Much ado about Rafael Nadal´s back injury

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Much ado about Rafael Nadal´s back injury

The debate on Nadal´s back injury has triggered mixed responses from tennis fans. There are sympathisers as well as skeptics.



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Two weeks have passed since the Australian Open final, but Nadal’s injury is still making headlines. In a way, the 2014 Australian Open was more of Nadal’s back injury than Wawrinka’s maiden Slam. Some headlines even read: Wawrinka defeats an ‘injured’ Nadal. Are we overdoing it?

The debate on Nadal’s back injury has triggered mixed responses from tennis fans. There are sympathisers as well as skeptics.

According to the World No. 1, the Australian Open final was "the worst hour and a half" he ever spent on a tennis court.

While addressing Spanish radio network COPE, he said: "I knew I had no chance of winning, but I had no intention of retiring. It was the worst hour and a half that I have spent on a tennis court."

No wonder that Nadal is still haunted by the Melbourne nightmare. No loss ever gets easier. But calling that his ‘worst ever’ experience of his 13-year professional career sounds nothing short of an excuse.

During the Aussie Open post match press conference, he said: “It wasn't easy to be in that situation. It hasn't been easy for me. I just tried to play a good match, to fight until the end, in order to respect the public, for my opponent and for myself. “

“Now it's not the time to talk about my injury. Today is Stan's day and we all have to congratulate him,” he then added.

The 27-year-old was touted the favourite to win the title at Melbourne. He had surrendered only a set on his road to the finals, despite playing with a blistered palm and taped fingers. Nadal’s stigmata-esque wound became one of the most talked about injuries of the year. It was of no surprise that he played amazingly well despite that; we all know that the gritty Spaniard’s resolution knows no limits.

Nadal is notorious for his stalling tactics, however great a player he is. When the 13-time Grand Slam winner encountered the zero Grand Slam guy, the latter wasn’t expected to pose much threat. Nadal looked perfectly fine in the first set which he lost to Wawrinka 6-3, at least not until after being broken in the second set by his rival. Nadal then took a medical timeout, before Wawrinka’s serve. A visibly agitated Wawrinka who clinched the second set with ease against a seemingly ‘weaker’ Nadal, soon lost his momentum and gave away the third set to Nadal.

Post match, Nadal told reporters that he felt discomfort in his back during the warmup. But during the first set, he showed no such sign of pain.

Was Nadal really in pain or was he just being a cry baby? Was it actually part of his gamesmanship? These questions have no obvious answers, and we can do nothing but speculate. However, there are quite a few instances from his past that feed our doubt.

Hamburg Masters Final 2008

Nadal won 7-5, 6-7 (3), 6-3.

Federer was leading 5-2 in the first set when Nadal calls for a timeout. After taking a full five minute break, Nadal thrashes Federer by winning the next five games to take the set, and eventually the match.

Wimbledon 2010 Third Round: Nadal vs. Petzschener
Nadal won 6-4 4-6 6-7 (5) 6-2 6-3.

German player Philipp Petzschener was leading two sets to one and was up 2-1 in the fourth when Nadal called for a trainer before Petzschner’s serve. Earlier while trailing 5-4 in the third, the Spaniard had called the trainer for the first time to receive treatment for his elbow injury. But this time, it was for his right knee. After the time-out, Nadal won the next straight five points to clinch the set 6-2.

In the crucial fifth set, the umpire gave Nadal an official warning for receiving coaching from his uncle Toni, much to his ire.

A doubtful Petzschner later said: "I thought he was moving great. I could only say that if I was injured like this once, I would be happy. But I don't know, maybe he had something. Maybe it was just a clever part to take a timeout there. I don't know.”


Wimbledon 2011 Round Four: Nadal vs. Del Potro
Nadal won 7-6, 3-6, 7-6, 6-4.

Nadal took a 9 minute injury time out for foot pain before the first set tie break against Juan Martin del Potro.

The trainer told Nadal that it could be a problem with the bone before he got his heel retaped. Del Potro then looked pretty agitated, perturbed enough to lose his focus and give away the set to his injured opponent. Incidentally, Nadal played amazingly well for a player with a ‘bone injury’; he had little problem in returning Del Potro’s shots and win in four sets.

Nadal’s gamesmanship

According to the rule, in a Grand Slam event, a player is allowed only 20 seconds between the points before he could serve; the ATP has a 25 second rule. Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic are known for violating these rules. When Nadal got penalised for the same at the Australian Open Round 4 match against Kei Nishikori, his coach and uncle Toni Nadal was quick to defend his boy. He opined that it would have been better if the umpires were selected from a group of professional players who know how to deal with such tensed situations. Toni didn’t just stop there, but came up with a strange observation that slowing down the rhythm of the match would be better for the spectators.

