More comfortable racket than Bab PureDrive GT?

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Herr_Rossi46, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. Herr_Rossi46

    Herr_Rossi46 New User

    Jul 27, 2010

    I usually play the Dunlop AG4D 200 16x19 and like it's precision, feel and comfort pretty much.
    But recently I played with a Babolat PureDrive GT and was stunned how easy it was to hit a heavy deep ball with lots of spin. I was able to hit a lot of winners from the baseline and had far less problems with defensive shots.
    Apparently, I had the impression that the Bab is pretty heavy on the arm and it lacks the feel of the Dunlop which made it a bit hard to hit drop shots.

    So now, I am looking for another alternative. Maybe you have some suggestions.

    Where is the difference between Pure Drive and Aero Pro Drive? Is the APD less harsh on the arm (had especially slight problems with the wrist)?

    Thanks in advance...

  2. scotus

    scotus Legend

    Jul 5, 2005
    Pure Drive and Aero Pro Drive are both harsh on the arm. Pure Drive is, I think, 2 points stiffer, so maybe a bit harsher.

    I have seen some who look for a little more arm comfort at the same power level as PD turn to Dunlop 500 Tour and Volkl Organix 8 315g. You ought to also look at the offerings from ProKennex. I am sure there are other alternatives that I can't think of at the moment.
  3. Ramon

    Ramon Hall of Fame

    Sep 4, 2011
    I have the APDGT, and I'm going to demo some more comfortable racquets to replace it. Here's the thread I started:

    I just ordered 4 demos from TW. The ones I'm getting are:

    Prince EXO3 Tour 100 16x18
    Pro Kennex Ki5
    Volkyl Organix 10 325g
    Pacific X Force Pro 16x20

    I should be getting them tonight. The feedback I've gotten from other posters is the Pro Kennex might be the closest in play to the APDGT. I played with my friend's EXO3 Tour 100 18x20, and I can easily see myself using it.
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2012
  4. Hi I'm Ray

    Hi I'm Ray Hall of Fame

    Feb 26, 2010
    The APDGT is noticeably more comfortable than the PDGT. Back when I demoed the APDGT and PDGT from TW they both came strung at the same tension with the same multi string. I couldn't play with the PDGT because it was way too harsh. The APDGT on the other hand felt comfortable for me. The flex rating numbers don't tell the whole story, there are several rackets that have flexible rating but feel quite stiff and vice versa. I have been using the APDGT with a soft poly main and syn gut cross usually @ 53lbs for about 1.5years and it has not given any problems. The Boris Becker DC Pro has a similar power level as the PDGT but is a very comfortable frame.

    Have you tried altering your string set up for more power yet?
  5. ghia

    ghia Rookie

    Jul 28, 2011

    I am a 200 16x19 user and ex pd user (it trashed my shoulder).

    Do you use the same string setup for the two racquets?

    All I can sugest is explore more strings at different tensions. Because this 200 "lite" feels unbelieveble with low tension polys. You will not find the magic dunlop feel in anything else:( by the way (sorry!)
    For me a 1.25 kirschbaum pro line 2 at 21/20 lkg (44/42 in lbs) or 20/19 (about 46/44 lbs), depending on temperature, is perfect.
    It not only increases the sweetspot but gives plenty of power and spin for easy winners so that I do not feel the need for a pd or any other more powerfull racquet!
  6. Limpinhitter

    Limpinhitter Legend

    Jun 10, 2010
    Try the PD+. Even though it's got the same stiffness rating as the PD, it is noticably more flexible in the shaft, and noticably more comfortable. The APD feels so different from the PD that if you like the PD, you may not like the APD at all.
  7. richsox

    richsox Rookie

    Feb 23, 2010
    Try VS Touch natural gut. I use it mine, at 57lbs.
  8. my76

    my76 New User

    Sep 28, 2009
    What you are looking for is a Prokennex Ki15 PSE or if that's too heavy then get a Ki15 and customize it to your preferred specs.I had the same type of experience with a Pure drive a couple of years ago, the Pure Drive destroyed my arm in no time and it wasn't until I found the Ki 15 that I found the same kind of playability in an arm friendly racket.The Ki5 will not give you that Pure drive type of power or spin but Ki15 definitely will.
  9. Herr_Rossi46

