More Arrogance from the Quitter Djokovic

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  1. Blue Drop

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    Dkokovic attacks 'spoiled' Brits
    "World number three Novak Djokovic has accused young British tennis players of lacking the hunger needed to succeed."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/7369812.stm

    At least the Brits have the 'hunger' to stay in matches and not run away crying like little babies (e.g., his "injury" default against Federer last weekend).

    I just can't believe this guy ...
     
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  2. Stchamps

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    Can't make accusations since his breathing condition may be more serious than you think.
     
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  3. The balls in your court.

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    No offense but when it comes to excuses, the joker is an amateur compared to the Fedexcuse train.
     
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  4. Blue Drop

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    At least he FINISHES his matches.
     
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    He said it was a "sore throat." When was the last time you heard of someone quitting for a sore throat? Oh right, never.
     
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    You are making something out of nothing.

    I don't see any arrogance here. He actually said some nice things about Murray, contrary to truly arrogant Federer's remarks about the same player.
     
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    This rather seems like a rant to me. Have no opinion on the topic, just the placement on these boards.
     
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    When was the last time you heard of someone with mono playing on without missing one tournament and also winning 5 set matches?! Oh right, never. Wait a minute ... the super human Federer!

     
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    Stop tying to stir up more trouble. There is enough of that already about Djokovic in plenty of other threads. Djokovic has won a grand slam beating some top players along the way. You don't get there without working your butt off.

    And Djokovic is not the first to make those criticisms about British tennis. I have heard it many times before from top people in the business. I went to high school with a bunch of them and based on those experiences I would come to the same conclusions.
     
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  10. edberg505

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    I'm not so sure it was arrogance on Federer's part, but more like a true statement. Seriously, can you say Murray improved? I honestly don't see anything different in his game. Murray got pounded by Djokovic last year, and he got pounded by Djokovic this year. To be honest, the worst thing he could have done was get rid of Brad Gilbert.
     
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    Maybe his fans are, but surely Federer himself isn't an excuse kinda guy. He barely needed any in the last 5 years.
     
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    Well, it may be true, but didn't Djokovic also say the truth about the state of British tennis? He also said some nice things as well there. Federer didn't when he was talking about Murray.
    So why is Djokovic being arrogant and Federer wasn't? Double standards?
     
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  13. zagor

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    I agree with Djokovic here.It's not like he exactly attacked the Brits,he simply told the truth IMO and he even said that he expects Murray to be top 5 very soon.
     
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    LOL, I never said Djokovic was being arrogant with regard to that article.
     
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    I wasn't talking about you saying Djokovic was arrogant, but the OP.
     
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  16. Netbudda

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    If I remember right when you breath, air goes through the larynx and the trachea, I imagine someone breathing really hard and taking air through the mouth could actually go through a lot of pain while having a sore throat, then you are also getting dehydrated and have to swallow food and liquids ( more pain ) so at one point I imagine the impact on your overall performance could be quite high. I for example have played matches with a cold and I just can't perform because I can't breath right and I get tired quickly.
     
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  17. spiritdragon

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    well, djokovic is just expressing his opinion and it is a rather valid one also.
     
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    Richard Gasquet. 2007 US Open.
     
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    This is a subject that often perplexes me. As much as I'd hate to side with Richard Williams, he was correct in observing that he has been able to create two more grand slam champions within his own family then the entire British Empire has been able to create in the better part of a century. What is with British tennis?
     
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  20. PROTENNIS63

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    Djoker wrote the book of excuses!
     
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    I don't think it's a case of arrogance as much as it is plain, blunt truth about the state of British tennis. But I do see how it can be said about him since he's a cocky dude and couldn't even lose respectably to Fed because his parents and his ego couldn't handle it. :)
     
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    Maybe Djokers classless parents can get a sore throat remedy endorsement and wear matching outfits of giant Nyquil bottles with holes cut out for their arms.

    Now that's a visual.
     
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    Did he create them, or were they just born talented?

    Great players cannot be created by governments at will.
     
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  24. Motherwasp

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    I don't think he meant anything by it.....he was merely saying that some of the youngsters lack the desire to make it. Both Henman and Murray have said exactly the same thing in the past.

    I think in 5-10 years we'll be in better stead...it takes a while for changes made at 'grass roots' to filter through.
     
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  25. spikyblackhair

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    That settles it; Compton > British Empire
     
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    The Soviet Union had a pretty good Olympic run - both the Summer and Winter games - and fared very well in other international competitions. If the US had not dropped its policy of racial segregation, the difference would have been even greater. With that being said, who knows how the Williams would have turned out if they didn't have a father to put a tennis racquet in their hand and make them use it. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have been nearly as good (assuming they would have played at all).
     
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  27. helloworld

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    Hey, i don't like Djokovic too, but this is some random **** you have here.
     
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  28. akv89

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    That is untrue. Federer did say that he felt that Murray was among the most talented in the new generation of players, even more so than Djokovic. I also thought that he was telling the truth about Murray's game not changing so much. Just to make things clear, I don't believe that Djokovic was arrogant in saying what he said.
     
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  29. BreakPoint

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    Because Federer is not a quitter like Djokovic is. You'd have to shoot him before he quits.

    Who's ever heard of a pro puking all over the court and can barely raise his arms winning a 5 set match? Oh, yeah, Sampras did just that!

