Multi or syngut with poly like snap back?

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  1. nkjwlf

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    I know this may be a dumb question but im asking anyways. Does any multi or syngut have snapback like a poly. I just order a Six One 95S and am leery of killing my elbow with a poly. Are there any multis or synguts I could use or just for a soft poly? Any suggestions or comments please?
     
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  2. Vlad_C

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    You can try a hybrid with multi in the mains and poly crosses.
    There are some multifilament strings that are coated, and are slippery like a poly, at least until the top coating wears off. Head used to make a lot of those, I think Wilson might have a few as well.
    But I would not use them by themselves, only in a hybrid with poly.
     
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  3. burrowthebird

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    My personal preference are Multis and my go to string is Solinco's Vanquish. It's extremely comfortable at 55lbs in my Volkl PB10 Mid. Good comfort and pop. If you want a soft poly I would say Dunlop's Black Widow or Tourna's BHB7. Even at 57lbs there were comfy enough. If you have arm problem try 54ish lbs and go from there. Or... hybrid like the guy above said.
     
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  4. TennisCJC

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    3 sensible options in my view:

    1. all poly at lower tension - start with mains 48 lbs and crosses 46 lbs and adjust up or down in 2 lb increments from there. I would think +4 lbs up or down should be a sufficient range to find something you like.

    2. poly mains at 48 with syn gut cross at 48. Softer than all poly but likely still controllable due to poly mains.

    3. Use a 15G syn gut or multi at higher tensions 60/58 and adjust up or down in 2 lb increments as needed. Mark Woodward used a special thick gauge of gut in his very open string pattern in the 90s - it was like 14G gut that is hard to even find.
     
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  5. anubis

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    No multi or syn gut can produce as much spin as a poly, even with a lot of string movement. It's just the nature of the composition of the string.

    Either string full bed with a soft poly at around 50 lbs, or you could do a hybrid with poly in mains and nylon in crosses. 50 lbs for poly mains, and 54 lbs for crosses.
     
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    Technifibre TGV had a nice slippery coating which snapped back. Once past the coating though it acted like a typical multi/syn that needed straightening.
     
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  7. Lukhas

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    Nope, snap-back is for co-polys. Some multi/s-gut snap at the beginning, but it needs straightening afterwards. But you can try to put a multi in the crosses to soften your stringbed a bit.
     
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  8. loosegroove

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    I wonder how natural gut in the mains and poly crosses would be for you in the 95S. More expensive, might not have the best durability, or might be a little too powerful depending on level/style. But certainly will be more comfy and will have plenty of topspin/snapback.
     
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  9. nkjwlf

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    I have narrowed my string choice down, I am the OP. After research at TWU I have made the following conclusions based on stiffness, total loss and spin potential. I also made sure the strings had low coefficient of friction. Gamma Moto 16, Topspin Cyber Blue 16, Head Sonic Pro Edge 16, Wilson Ripspin 15, Kirsxhbaum Black Shark 16, Kirschbaum Pro Line II 1.30, Gamma Poly Z 16, Kirachbaum Helix 16, and Isospeed Pyramid 16. All the strings have stiffness under 260 lb/in. All the spin potential are 5.0 and above according to TWU. The total loss of tension ia not bad except for the last 4 strings mentioned. All the data was done at the medium string tension option. I need the larger gauge string due to the open pattern of the Wilson 95S. Any thoughta on those strings? I am starting out with the Wilson Ripspin 15. The Gamma Moto 16 looks mighty nice from a numbers standpoint.
     
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    i am suprised by the low tension loss of the gamma moto 16 - i have played the lime-coloured version of it and the string turned into a rocketlauncher after some 4hrs of play, strung in a 100sq.inch frame with 16mains at 46lbs. surprisingly the moto 17 in black held up pretty well and played a whole lot better in all the departments.

    the poly z i played in the thinner gauge and it was "horrific". the tension loss pattern is similar to synguts, going down with every stroke. this was one of the few strings that i would not play even if i'd get it for free. i doubt the 16ga has so very opposite playing characteristics.

    be aware of the fact that due to the very open pattern, tension loss can become a major issue in the case you are not going through the stringjobs in a timeframe of 4-6 hitting hours.
     
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  13. Bhairava

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    i can suggest you tour bite soft 17-16L at medium tension(52-53lbs) Will give you a decent confort and a superb spin.
     
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  14. robok9

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    Head rip control doesn't necessarily get the same snap back as polys, but it gets just as much spin. It is a very unique string with its great spin potential and comfort. Or I've heard rip control mains with poly crosses is still very comfortable with even better spin.
     
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  15. [d]ragon

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    According to TW's measurements,
    Gosen AK Control
    Gosen AK Power
    HEAD FXP Power
    I think these strings rated with 4 or higher on spin potential (in line with many polys)
     
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  16. nkjwlf

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    Unfortunately would those strings have any snapback like a poly?
     
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  17. [d]ragon

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    Since they're smooth strings, I would assume so
     
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  18. fgs

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    it is hard to have a nylon string snap back as a polyester string since the behaviour of the material is quite different. you can play around a little bit with tension to adjust but you cannot get nylon to behave like polyester under stress (impact).
     
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  19. Bud

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    If you spray down the stringbed with silicone spray after every hitting session, the strings will snap back. It takes a few times spraying before the strings get coated so be patient. Use smooth strings instead of textured strings as well.

    Also, strings the mains to at least 55# and the crosses 7-10 lbs less.

    I use this combo, currently. RPM crosses.
     
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