< Mr. Pete Sampras Will Return? If So, When? >

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  1. TheOneAndOnly

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    Will Pete Sampras return?

    I just get a sense that he's wetting his feet with the seniors on the seniors tour, and once he and other players on the seniors tour that he is 10 heads and 10 shoulders above them all, they may push him off to the ATP circuit to play in the pro's once again.

    As long as he plays the 'minimum' numbers of tournaments required throughout the year, perhaps he can come back.

    Or make an exception. Allow him to just come back for Wimbledon. Or any other Grand Slams.

    Is this mere speculation or do you think this is actually within the realm of realistic possibilities?

    I think it's realistic .... to an extent of course.
     
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  2. Jim A

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    the only time you will see him playing with current ATP pros are at the exhibitions to line their pockets while providing some entertainment

    he's never been a guy who needed tennis all the time, he ate at the Waffle House in Tampa Palms every morning during his heyday, is no married to a beautiful actress and has the life most of us dream about, so why would he want to come back and travel, do the grind etc
     
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  3. THERAFA

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    Sampras was a tennis nerd and seemed like he needed tennis more than:
    Agassi
     
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    Why only Sampras? Cedric Pioline and Mac should come back as well, they've beaten Sampras on the senior tour.
    Damn...bring the whole gang back! Even those former greats in wheel chairs.
     
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    LOL Sampras would not come back...unless he thought he could improve on his 14 slams why put himself through that?

    I doubt he could beat Fed now or Nadal or Djoko although it would be great fun to watch!

    You are confusing what you would like to happen and what is actually happening!
     
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    Mac has beaten Sampras on the tour? Really, when? And was it a goof, or for real? Just can't see that, Mac must be playing really well for that to happen.
     
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    by the looks of it, using bandage in the knees at 22, actually the one in wheel chair will be the player praised in your signature...


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  9. Blade0324

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    Well Mac beat Pete in one of Pete's first attempts on the Champions tour. Pete will not come back to the ATP for many reasons, one of which is that the game has passed him by. His style of play would not be successful against many of the top players on the ATP today. Also he is simply too old to really be competetive.
     
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  10. THERAFA

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    He would only be competitive at Wimbledon, serve-volley still works there when you serve like:
    Pete
    Sampras
     
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    It is not happening stop with your nonsense.
     
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  12. TheOneAndOnly

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    that's what i'm saying. wimbledon.

    this is the gs that sampras can still win.... and it's the gs that he's most good at.

    wimbledon return. yes.
     
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  13. THERAFA

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    I hope Sampras does return to:
    Wimbledon
     
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  14. TheOneAndOnly

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    you see, it's just a matter of 'tweeking' the wimbledone grass..... like it was before .... if the people at wimby want sampras to come back to sw 19 (?) or 15(?).... whatever..... they should seriously consider making the grass to fit pete sampras' game....


    big. i mean big. this would be very big for tennis... and especially wimbledon
     
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    But just because Rafa can beat Federer at the current Wimbledon it doesn't mean Sampras can't beat Rafa, because don't forget Sampras' serve makes Federer's serve look like tasty fried:
    Chicken
     
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    Get real. Sampras would be lucky to get past the 1st round.

     
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    If Sampras was stupid enough to actually try, he'll be out of breath by the end of set 1 against Rafa. The guy will be 38 this year. You guys need a bucket load of reality!

     
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    if he thought he stood a chance, there is a 100% probability that he would ask for, and get, a wild card.

    but he won't. because he doesn't. and he knows it.
     
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    I agree Sampras can still do well at Wimbledon. Rafa won't be able to keep the rallies long against a true S&V legend.
     
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  20. TheOneAndOnly

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    that's right, THERAFA.

    good logic. just because nadal can beat federer doesn't mean he can beat sampras. in fact the entire opposite.

    sampras would love to play rafa over sampras.

    if you've seen some matches where nadal played s&v'ers, they gave him a very very tough time... and so would pete.

    pete would certainly quiet the naysayers, indeed.

    i just don't think djokovic or nadal would really have a CHANCE with sampras... i really don't.

    in terms of serves, fed's serve is lightning. it's lightning, because he places it so well. sampras' serve is both a fed and roddick combo - this DEVASTATES any player facing sampras.

    seriously, given that sampras 'ups' the ante at the senior level, and given that he starts to feel the waters through exhibition matches.... it's very possible that sampras can get a wild card into wimbledon.