    Who's ever heard of a pro winning all of his round robin matches with a sprained ankle and then almost coming back from 1-5 down in the 5th set of the final to almost win the tournament? Oh, yeah, Federer did just that at the '05 Master's Cup in Shanghai.

    Who's ever heard of a pro quitting with a sore throat? Oh, yeah, Djokovic did just that last week!

    BTW, Federer didn't play any matches at all for the entire month of February while he was recovering from his mono.
     
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  30. xargon

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    Bluedrop:

    "young British tennis players of lacking the hunger needed to succeed."

    Brits themselves must think the state of their tennis is bad since they wanted to "buy" Novak a couple of years ago.:)


    "He said it was a "sore throat." When was the last time you heard of someone quitting for a sore throat? Oh right, never."

    Tommy Hass retired in Indian Wells and Federer got a walk over..… he was very good the day before - and next day - Tommy had sinus trouble.
     
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  31. Motherwasp

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    I'm not sure if the LTA can account as all Brits.
     
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  32. coloskier

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    Yeah, two peas in a pod.
     
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  33. coloskier

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    A walkover is one thing, quitting in the middle of the match with probably only 3 or 4 games to go is another.
     
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    A walkover is acceptable. If you aren't ready to play, then don't come to play. You don't come to the match and run away all of a sudden with a sore throat. :mad:
     
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    Correct. The difference is Fed does finish the match.
     
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    I think the results of the Brits over the last decade pretty much backs that up-
     
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  37. superman1

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    When does Federer give excuses? Usually after a loss he says it's a pity, etc etc, but he rarely gives excuses even though we can plainly see that he was way off his game.

    Djokovic looked fine. He was just getting beat down, and he was embarrassed by it because he's deluded enough to think that he should be beating Federer every time. He knew mommy would have to eat her words about him being better than Federer, so he just exaggerated a mild condition.
     
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  38. Feña14

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    I wouldn't say it's that we are particularly "spoiled".

    It's just that tennis is a sport that we don't really care all that much about when we are young. I've always loved tennis but if you gave me the choice of playing tennis or football.. football would win every time.

    You have kids who play Cricket in the summer and then Football and Rugby in the winter.. What other Country has the same kind of thing? Australia!.. And look how they're struggling these days.

    The youngsters we have coming through in sports are all very good (Ashley Young, Agbonlahor, Stuart Broad, Cipriani etc...) They are all very talented and very driven so I wouldn't say it's about British kids being "spoilt", it's just very difficult for a sport like tennis to churn out fantastic players all the time when there are so many other sports to compete with.

    When the top athletes are focusing on football or rugby or cricket, a "2 week sport in the middle of summer" (which is what alot of Brits view tennis as) is clearly going to suffer.
     
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    I like Nadal more than Federer as my username indicates, but Federer makes few, if any, excuses. He is always straight-forward and honest in press conferences.

    Djokovic does often make excuses, but in relation to this article, I don't see anything wrong with what he is saying...certainly nothing that can be classified as 'arrogance.'
     
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    From the standpoint that he is an ELITE player and has come through with great talent and a lot of hard work, I respect his advice to the next generation and the LTA.Bit of a hypocrite, but irony like that is clearly lost on him and his family.THis whole outspoken, overconfident schtick is great, but only if you can back it up like McEnroe, Pat Cash and Serena once in a while.Nole, you've got a long way to go, kid.
    The good news is, you're young and the fans are very forgiving. See: Agassi, Andre [USA].
     
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    Tennis is a pretty unpopular sport in America, as well. Probably 90% of male athletes growing up play baseball, basketball, or American football. The other 10% who specialize in less popular sports are spread thin between tennis, hockey, soccer, track/cross country, lacrosse, etc.
     
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  42. The balls in your court.

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    Not really better. fed waits to see if he wins...and if he loses he always comes up with a lame excuse for losing. The Joker is a tad more believable as at least he doesnt finish. Bottom line...both are in bad taste.
     
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    Oh, give it a f'n break...
    Fed is a great player, but the greatest whiner when he loses and even coming up with the mono thing just proves it. Do you really believe that someone with mono can play a pro match...

    Also, whoever has heard of a tennis player that had to train in the country that fell apart under the worst conditions...while Fed was practicing his shots on the roof of a 7-star hotel... I think Novak (and Ana and Jelena and Ivo, Mario...) have had a fair share of things much worse than throwing up then playing the match that will stick with them for much longer time...

    Yes, what Novak did may not sound like the best way to end already lost match, but only he knows the real reasons behind it...
     
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  44. flyer

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    Why are you guys mad Andy Murray's mom said the basically the same thing.
     
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    sore throat? he was playing very well before the retirement.
    he just broke Fed and was just broken back.
     
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    what a hypocrite, i really can't believe this guy.
     
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    i sometimes get anxiety induced shallowness of breath. i really do think thats what he gets and he cannot control it. its almost like having an asthma attack.
     
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    I'm no fan of his some family's comments/his annoying injury time-outs/his "sore-throat" retirement against Federer but he makes some legitimate points about the dismal state of British tennis. I would say that some of you are over-reacting.
     
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    You don't believe he had mono? Did he look like his normal self on the court until a couple of tournaments ago? Give me a break.
     
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  50. BreakPoint

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    Do you believe someone can win 12 Grand Slams in 4 years and make it to like 25+ straight finals?

    If it's so unbeliveable, why would he make up that he had mono? :confused: He might as well say that he lost to Djokovic at the AO because he had a massive heart attack at the end of the 1st set. :roll:
     
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