seen much of Kristine's warm up but I noticed they lady on the other side wasn't moving much. Any ball out of her reach she let go and only hit the ball that was coming directly to her.

To my error, I thought we had the match won before we even finished the warm up.

Then the match started. The both stayed on the baseline. I was like, how the heck did these people get to play #1 and A? We broke the man right away 15-40 game. The only point we lost was a ball I miss the side line by 2 inches going down the line, passing the immobile lady (Amy).

Ok then it started. I hit 2 service winners and dumped a volley into the net. 30-15. I was fine let's keep it going. I spun a slice serve in to the lady and pop, there it was, the backspin lob, high and expertly hit with a little bit of slice to make sure that when it landed it was devoid of all momentum.

A feeling of dread came over me, one that hasn't hit me in a long while, the 'it's going to be one of those matches' feeling.

I run around it and hit a inside out forehand to her, making sure to get enough top on it to keep it inside the court (you hit a dead ball flat = out). Again, up in the air, high as can be same lob, deep, over Kristine's head and to me. Ok, fine I take the overhead and hit it long. That was the beginning of the end of the 1st set.

The 1st set was incredulous, there was nothing but lobs coming from them. Obviously they practice this style of just lobbing everything that comes to them. Mind you, the lobs were deep and without pace and the harder we seem to send them back the deeper the seem to place the lobs. I tried bringing them to the net and even from a position where they could of attacked a little, nope, up 30 feet in the air near the baseline. We started to make alot of errors.

Then the typical things that kills players against pushers began to settle into my mind. How bad a player they were. How cowardly they were. How they had no appreciation of how to play 'good' doubles. The fact was they were causing us to make errors off of deep balls with no pace, they were doing what they had to do to win the match. Obviously they were less skilled then us, but they were crafty, they were winning by forcing us to make errors. You may have the most beautiful looking forehand or overhead in the world but if you rip it out, then it still counts against you. They were consistent to, nothing wasn't a lob. Obviously, we were frustrated and insulted to be even on the same court as these two debutants.

To make a long story short, we lost the 1st set 1-6. Alot of deuces but we couldn't stop making the unforced errors. We refused to change it up, sticking to the same style, I was stubborn and mad and I felt like just throwing the match, something I've never done ever. We were losing to people probably a whole point and half lower then us.

During the change over, I took a long drink and took stock of the situation. Then it hit me, something one of my oldest coaches told me, 'respect the pusher'. My old coach, who actually played junior doubles with kalfenikov told me that, the way a pusher beats you, is make you disrespect him. Then any shout from him you almost feel indignant to hit. The thoughts about 'why are you even on the court with my 'greatness'' start to flow thru your mind. Coupled with the conumdrum of a new deep pace-less ball deep sitting in front of me starts to make you reckless and impatient. Boom. You begin to implode and start thinking about things you rather be doing then playing tennis.

So then I told Krissy. 'Obviously they are here to frustrate us and it's working. Let's change it up a little bit maybe we can turn the tables.'
We had to admit whatever they were doing was working against us, if was a bitter pill to swallow considering I saw them as 'bad players'. It helps you to find solutions when you admit there 'is' a problem.

We started to close only to the service line and no closer. We knew they weren't coming up to volley (I think I saw the man hit only one/two the whole night and the lady never left the baseline). I notice the man had problems hitting a lob on low balls and his lobs usually landed short when he had to pick it up off the ground. I told Kristine, lets not hit it hard but keep it low to the dude and see what happens.

Boom, short lobs, the kind that you can put over the fence. We broke him again the 1st game of the second set. Every ball we hit when to him with slice, the funny thing is he started to get mad and his partner even madder.
I notice the lady didn't like to move off the baseline unless she had to, the male would cover the service court for her. I start to slice the ball low just short of the service line so she had to take some step forwards to hit under the ball. She didn't like this either. As soon as I saw her coming up I took like 3 steps back from the service line. Again a short lob and an easy put away. However, most of the balls went to the guy low. He got frustrated and his partner that hadn't hit a ball in ages start to scream at him as the 2nd set wore on. The started to implode, it was nice to see, considering they were the ones who fed on others getting frustrated.