What Toni is missing here is the fact that such undue delays are unfair to the opponent. It sometimes halts the momentum of a player who has the lead. When players like Federer complain about the same, they have a point.

Whether or not Nadal had exaggerated his injury we don’t know for sure, but, there are allegations against the numero uno of tennis for such delaying tactics at crucial moments. Like his blistered palm, the back problem could also have been real, but lamenting over that loss again and again make little sense. He should stop crying over spilt milk.

The fact that a top seed and World No: 1 player has lost to a No: 8 seed who had never won a set against the former during their previous 12 encounters doesn’t mean that Wawrinka was lucky enough to have an ‘injured’ Nadal as opponent. At the end of the day, it’s the better player who wins. If Nadal really meant those words when he said it’s about Stan’s win, but not his own injury, he should stop justifying his loss. Sometimes, in tennis, even the greats do stumble.​

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i read that earlier in the day but couldnt be bothered posting on deaf ears...the players are onto him,the umpires are onto him and the crowds are onto him!!!!!!!happy days are here again.
 
Alright, who's going to raise their hands and own up to be the author(s) to this article? It was a very good summary of this section of the forums.
 

akind

Banned
From AO 2014 Final match recording:

Before he took mto, during his service game, he hit a big forehand and then he was grimacing and bending down in pain and touching his back.

Right after expressing that painful back pain, he served at 158 km/h.

After the mto treatment, he served at 125 km/h. (How come it became slower right after the mto treatment but not after he bent down grimacing in pain?)

In the final set, he was even able to serve at 182 km/h.


He conned and tricked the tennis world right in front of our eyes.

Gamesmanship at its worst form.
 
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to start with i dont write!..my alcohol addled fingers float across the keyboard searching and hoping for truth,justice and the tennis way of gentlemen.
 

reversef

Hall of Fame
Not even worth a mention. Do you think that some ******* writing this piece of ***** has any credibility? 23-10, we know it's painful for you.
 

akind

Banned
Not even worth a mention. Do you think that some ******* writing this piece of ***** has any credibility?

I see that the writer is Princy James.

This is her profile:

Princy James said:
About Me: I'm a journalist working for the Yahoo! India Editorial, and have an overall experience of 6 yrs in the media field; having handled both print and new media. It has been a while and quite a journey for me in the media world so far, where I handled topics ranging from hard news to sports - esp. football and tennis. Football has always been my passion and I'll be shifting to Barcelona this month end. I have decided to take a break from desk job and explore the heart of football city and its culture in real. I'm planning to work as a freelancer. My areas of interest include - soccer, tennis and travel.
Meanwhile please have a look at my blogger profile:
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Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Enough of this guys. It's getting ridiculous now. There's a 500 tournament in Rotterdam going on right now. Let's talk more about that. The AO is over. Let it go.

IDGAF about Nadal right now.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
From AO 2014 Final match recording:

Before he took mto, during his service game, he hit a big forehand and then he was grimacing and bending down in pain and touching his back.

Right after expressing that painful back pain, he served at 158 km/h.

After the mto treatment, he served at 125 km/h. (How come it became slower right after the mto treatment but not after he bent down grimacing in pain?)

In the final set, he was even able to serve at 182 km/h.


He conned and tricked the tennis world right in front of our eyes.

Gamesmanship at its worst form.

So in the face of the Stanimal Rafa purposefully handicapped his serve for most of the match to give the illusion that Stan only beat him because he was injured?

You do realize a set and break down isn't an insumountable lead or anything right? Nadal would have had his chances. Especially if he was serving well and taking care of his service games.

The serve speed going back up was clearly the meds starting to work.
 

akind

Banned
So in the face of the Stanimal Rafa purposefully handicapped his serve for most of the match to give the illusion that Stan only beat him because he was injured?

You do realize a set and break down isn't an insumountable lead or anything right? Nadal would have had his chances. Especially if he was serving well and taking care of his service games.

The serve speed going back up was clearly the meds starting to work.

The meds starting to work? Really? How come then in the final set Rafa didn't bother to run to a lot of Stan's shots? He was inconsistent in his injury pretense. Did the pain move from his serving muscles to his feet muscles all of the sudden so that he couldn't chase balls?
 

akind

Banned
Enough of this guys. It's getting ridiculous now. There's a 500 tournament in Rotterdam going on right now. Let's talk more about that. The AO is over. Let it go.