    why not? to save face? 14 gs. no one can take that away from sampras.

    even if sampras tried to come back to tennis and fell flat on his face... so what? sampras still has 14 gs.

    what's the difference b/t favre coming back with tears still rolling down his eyes (just a joke!) vs. sampras coming back and trying to come back?

    none.

    the only thing that sampras would be preserving by not playing wimbledon is THE POSSIBILITY THAT HE'D LOSE AND THAT HE'D LOSE BAD.

    but is this not worth it? it's up to sampras.

    it's certainly up to sampras.

    sampras is not in the game of tennis for 'good looks' or 'reputation'. if he plays, then he won't be playing an exhibition, but a real match.

    with the toppling of federer and the unknown stability of nadal, and the unknown lower ranked players, mr. pete sampras has got a chance.

    coming back to tennis is not a full head-on atp tour.

    simply, it's about returning to wimbledon, getting a nice crack at that golden trophy once again.

    this would be big. really big. bigger than favre's return. bigger than jordan's prior return attempt with Washington DC.

    big. really big, i say.
     
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  21. Leublu tennis

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    Doesn't this belong in the former player section, at least until Sampras returns to active tennis. Right.
     
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  22. srinrajesh

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    well i dont think he would go beyond 2-3 rounds even if he gets a good draw as the speed of the grass has changed and the raquet technology and baseliners style would prove too much even for him.

    That said the top players would be afraid of playing him in the early rounds as they are vulnerable at that stage.
    Well its all speculation now.Let us wait and see if there's any chance.
     
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    There is one thing I have noticed. Many players have done EXO's with Sampras, but Nadal has not. Why is this?
     
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    Sampras is way too scared and Nadal has better to do, he will have lots of time to have fun with Sampras when he is older!
     
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  26. TheOneAndOnly

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    i think nadal and sampras are both scared to play each other.

    nadal could be more scared, though, i believe.
     
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    It would be interesting to see an old legend on the tour just to see how they fair. It would certainly address the 100's of assertions we find on the forum.
     
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    "I'd be licking my chops"I'm sure that's what Pistol said on playing Rafa.Still packs a big serve with that mallet he's using now.If he could run like the past I believe Nadal would be creamed.Pete will return, just a night in your dreams.
     
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  29. THERAFA

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    Rafa would beat Sampras on all surfaces but it is true that Sampras is serving at higher speeds now than he ever did during his career due to the:
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    Sampras should play Nadal on the Wimbledon center court 1 week after Wimbledon for title of the undisputed Wimbledon champion.
     
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    Ok we'll do that this year sounds:
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  32. TheOneAndOnly

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    Seriously. the only thing stopping sampras to play wimbledon again is: make the surface faster.

    then all others are meat.
     
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    I assume that you're joking.
     
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  34. TheOneAndOnly

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    no. i'm not joking. :<
     
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  35. JoshDragon

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    I don't think Sampras will comeback out of retirement, he knows he has no chance of another major. He couldn't even beat Hewitt in an exhibition match.

    If he does come back he will lose in the first or second round to some qualifier. Just like he did in 2002 at Wimbledon.
     
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  36. Blade0324

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    theoneandonly, you are completely delusional if you think Sampras could even get through one round at any tourney even Wimby. The grass ain't gettin any faster there for him to make a come back as that would be foolish of them to do. So let's change the grass on all the courts at a cost of $$$$$$$$$$$ huge money so some washed up former champ can come back and get his *** handed to him and in the process we'll alienate the other 127 in the main draw. He has no chance on this or any other grass...except for hippie grass that you must be smokin.

    This thread will now be about trains.
     
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  37. JoshDragon

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    Why would Nadal be afraid of playing an over-the-hill champion, who hasn't played a major in over 6 years?
     
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  38. supertrex

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    wonder if they will do Nadal vs Sampras exhibition.
     