    Herr_Rossi46 New User

    Jul 27, 2010
    I play my Dunlop 200 Lite either with RPM Blast at 22/22kg or with Hybrid RPM Blast/RIP Control at 22/22. The PDs (borrowed two frames from a friend) were strung with Solinco Vanquish at 24/24 and Hybrid Lux Alu 24/ Solinco Vanquish 25.
    It was really nice and easy to play those rackets, so i really think about some testing in this direction.
    Maybe the APDGT is a possible choice since some people said it is not as harsh on the arm. But I am also very interested in Dunlop Bio 400 Tour spec wise. Does anyone have some comments about this racket?
  10. The Big Kahuna

    The Big Kahuna Semi-Pro

    Mar 31, 2010
    Southern California
    According to the GUTS AND GLORY website, the most comfortable and arm-friendly racquets for 2011 were:

    Head LM Radical OS
    Pacific X Feel Tour
    Head Microgel Radical OS
    Head YOUTEK Radical OS & Pro
    Volkl DNX 10 Mid
    ProKennex Redondo Mid & MP
    Avery A5 OS
    ProKennex Black Ace 93 & 98
    Donnay X Black 94
    Donnay X Blue 99
    Donnay XP Dual
    ProKennex Ki5
    ProKennex Heritage Type R
    Pacific X Force
    Pacific X Force Pro
    ProKennex Heritage Type C
    Prince EX03 Tour
  11. Recoveringhobo

    Recoveringhobo Rookie

    Aug 16, 2010
    Oakland, CA
    I also use an AG 4D 200 16x19 and have used other Babolats in the past (Pure Storm). You'll lose a lot of control and feel with the PD.

    I cannot emphasize enough what ghia said. The 200 16x19 plays best with a low tension poly. I personally get mine strung at 48 or 50 but I think I may try moving it down even farther. The racquet is extremely low powered in stock form so I think it needs a lower tension for power, though it also makes it feel plusher. Also, I've added 4 grams of lead to the racquet at 3 and 9 for stability and a larger sweet spot.

    Don't give up on the 200 16x19 - it's a wonderful stick. It definitely would have been more popular if it had a better paintjob in it's Biomimetic incarnation or if it had been sold with the rest of the Aerogel line. My only complaint is that its head size can feel a little small for 95 sq. inches. I wish that in their next series that they could up the size to 98 or even 100.
  12. Junkie74

    Junkie74 New User

    Jul 6, 2006
    San Antonio, Tx.
    Pacific X Fast ( coming soon ), it's the pure drive but arm friendly, very nice!
  13. suppawat

    suppawat Semi-Pro

    Aug 12, 2005
    In my opinion, the APD has more power and it will force you to hit spin to keep the ball in. If you like the power of Pure Drive but need extra cushion for your arm, try Donnay Formula 100
  14. dr325i

    dr325i Legend

    Nov 7, 2007
    Wilson Juice
  15. Herr_Rossi46

    Herr_Rossi46 New User

    Jul 27, 2010
    Thank you for your suggestions.
    Of course, I won't give up on my Dunlops and I will try them with even lower tension.
    But I think I will also try out some somewhat higher powered sticks like APD, Wilson Juice and Dunlop 400 Tour.
    I live in Denmark and it is somehow hard or even impossible to get Donnay rackets over here, so these are unfortunately off my list, even if I am very interested in them since they came out.
  16. Chyeaah

    Chyeaah Professional

    Sep 23, 2011
    the Pro Open plays like the PD/APD with abit more comfort.

    PD and APD will be way stiffer on your arm compared to the dunlop. If you can handle it add 2-4 grams to your racquet or string lower to get more power on your shots.
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2012

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