Moved: Why did Roddick fire Connors?

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  1. djsiva

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    I thought they were getting along just fine.
     
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  2. Jonnyf

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    Where did you hear this?
    Source? Link please??
    I just can't find this anywhere
     
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  3. PROTENNIS63

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    source please.
     
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  4. Moose Malloy

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    Whether its true or not, I always thought Jimmy would be the one to walk away, not Roddick.

    He really isn't a 'traditional' coach, doesn't need the money, doesn't like to travel much, etc.

    And I don't think he likes backing someone who can't win a big event as well, considering how insanely competitive he was.
     
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  5. drakulie

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    Ha, I called it right after his loss. I also agree with Moose that I felt Jimbo would just walk away.

    Anyway, I hope Roddick rehires Gilbert.
     
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    Moose, I know about connorse's 100+ titles and 1200+ wins in his career and I agree with you on that - he being competitive. But lets face it, it does not mean great player will be a great coach. he looked drunk for the most part of the Ao, I dont want to judge him, he is a good guy and I am sure about that but I dont know if his name can contribute to Arod's way back to the top. I really dont know if that road to the topis a 1% possibility right now but as I ssaid the great connors player does not equal great connnors coach.
     
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  7. bluegrasser

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    It's not Connors, the problem is Roddick - AR started off ok, moving closer to the baseline, hitting out more on the bkhnd & the results were there.,but soon he went back to his old ways & the rest is history.
     
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    Lol. I would love to see this article!
     
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    SoUrCe!!!?!?!??!
     
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  10. daddy

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    Please but please, who is on the avatar?

    I agree Arod is a stubbern sob but you know what,connors is not much of a coach either.
     
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  12. AM28143

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    Roddick will never fire Connors. Connors will dump Roddick.
     
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  13. Mick

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    a coach is not a miracle worker. Suppose you beat me in tennis today. I go and hire the best coach available. The next time we play, there is no guarantee that you won't beat me again.
     
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  14. mrDamien

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    Hahahahaha as predicted, both will going their own way at last.
     
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  15. NamRanger

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    Maybe Roddick will hire Gilbert again. Hopefully he does.
     
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  16. Is there a source on this aside from the above story?
     
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  17. forehand_dude

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    what language is that and what does it say?
     
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  18. baseliner87

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    well is he or is he not? fired that is.......
     
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  19. breakfast_of_champions

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    don't matter who roddicks coach is, roddick has to be able to execute the game plan. roddick just hasn't got a champions head. it was pathetic to watch roodick pushing his forehand on important points in his AO loss.
     
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  20. maverick66

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    forget gilbert go get tarik. tarik got him playing aggresive when he came up out of juniors where he was a pusher. tarik made him play on or inside the baseline and really use the serve. gilbert came around at the right time and might have tought him a few things but it was tarik who got him to the show.
     
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  21. my_forehand

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    Gilbert "belongs" to Britain, doesn't he?

    I've seen posts saying no-one can use him, aside from British players.
     
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  22. Djokovicfan4life

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    Why did Roddick fire Gilbert anyway? Wasn't he #1 when Brad was his coach? :confused:
     
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  23. IanRichardson

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    im not exactly sure what happened, but i know they dont speak to one another at all nowadays.
     
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  24. Grimjack

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    What the hell does "getting along" have to do with anything? Connors is supposed to be a coach, or at least a motivational mentor of some sort. He's not Roddick's "escort."

    Before Jimbo came on board, Roddick was a talented-but-struggling 2nd tier talent with a huge serve, a deteriorating ground game, and a tendency to come apart at the seams any time his opponent refused to be awe-struck by his serve.

    Today, he's a talented-but-struggling 2nd tier talent with a huge serve, a deteriorating ground game, and a tendency to come apart at the seams any time his opponent refuses to be awe-struck by his serve.

    "Getting along" or not, the partnership is paying zero in the way of tangible dividends for Roddick, and he'd have to be a world class shmuck to continue paying for no results. Doesn't matter whose fault it is -- if the greatest coach in the world isn't helping you to win more, then he's worthless to you as a coach.
     