To make a long story short, we won the next two sets 6-2,6-3 pretty easily. It was a long match, over 2 1/2 hours but it was worth it. In the end, the good guys won but only because we didn't fall into the trap of getting frustrated and giving up. Or being stubborn and refusing to mix it up thinking my usual game is good enough! Always have a plan B.

Lastly, respect the pusher. If you don't you'll be sorry. You can only hit winners/drives off dead balls so long before you begin to miss and trust me that pusher can push back all day. Instead, be a little smarter, there's plenty of time during a match to observe what that player doesn't like. Even pushers have a weakness, find it out and exploit it. You might find the other guy start to implode rather then the other way around.

I hope this little tale encourages a few of you that have problems with pushers. Keep it cool, then you've got 75% of their strategy already beat.

Cheers,

Mike
 
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Ball Swatter

New User
I got back into tennis about a year ago after taking about 10 years off from the sport. Several times during matches over the last year I have played pushers, lost the match, and heading home furious and completely disturbed at how I could have lost to a player with such weak strokes.

I have recently learned how to approach the pusher and have made it my goal to beat pushers by playing the game I have for now and improve my game to the point where I can consistently rip winners off of the paceless shots and also out-strategize the pusher. I think the players a little more advanced than me can blow pushers off the court. The pusher that will end up improving my game, believe it or not.
 
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topspin_17

Guest
haha, that sounds like my grandfather! he played a tournament exactly like this with the best female at the club (he wasnt exactly the best male player at the club), and he just kept lobbing the ball back at the other players. the other players got really frustrated at him; my grandfather won!
 
wowv you should correct the spelling and save this and other stories like it and put it in a book this is just amazing.

Not just because you beat the pushers but the stratigie the pushers were using against you

i have read an article about how to beat a pusher
and the number one thing said don't be a pusher yourself because they are probably better at it

but it seems you were being a pusher yourself

i guess that shows that they weren't as solid with the pusher style they should have known not to get frustrated


and yes this did help i might try this stratigie against my cousin he gets mad really easy so lobbing the ball deep into the court might help me

i always thought all of them will just get shoved down my throat but if he makes some mistakes on overheads this might help me

i do have a short tangent you might fond interesting

my cousin has a bad temper he is a good tennis player but reminds me of John McEnroe i played him last week and broke him on the first game and he came to the net and started beating the net with his racquet

sometimes he runs to the back of the fence and starts kicking it

one time i was trying to be serious about the situation and tell him how unsportsman like it was but he was so shildish it was funny i tried to keep a strait face and i tell him many times he acts like a spoiled brat but it don't sink in

anyway if i find more stratigies against him to fristrate him i might eventually beat him in a match

he is at least a 0.5 ahead of my rating

he usually beats me 6-0 or 6-1 and he throws a fit because he lost that one game
 

Cruzer

Professional
Interesting story. One thing to be learned is that as dull and boring as lobbing is it can be very effective. Sometimes the lobber's opponents will figure out how to successfully win the match but a lot of times they don't.
 

ps60

Professional
it is not easy to lob successfully, esp in a double. If both team are good at that, it could be a 5 hrs match :D
 

Ball Swatter

New User
last night I played the pusher that beat me a couple weeks ago. Thanks in part to discussions on this site about pushers and how to beat them, I was successfull in beating the pusher. I was extremely frustrated last match, but during this match it was the pusher who was frustrated, thew his racquet, and lost his composure. I generally took my time and waited for the right moment to strike.

Especially helpful was the strategy of only rushing to about the service line when approaching the net. I hit boat-loads of mid-court overheads, many of which were winners.

