Multi that has Spin + Power + Control

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  1. alupower

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    Which Multi out there has Spin + Power + Control all together?
     
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  2. yonexRx32

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    Babolat Xcel Power
    Technifibre X-one Biphase
     
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  3. dParis

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    Was just posting in another thread about Isospeed Pro Classic. Might be the closest thing to gut under $10.
     
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  4. coloskier

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    Head RIP Control has 2 of the three. The 3rd is that it is low powered.
     
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  5. sansaephanh

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    hexy fiber. Great spin. Great Feel. Control is not related to string type. Low durability.
     
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  6. Rogael Naderer

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    How's durability? I'm currently using Addiction 1.30mm and am lacking in the spin dept.
     
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  7. Lavs

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    it's said Wilson Reaction is extremely good in Control and not bad in Power, plus holds tension very well and doesn't move at all. Not sure about spin.. but amount of spin does also depend on player technique. I am gonna give Reaction a try when outdoors season begins in April. And perhaps eventually will move to them from VS/Alu hybrid which is quite expensive (I really hope I will like Reaction in my PS Original 95)
     
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  8. mikeler

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    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=352048


    Addiction has pretty good spin for a multifilament string. If you want the best spin for a multi, you will need to try Head RIP Control or Dunlop Hexy Fiber.
     
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  9. Mockys2k

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    ^ Just read mikeler's string reviews.. great post.. as someone who is looking for some variety, that was useful information.
    I'm currently running tourna7 black 17 main / mantis comfort 16 cross @ 58lbs. Head IG Speed 16x19. I like the feel and the spin off the racquet but the durability of the mantis comfort isn't so great so i'm constantly snapping the crosses. Fortunately, I feel like the Tourna7s tension drops quite dramatically after a while so usually that's about the same time the crosses snap. I've had some arm issues so going with a slightly softer cross helps. If I wasn't hitting late on my backhand, that would probably help as well :)
     
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  10. Rogael Naderer

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    Thanks,

    I'll give it more time but I have noticed the drop from full poly, strange thing is I wanted to hit a flatter ball but miss the ridiculous heavy spin I could choose to go for in certain situations (defensive shots, passes etc.).

    Any good use for a multi/poly hybrid? I do love gut/poly.
     
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  11. KenC

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    First, I should say that greater gains in areas such as spin, power and control come from technique, not equipment. That being said...

    Usually power and control are diametrically opposed. Spin can be enhanced with strings, but only to a small degree. I tend to get the overall best combination by using lower powered multis at lower than usual tensions, like 52 or even 50 lbs. This gives a little more spin because of better ball pocketing, and gives more power due to the elasticity of multis, but the power isn't so overwhelming that significant control is lost. The slightly better control might also be because of better ball pocketing.

    Lower powered multis that seem to work for me are Mantis Comfort and XCel Premium. Rip Control is also an interesting string in this regard, I personally don't like the feel on the stringbed though.
     
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  12. mikeler

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    I don't use multi/poly because that will break too fast for me. I'm currently trying out gut/poly but my favorite setup is with poly in the mains and gut or a multi in the crosses.
     
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  13. Rogael Naderer

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    Thanks again.
     
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  14. Rogael Naderer

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    I may give Excel Premium a go, how's durability?

    I agree with your comment on the feel of Rip.
     
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  15. Triskadekaphilia

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    Does not exist. The more power the less control.
     
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  16. Nostradamus

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    What about that Mamba Microfiber multi ? I heard it was pretty good. I have a shipment on the way
     
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  17. redbirdone

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    My go-to string has become Prince Premier Attack. Plus it has a fourth characteristic you didn't mention - it's on the cheaper end of the spectrum for its performance ($10).
     
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  18. Will Wilson

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    Not Possible

    Isn't this kind of like trying to find a girlfriend who is blonde, large breasted and owns a liquor store?
     
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  19. t135

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    Where do you get Wilson Reaction?
     
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  20. Centerforward71

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    A string to excel at all three will be tough or impossible because what creates those characteristics is often opposing in physics. I am using tier one triumph and its pretty damn sweet. Spin is not best but strikes great balance between power and control IMHO. You can generate spin with technique when needed. I also love xone biphase but too expensive and I break it often.
     
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  21. The Big Kahuna

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    Top Multis based on more than 30 play tests on Stringforum (2012):

    Tecnifibre Competition 1.28*
    SuperString Viper V9 Terre Multi*
    Tecnifibre X-One Biphase ($17)
    WeissCANNON Explosiv! ($13.)
    MSV Technora 100 1.10*
    Signum Pro Micronite 1.27*
    Tecnifibre NRG2 17 ($15.)
    WeissCANNON 6Star Supercharged 1.30 ($12.)
    Kirschbaum Touch Multifibre 1.25 ($14.)
    Wilson NXT Tour 17 ($17.)