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  39. TheOneAndOnly

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    it's just a matter of time on the nadal/sampras exhibition. when it happens, this is the real sizing up of the enemy for sampras. sampras can test how well nadal plays against him.

    no. sampras will not play nadal right now, because sampras is being merciful to nadal. seriously, if sampras wanted to whip nadal and bagel him, he probably could. there is NO player on tour that has sampras' game - none.

    let nadal enjoy his #1 streak. he's only just gotten out of the teenage years.

    sampras is too gracious to play nadal right now, because just like sampras previously said, sampras simply would lick his chops and bagel the likes of nadal.

    i think in an exhibition, if sampras played nadal, nadal really, truly would have no chance. the entire exhibition would be about saving face.

    nadal, or anyone (except maybe federer) hasn't really faced a flat-hitting serve and volleyer (play-the-baseline-game-too-ANYTIME) like Pete Sampras.

    you guys think i'm joking.

    no. i'm serious.

    Nadal needs to get into a groove, and the current ATP players, almost all of them ALLOW him to get into the groove with baseline play and the like.

    Sampras would have none of it. None.

    If it was a real match, a real fight, Sampras would have no mercy and would play a no holds barred against Nadal.

    don't you guys see it?

    just so that you know that what i am saying IS reasonable, i will also say that if sampras were to play federer, it would and could be a tough match, because of federer's VERSATILITY. and this versatility is what go sampras when he first played fed at wimbledon.

    with nadal, it's a totally different ball game. nadal is NOT a volleyer and cannot volley like federer.

    nadal is an animal. true. but nadal, i don't think, can handle a massive serve and volleyer like sampras.

    i think sampras can do it.

    ... if he pulls the trigger in the next year or 2.... but this is all sampras has got, in my opinion.

    after that, sampras can stay with the seniors and really know that he belongs there.

    for now, sampras is in limbo b/t the seniors and a possible temporary (and i mean "TEMPORARY") return to the ATP.
     
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  40. JoshDragon

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    TheOneAndOnly: You are new to the forums but making comments like this will cause some posters to unload on you.

    Let's just be honest about this. I won't go into the Nadal's prime vs Sampras's prime thing.

    Sampras would have several things going against him if he were to play Nadal:

    1. His age
    2. The slower court speed
    3. Having not played at the top of the game for the past 6 years. The senior circuit is much different than the ATP (Sampras even admitted this in an interview.)

    Nadal, really only has one thing going against him, his knees.

    Sampras wouldn't be able to beat Nadal from the baseline and also stated in an interview that if he was playing today he would try to attack the net as much as possible. However, S&V is not as effective on slower surfaces.

    If it were on a faster surface 12 years ago that would be different but there's no way Sampras would win their match.

    I agree Nadal, is not a good volleyer but he is exceptional from the baseline, so he doesn't really have to be a good volleyer.
     
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    Check your watch to see a sign of the time warp you are obviously living in. This is 2009, not 1994.
     
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    I am inclined to agree with JD. He has more present evidence and less wishful thinking on his side.
     
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    I thought Federer will be the Next Sampras style player, since he is using the same PS 85 when he started playing pro. he is a good S&V but not as strong.

    then he suddenly change playstyle more baseline with some S&V.

    but who knows. maybe thats hes comfort zone. I still believe he can be strong at the net.
     
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    What happened here, I though I said this post was now going to be about trains.
     
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    I never thought Federer would be in Sampras' league because Sampras has a far better 1st serve and then you look at Sampras' 2nd serve and it's so good it's like he's serving a 1st serve on a 2nd serve; Sampras is unlike any server in history:
    Incomparable
     
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    I hope the moderators ban trains 100% from this messageboard:
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    More likely that they will ban new members that have no clue what they are taking about and keep dragging up rediculous ideas about former players that are not even close to relevant today or in today's game.
     
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    I think if Sampras wanted to come back he could. He already knows exactly what it takes and we know (from his book) that Sampras, if he did come back, would expect to win. That makes him a danger for any player out there. When the current record holder of GS's expects to win, count on him winning. Now, my guess is that Pete is having fun playing where he's at. It's competitive enough that you can get that tennis "fix" but it's low key enough that it doesn't matter much beyond that match if you win or lose. He also has a wife that gave up a large part of her career time for him and I don't get the feeling he is one to let that sacrifice go unnoticed or unappreciated. I don't think we'll ever see Pete play another ATP tour event again.
     
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  49. JoshDragon

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    Exactly. All Sampras, would need to do is expect to win. That would put so much pressure on Nadal and Federer that they would be completely overwhelmed. No one can beat Sampras if he expects to win. :rolleyes:
     
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    If that second serve is nearly as good as his first, it's really astonishing how he was able to lose matches even in his prime.
     
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