Moaning and Grunting

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  1. TennsDog

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    Lol. I think we need to get you on (or possibly off) some medications. Whatever it is that gives you the urge to HEE-HAW.
     
  2. Bungalo Bill

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    I think you just dont have a good reason or comeback to offset the people that are against it. You want us to accept you little antics on the court. You want us to "bend" the rules so we have to hear the idiotic noises and screams. Quit beating around the bush.

    I don't give a damn what you think. You still have a lot to learn. I don't agree with that guys post at all.
     
  3. TennsDog

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    Are you still convinced that I'm a "screamer" and make sounds that annoy my opponents during points? I'm not in favor of bending any rules. I have yet to comment on rules as they exist at this point.
     
  4. Bungalo Bill

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    Announcer #1: (BB scrambling in a long crosscourt rally) "There he is ol' BB punishing ball after ball. But I got to ask you fellows, he does have a unique way of letting out his breath doesn't he?"

    Announcer #2: (BB still scrambling) "Yeah, he learned that when he was young. He noticed that when he was young he got a huge boost of energy when he belted a big HEE-HAW, so it stuck with BB and look at him go!"

    Announcer #1: "Oh my, it looks like BB has the sitter he has been waiting for, here he comes for the big putaway."

    BB: BB yells, "HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW! (and throws a big fist pump towards his opponent)."

    Announcer #2: "Holy Cow what a shot! Oh no, the other player is pissed. He is going over to the ref and I think he is going to complain. It looks like BB is still HEE-HAWING right in his ear. Oh no, they are fighting, BB is still HEE-HAWing on every blow...wow what power!"
     
  5. Frodo Baggins

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    [​IMG]Could You guy's plzz be Quite!!! Shhhhh Or you could wake up the Nazguls and wraiths!!! And bill your grunt consider a turn on??Lets see>Sorry I'm not into Mating calls lol ;)
     
  6. Bungalo Bill

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    Frodo is a wimp and I quote "I can't do this Sam." He should have knocked out Smeegel when he had the chance.
     
  7. rasajadad

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    Too funny! (Unghhh!)
     
  8. papa

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    Interesting - so your opinions on this particular situation are based on what, civil law? I mean really, there might be many things one can do in their backyard that simply aren't acceptable on the tennis court. The rules are the glue that keeps all players using "acceptable" behavior as they play the game. The reason rules (in part) are necessary is to prevent "unacceptable" behavior.
     
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    Heheheheheheheheh..now that's funny..er..excuse me, I meant Heeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry
     
  10. Melissa

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    ~GiGGle~
     
  11. TennsDog

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    I don't understand what you're getting at with this post.
     
  12. papa

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    Your post implied that your opinions on this moan/groan/screech thing was not based on the "rules" - perhaps I misunderstood. You said something to the effect that "I have yet to comment on the rules as they exist at this point". I took that to mean that your replys were not based on rules/code but rather on what :rights" we have in a free country.

    I know of situations, one in particular, where "one" player has adopted the screech method and although it might be ok for him, what about players on the other ten courts. So we basically have up to 43 other players having to accomodate 1 because he has found it to be a distracting factor which helps him. This thing has gotten way out of hand and the USTA has to make a distinction between a "grunt" and a player "screeching". I'd say we should resort to the dictionary which spells it out nicely.
     
  13. ramseszerg

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    BB, i dont know why u shouldnt agree with me, because i was explaining why pros do it and if it helps them play better. I wasnt saying if grunting was acceptable or not.

    It is interesting to think about whether players like sharapova, venus, and nadal will drop in ranking and in greatness if grunting was banned. I was thinking that an opponent should be able to say either through the umpire or directly to te player when grunting becomes a hindrance. A downside to this is that mcenroe style players will use it to manipulate the match, but then there are plenty of other things one could do.. idealistically, it would be like telling your neighbor to turn the music down a little, and idealistically ur neighbor will say no problem.
     
  14. ilovecarlos

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    Maybe we need to differentiate between grunting (a slight noise made while exerting energy and exhaling) and shrieking. I think we all can agree that the "noise" Sharapova makes is certainly not grunting but is shrieking...probably close to 100 decibels. Shrieking is not a natural noise, it's learned behavior, rude and has no place on a tennis court. Anyone have a problem with that statement?
     
  15. Mattle

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    Ye, Have you seen Mario Ancic? you can hear he breaths more in an out in the shot, to keep the "balance" and to get a better performance. But it's controlled: It's breathing, not yelling.
     
  16. Bungalo Bill

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    I didn't agree with you because you were not clear about your position. I do not agree in the way people are learning or thinking they need to do this to play better. I think Federer proves to all that it is unecessary as well as a host of other great players. I did agree with you that it is something learned and people simply do not say anything eventually allowing the player to believe it really does help them. I simply don't think it does.

    That would be fine with me. There are always setbacks when changes take place. However, like anything else, it will regroup, become "uncool", and players will find they never needed to to that to begin with.

    Absolutely. If the officials aren't inforcing it, the players need to. If the person grunting starts drooping their shoulders and acting like a spoiled kid because they can't play unless they scream, grunt unusually loud, etc. - c'ya.

    I hope so. I hope the Mac's in the world, after listening to unnecessary noise do confront it head on. That is why we have an official. There has to be balance. The Mac's in the world aren't always going to get their way. But in the case of Screamapova, I hope they slam her and getting her frickin trap to shut up. I actually hope she drops out of tennis. I can't stand the brat.
     

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