IDGAF about Nadal right now.

Is nadal playing there? Excusez moi, but I try to stick to the thread's topic.
 

Omega_7000

Legend
From AO 2014 Final match recording:

Before he took mto, during his service game, he hit a big forehand and then he was grimacing and bending down in pain and touching his back.

Right after expressing that painful back pain, he served at 158 km/h.

After the mto treatment, he served at 125 km/h. (How come it became slower right after the mto treatment but not after he bent down grimacing in pain?)

In the final set, he was even able to serve at 182 km/h.


He conned and tricked the tennis world right in front of our eyes.

Gamesmanship at its worst form.

Interesting..............
 

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
From AO 2014 Final match recording:

Before he took mto, during his service game, he hit a big forehand and then he was grimacing and bending down in pain and touching his back.

Right after expressing that painful back pain, he served at 158 km/h.

After the mto treatment, he served at 125 km/h. (How come it became slower right after the mto treatment but not after he bent down grimacing in pain?)

I had a similar discussion with someone sometime after the final and it turned out that AFTER Nadal grabbed his back and BEFORE the first MTO , Nadal's serve speed was close to normal, which I found intriguing. Which means his serve speed decreased after the MTO.

This is what makes me think those who say that his intent was just to take an MTO to cool Stan off, but had to then act injured due to the booing, may be on to something. Otherwise, it just doesn't add up.

Can someone who disagrees with this premise explain the anomaly stated in the quoted post ?
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Rafa's two minute back twinge must be the injury of the century if we are going to keep discussing it months later!

It sure beats Roger's back that has bother him for a decade.

And Rafa's stomach bug is also the Bug of the Century and Roger's mono pales in front of Rafa;s collosal bug. Rafa's bug will soon be coming out with it's own autobiography, A Bug's Life, which will be made into an animated adventure film.

/rant over :D
 

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
From AO 2014 Final match recording:

Before he took mto, during his service game, he hit a big forehand and then he was grimacing and bending down in pain and touching his back.

Right after expressing that painful back pain, he served at 158 km/h.

After the mto treatment, he served at 125 km/h. (How come it became slower right after the mto treatment but not after he bent down grimacing in pain?)

I had a similar discussion with someone sometime after the final and it turned out that AFTER Nadal grabbed his back and BEFORE the first MTO , Nadal's serve speed was close to normal, which I found intriguing. Which means his serve speed decreased after the MTO.

This is what makes me think those who say that his intent was just to take an MTO to cool Stan off, but had to then act injured due to the booing, may be on to something. Otherwise, it just doesn't add up.

Can someone who disagrees with this premise explain the anomaly stated in the quoted post ?

Bump. Can someone answer this as it would quell any doubts about the alleged 'fake injury'. Also there are those who claim he tweaked his back during the warm up. How come there was no trace of an injury during the first set either in his serve or any other aspect of his game ?
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I had a similar discussion with someone sometime after the final and it turned out that AFTER Nadal grabbed his back and BEFORE the first MTO , Nadal's serve speed was close to normal, which I found intriguing. Which means his serve speed decreased after the MTO.

This is what makes me think those who say that his intent was just to take an MTO to cool Stan off, but had to then act injured due to the booing, may be on to something. Otherwise, it just doesn't add up.

Can someone who disagrees with this premise explain the anomaly stated in the quoted post ?

Excellent facts. Clearly AO was a very fine, nuanced performance by the great actor Rafa.

Talking of addition, the time violations do add up quite a bit. Multiply all the time over 20 seconds, by the number of people watching and you'll get an idea of how much time Rafa really wasted. Multiply by the per capita income to see impact on world economy.
 
From AO 2014 Final match recording:

Before he took mto, during his service game, he hit a big forehand and then he was grimacing and bending down in pain and touching his back.

Right after expressing that painful back pain, he served at 158 km/h.

After the mto treatment, he served at 125 km/h. (How come it became slower right after the mto treatment but not after he bent down grimacing in pain?)

In the final set, he was even able to serve at 182 km/h.


He conned and tricked the tennis world right in front of our eyes.

Gamesmanship at its worst form.