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  25. Bent

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    The article is from a danish newspaper called "Politiken". But it was brought in all danish news papers (Wozniacki is danish) about a week ago.

    It only says, that Connors will help her up to the big tournaments. A few weeks a year.

    She will still be coached by her father and other danes.
     
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  26. CAM178

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    For the same reason that Agassi fired Gilbert: Gilbert's treatment of people. Gilbert had a sense of entitlement, from what I hear, when he was with these players. The rumor I heard (again, key word 'rumor') is that with Agassi, the end came for Gilbert with how Gilbert treated a hotel or restaurant employee. I guess Gilbert was a jerk to the employee of the establishment, in front of Agassi, and Agassi gave him a talking to afterwards. Supposedly Agassi said 'Don't you forget that the reason that you're getting this treatment is because of me. When you act that way, it is a poor reflection on me.'

    I can see Gilbert being this way. He is a no BS kind of guy, and he shoots straight, often to his detriment. But that's also the reason why he's been so successful as a coach. He cuts through the sh**, and doesn't sugar coat things. But as all top athletes have somewhat of an ego, you can see why an attitude like that would not last long. Thusly why he didn't last long with Roddick or Murray, as they both have incredibly large egos. I think he lasted longer with Agassi because Agassi is a very patient and nice guy, because he and Agassi were friends before coaching, and because this was Gilbert's first foray into coaching at a high level.

    I will say one thing for Gilbert: aside from his supposed attitude, the guy can work WONDERS for players. Look no further than the results: both of his guys that he stayed with for longer (Agassi & Roddick) both got to #1. Murray would have gotten higher if not for the wrist injury.

    Also, I have a gut feeling that someone highly ranked is going to pick up Gilbert and shoot to to the top, and I think it will happen soon. Regardless of Gilbert's supposed attitude, the guy gets excellent results. Period.
     
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  27. xanctus

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    Knowing from the internet domain .dk, I would assume it's dannish...from Denmark.
     
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    <Mod Mode> I moved this to O&E. If there's any substantiation of this rumor, I'll move it back. But the OP implies action was taken which nobody seems to be able to verify. </Mod Mode>

    - KK
     
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    This is interesting. I know it's just rumors but still...if Gilbert has that type of attitude and he treated Roddick like that, it's obvious he was only gonna last until Roddick became successful and got an ego of his own. I can see Roddick treating people badly as well.
     
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  30. DashaandSafin

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    Winning a GS, reaching no.1 and staying within the top 5 for most of his carrer is hardly second tier:rolleyes:
     
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    He should coach davydenko
     
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    ha ha... i like that.....:)
    a good teacher can't make a dumb student becomes a smart one...
     
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  33. Fee

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    Roddick DID NOT fire Connors.

    http://www.tennisnews.com/exclusive.php?pID=23555

    Q. Maybe your theory on having your coach on-site with you at matches? He wasn't there in San Jose. Some guys bring their coaches maybe more often. Just curious about that relationship, how that's been going?
    ANDY RODDICK: Well, Jimmy and I, I think it's going to be more preparation based this year. I knew when we started working together that Jimmy is not going to come out of retirement and travel 35 weeks a year. That's just not something that he's going to do.
    But at the same time, I want someone who I know, you know, when we're talking about how to progress to a semi or final of a Grand Slam know what they're talking about and have been there before.
    It's something that has to be thought about as far as what weeks we're going to work together and how they're going to be beneficial. You know, but I'd probably say it's gonna be more preparation based and more based on practice weeks this year.

    Q. I imagine you talk a lot on the phone. I think you mentioned that in San Jose last year.
    ANDY RODDICK: Yeah, we do.

    Q. Will he be in San Jose this year or not?
    ANDY RODDICK: I don't think so. I think I'm going to be with him probably the five days leading up to the tournament and then I'll probably come with my regular crew there.
    But, you know, he has the Tennis Channel on his TV. When I'm on TV, he watches it and we talk on the phone, kind of analyze matches as we would as if he was there.
     
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