    * not available in the US.

    Personally, I like the WeissCANNON 6Star Supercharged 1.30 ($12.) for the best combination of power, spin, and control.
     
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  22. Mockys2k

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    HAHAHAHAHAHHAA
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  23. dParis

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    I'm not a string breaker and I've never tried Addiction so I'm not best resource to speak of Iso Pro Classic's relative durability. It is a 17 guage multi from which you can probably expect average durability and tension maintenance. For <$10 per set, I think the value is there for all but the most aggressive string breakers.

    Prince Premierqe Attack has been mentioned and it is another fine string for ten dollars per set.
     
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  24. Rogael Naderer

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    Yes that's another that stood out for me in Mikeler's thread, will certainly be giving that a test as well.
     
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  25. Lavs

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    in some German store. But I took last 200m reel and last 12m set from their stock. I am not sure if these strings are available anywhere else
     
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  26. fgs

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    wilson reaction is basically a discontinued string - you only get it from old stock that has not yet been sold!
     
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  27. Lavs

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    exactly. it was definitely old stock
     
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  28. DaveInBradenton

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    I believe that's called,.........NATURAL GUT.

    Oh wait, that's not a multi.

    The quest for the perfect non-gut string continues..........

    Best wishes,
    Dave
     
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  29. Rogael Naderer

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    You have a very strong point!
     
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    Prince Prelier LT
     
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  31. DaveInBradenton

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    It just seems a bit ironic that many players buy the latest frame for $179 and then go with a $10-15.00 string.

    The strings are what contacts the tennis ball.

    Is using natural gut akin to cheating?

    Best wishes,
    Dave
     
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  32. fgs

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    well, for some the math might be adding up from a different perspective:
    i break strings about every 6-8 hours of play and play on the average some 8 hrs a week (winter less but summer more). now please go figure out what the difference over a year in string costs would be (i string myself).
     
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  33. Rogael Naderer

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    For me my enemy is the British weather, gut is great but the worst string if you regularly play in wet or damp conditions.
     
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  34. Nostradamus

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    multi gets affected by weather too. but probably more by temperature changes than moisture.
     
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  35. mikeler

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    I have Prince Premiere Attack in 1 of my rackets right now. The only drawback is I can't seem to hit dropshots with it. The Wilson gut is nice on serves and smashes but I never could flatten out shots with it. Klip Legend felt like a multi to me, not worth the money.
     
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  36. DaveInBradenton

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    I think we can stipulate that the use of natural gut revolves around the cost, not the playing characteristics.

    However, would not the cost would be justified if the durability was sufficient?

    Perhaps a compromise could be made, using 15L or 16 gauge gut at lower tensions to improve acceptable durability.

    This certainly would be worth a try. If one could find a balance between durability versus cost, and be able enjoy the playability of NG.

    There are a lot of variables, such as playing style and frame stiffness.

    BTW, I think N-gut recently went up in price.

    Have fun,
    Dave
     
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  37. fgs

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    yes, the big question is playingstyle first and foremost. as i have a heavily topspinoriented game and play mostly on clay, not even 1.40mm gut could be reasonable. in my younger years i played full gut in the small wooden sticks with that incredibly dense stringpattern - lasted me usually a practice session (2hrs).
     
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  38. KenC

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    I used 16g XCel Premium in black for a month or so late last year. I usually broke them in 5-6 hours. The first 5 hours are great, and the last hour they played slightly dead, and then snap. It is very arm friendly, but I find 16g MCS black to be just as arm friendly and just as durable, if not more durable.
     
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    LOL... :)
     
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    Can she cook?
     
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  41. 2handsbothsides

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    Almost any premium multi plays very well for 4 to 6 hours, then its still usable but precision control and large sweet spot is reduced. After many play tests including multis and natural guts my go to string setup is a fresh Mamba Microfiber main and Forten Sweet natural color cross.

    Thanks to Mikeler for finding the Microfiber. But my hybrid actual plays better than a full bed of Microfiber in side by side comparisons. This combo does not need a break in period, gives a bit deeper pocket and holds tension longer than the full multi job. It also competes favorably against any of the $20 multi's.
     
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  42. t135

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    Would love to find string comparable to Wilson reaction 16. Can't understand why it was discontinued
     
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  43. Nostradamus

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    is Xcel premium more stiff or more soft than Xcel Power ?
     
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  44. KenC

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    I really don't know. The only time I tried XCel power was against X-1 Biphase and I thought it was maybe a little more comfortable and a little less powered, but honestly, they both played 90% identical in my hands. My guess is the difference between Power and Premium will be even less distinguishable. IOW, very soft feeling at impact.
     
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  45. anubis

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    My new favorite multi is Babolat Xcel Comfort. Gosh, its darned nice! Wonderful power and spin. Too bad its $20 per pack. Imma gonna see just how long it lasts.
     
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