Yeah, that's a great frickin' point. It really looked like he reacted to the booing and felt he had to make it look legitimate.
 

anantak2k

Semi-Pro
I still remember Roland Garros 2011 where Fed comes out on firing and had great momentum. He was playing some amazing tennis and started right where he left off from his match against Djokovic. Of course this does not mean that he would have won the match BUT the inevitable "FAKE INJURY TIMEOUT" happens... in order to break the opponents rhythm.
After the fake medical timeout of course Fed loses his rhythm and the rest is history.
From all the FO finals they have played, I do believe that Fed was at one of his best forms during that particular final in 2011 but ofcourse after the face medical timeout he goes away mentally as usual. Again that does not mean that he would have won but he would definitely have had a better shot.

It's all part of Nadal's tactics. He has done it to the point where even when he does have a LEGIT injury, its hard to believe and one still has to be skeptical about it. Nadal is the boy who cried wold too often and is well known for not following any rules of tennis... really don't know how he could ever win the sportsmanship award but whatever.

The sad part is that although a lot of people call him moonballer and whatnot, I really do enjoy watching his unique style of play. Unfortunately, every time he pulls out of of this BS stunts of gamesmanship, it turns me away from him (and I am sure there are others like me out there who may like his game but not his obvious gamesmanship).


However, there are quite a few instances from his past that feed our doubt.

Hamburg Masters Final 2008

Nadal won 7-5, 6-7 (3), 6-3.

Federer was leading 5-2 in the first set when Nadal calls for a timeout. After taking a full five minute break, Nadal thrashes Federer by winning the next five games to take the set, and eventually the match.

Wimbledon 2010 Third Round: Nadal vs. Petzschener
Nadal won 6-4 4-6 6-7 (5) 6-2 6-3.

German player Philipp Petzschener was leading two sets to one and was up 2-1 in the fourth when Nadal called for a trainer before Petzschner’s serve. Earlier while trailing 5-4 in the third, the Spaniard had called the trainer for the first time to receive treatment for his elbow injury. But this time, it was for his right knee. After the time-out, Nadal won the next straight five points to clinch the set 6-2.

In the crucial fifth set, the umpire gave Nadal an official warning for receiving coaching from his uncle Toni, much to his ire.

A doubtful Petzschner later said: "I thought he was moving great. I could only say that if I was injured like this once, I would be happy. But I don't know, maybe he had something. Maybe it was just a clever part to take a timeout there. I don't know.”


Wimbledon 2011 Round Four: Nadal vs. Del Potro
Nadal won 7-6, 3-6, 7-6, 6-4.

Nadal took a 9 minute injury time out for foot pain before the first set tie break against Juan Martin del Potro.

The trainer told Nadal that it could be a problem with the bone before he got his heel retaped. Del Potro then looked pretty agitated, perturbed enough to lose his focus and give away the set to his injured opponent. Incidentally, Nadal played amazingly well for a player with a ‘bone injury’; he had little problem in returning Del Potro’s shots and win in four sets.


Source : http://www.**************.org/Much-ado-about-Rafael-Nadals-back-injury-articolo16131.html
 

anantak2k

Semi-Pro
After the booing he had to bring out his acting skills to keep face. :twisted:


From AO 2014 Final match recording:

Before he took mto, during his service game, he hit a big forehand and then he was grimacing and bending down in pain and touching his back.

Right after expressing that painful back pain, he served at 158 km/h.

After the mto treatment, he served at 125 km/h. (How come it became slower right after the mto treatment but not after he bent down grimacing in pain?)

In the final set, he was even able to serve at 182 km/h.


He conned and tricked the tennis world right in front of our eyes.

Gamesmanship at its worst form.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Lol Nadal always blames injury when losing, time and time again.
This thread is yet another proof that Rafa bashers have generated false stories about him for years. Bashers' comments above are good examples of cheating readers by creating imaginary stories.

Rafa injured his back during the 2014 AO final and was hampered by the injury (facet syndrome) throughout the 2014 season. He underwent different treatments on his back during the year (2014), but they helped him feel better only for a few weeks. In October/November that year, he underwent stem cell treatment on the back that helped him more than other therapies he had received during the year, he didn't mention back problems until February 2021.

FuHCxInXgAAUIBb
 

LETitBE

Hall of Fame
This thread is yet another proof that Rafa bashers have generated false stories about him for years. Bashers' comments above are good examples of cheating readers by creating imaginary stories.

Rafa injured his back during the 2014 AO final and was hampered by the injury (facet syndrome) throughout the 2014 season. He underwent different treatments on his back during the year (2014), but they helped him feel better only for a few weeks. In October/November that year, he underwent stem cell treatment on the back that helped him more than other therapies he had received during the year, he didn't mention back problems until February 2021.

FuHCxInXgAAUIBb
he got a 3 million dollar contract for the k tape
 
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