Also helpful was hitting low balls to the pusher and varying the deep & short balls.
 
Hehehe how are u doing pushy?

How's the backhand training going?

I'm doing pretty well, although the backhand isn't. Your story about the warmups almost exactly duplicated my first match of the season. The guy was obviously underwhelmed with my game, caught my practice serves bare-handed (they move mighty slow) and, just in general, had a 'why don't we hurry this up so I can kick your @ss' attitude.

He dropped the first four games and started having a meltdown. We were the home team and he flipped the finger toward one of the guys cheering for me, and then went to his bag for a second racket; always a sure sign of desperation in my book. He lost in two sets without winning a game, and I was a little frightened he was going to try to crush my skull with his backup racket - one of the dangers of being a pusher.

Anyhow, my backhand still looks like I'm chipping a damn golf ball out of a bunker. Fortunately, there's still plenty of season left for improvement.
 

kevhen

Hall of Fame
Good stuff. Way to keep your cool and start playing smarter. Work on your overheads too so you can finish that way against constant lobbers, but low slices worked for you to give you easier overheads so good job in figuring out how to set yourself up. I might have thrown some dropshots on the lady's side if she was slow.

You also could have just played baseline doubles against them if your groundstrokes were so superior (level and half by your words). But you did make the winning adjustments so good thinking. Never underestimate your opponent or think bad things about that when they are beating you! If they are beating you then their must be a weakness in your game they are exploiting that you will need to adjust to or go back and work on.
 

DavaiMarat

Professional
I'm doing pretty well, although the backhand isn't. Your story about the warmups almost exactly duplicated my first match of the season. The guy was obviously underwhelmed with my game, caught my practice serves bare-handed (they move mighty slow) and, just in general, had a 'why don't we hurry this up so I can kick your @ss' attitude.

He dropped the first four games and started having a meltdown. We were the home team and he flipped the finger toward one of the guys cheering for me, and then went to his bag for a second racket; always a sure sign of desperation in my book. He lost in two sets without winning a game, and I was a little frightened he was going to try to crush my skull with his backup racket - one of the dangers of being a pusher.

Anyhow, my backhand still looks like I'm chipping a damn golf ball out of a bunker. Fortunately, there's still plenty of season left for improvement.

You know what I suggest. Take a look at these videos.

http://www.tennisteacher.com/index800x600.htm

I've been a instructor for 10 years and I happen upon this series a few months ago. It's totally revolutionized they way I teach tennis and I'm sure it will help your backhand.

BTW I'm not way affiliated with these guys in anyway but he'll demystify all the 'crap' you get in conventional lessons and bring everything back to the main things you should be focusing on like your hand and the ball and the follow thru.

I'm hope you take me advice on this. I bought the entire series. I find the people I teach accelerate very fast to the point it's probably costing me money. However, I don't teach professionally anymore so it doesn't matter.
(nice cushy office job for me)

Try it out it's the best 100 bucks I've spend on tennis instructional stuff ever.

Mike
 

DavaiMarat

Professional
Good stuff. Way to keep your cool and start playing smarter. Work on your overheads too so you can finish that way against constant lobbers, but low slices worked for you to give you easier overheads so good job in figuring out how to set yourself up. I might have thrown some dropshots on the lady's side if she was slow.

You also could have just played baseline doubles against them if your groundstrokes were so superior (level and half by your words). But you did make the winning adjustments so good thinking. Never underestimate your opponent or think bad things about that when they are beating you! If they are beating you then their must be a weakness in your game they are exploiting that you will need to adjust to or go back and work on.

Thanks for the advice. My overhead is usually very strong from mid court however from the baseline I lack the confidence to blast it and usually spin it in with placement. It's a part the game I'll have to work on.

Oddly enough, I hit a pretty heavy ball off both wings. What I found difficult was to hit hard with a floating ball. A ball that comes down almost perpendicular to the court. Back to the practice court.

Cheers,

Mike
 
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