Murray Camp Angry

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  1. DoubleDeuce

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    If TV viewers don't like to see boring baseline pushing play, the AO has to listen to them. It is a business at the end.
     
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    Would Federer have a tough match against Simon?
     
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    Night session is PRIME time, which fans want to see the star players. Not to say Murray isn't a star player, but he's playing under Roger's shadow. Lendl has to understand that his boy has to wait his turn. In the future perhaps Murray will be the main man and get schedule to play at PRIME time.
     
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    [QUTE=TMF;7148275]Night session is PRIME time, which fans want to see the star players. Not to say Murray isn't a star player, but he's playing under Roger's shadow. Lendl has to understand that his boy has to wait his turn. In the future perhaps Murray will be the main man and get schedule to play at PRIME time.[/QUOTE]

    Its not even that Murray isnt prime time, but who wants to see murray vs no name scrubs as a main event?
     
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    Of course, Simon just has to show up to beat Federer, even if he is unable to move.
     
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    I completely get where you're coming from and if the TD came out and said as much then it would be fair enough - but he didn't. He said that TV was only one factor and then went on to say he's been fair to all the players - but he clearly hasn't. Being the only member of the top 4 seeds not to have a night match on RLA is clearly a disadvantage over his main rivals (albeit a small one) - especially when ant semi and final will be played on RLA at night.
     
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    look at it this way, andrew could use the tan anyways.
     
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    I agree. But it's just too late to complain, Murray should've had some night match experience earlier but there's not much you can do now.

    Murray gets his way at Wimbledon, whereas Federer gets demoted to Court 1 sometimes so not all is lost for him.
     
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    As mentioned before, Murray is a day walker and doesn't tan.
     
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    I agree Murray just needs to suck it up - I can stll moan about it though :)


    Re your point in bold - not correct. Murray also gets demoted to ct 1 at Wimbledon - and why? So that all the contenders get some experience on centre.
     
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    Also, like many Scots, his standard colour is a kind of pale blue. Murray is actually sporting a Scottish tan - he has gone from light blue to very white.
     
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    so are they going to complain when they get/got this treatment in England ? (Olympic/Wimbledon ) STFU ...
     
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    Do they cycle these things? I can't remember if Murray had a higher than normal amount of night matches one year, because of the BBC having the rights to show his matches, and I seem to remember Fed having a fair number of day matches last year or the year before.

    Can't really remember to be honest, the last few years sort of blended into each other :?
     
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    well he could use the pink.
     
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    but we all know it's also because he's a scott. ;) in all seriousness i'm surprised the split between day/night matches between the top 4 haven't been more equal. it isn't as if federer wouldn't have benefitted from playing tomic in the heat. quicker conditions may have suited him more.
     
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    The only who got an edge is Djokovic. He has played competitive matches in both day and night sessions. And even then, its a "non-issue".

    Wawrinka played all day time matches and showed up on-fire against Djokovic in a night session match. So, I have no sympathy towards the Murray camp for this issue.

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    There is a reason why Murray and Ferrer play during the day - they are boring to watch. I won't watch either of them play unless they are up against Federer.
     
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    Boy, that's a rather harsh analysis of Murray's game. I'd hardly call what Murray does boring or pushing - we should all push so well. It's about popularity of the player, not the nature of his game; Fed is the darling that everyone wants to see - he's the grand champion in the last few years of his career. Did the US Open do the same thing for Connors back in '92 or whatever because everyone loved his style of play??? No, they did it becauase people wanted to see him play, and they wanted to give him an advantage. So they did.
     
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    Cry some moar Murray and then come and poast on TW about it. :lol:

    There really wasn't any exciting matchups in his draw.
     
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    but tomic is a prime time playeer he played mayer
     
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    Murray had 2 night matches at the USO last year so what's the problem with the AO?

    If they carry on like this, he might begin to feel he's not as welcome in Melbourne as he is in New York. Everyone knows he plays his best in the night matches.

    :twisted:
     
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    Non of Murray's matches have seemed interesting on paper that's the main reason, plus Federer is Federer. He's earned his primetime slots I'd say.
     
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    Look, no one outside of GB is going to be watching any of Murray's matches. Lendl is just a dick as he's always been. When Murray's #1 in the world and people still don't watch him they'll still be crying as to why that's the case. Face it, a ton of people didn't watch the long ass Nole/Murray match last year, they didn't particularly care of Nole/Nadal matches either, so what's the problem? The fans will want to watch them, but the largest group of prime time investors (i.e. the people who pay for tickets and pay for cable to be glued to the TVs at home) want to see Fed play. He's the most popular and that's all there is. The guy could be 3rd in the world and people still show up to watch him play. Bottom line is this... if given the choice, people would rather watch Fed matches. If they can't because he's not playing and they need to get their tennis fix, they'll watch the next popular match.
     
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    i watch the murray matches the thing is australia has a terribad timezone for me
     
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    the nole murray match was 100x better than the fedal one
     
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    not always. a few finals/ semifinals come to mind where he's poorly at night and well during the day.
     
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    I think it has something to do with his draw. Night matches usually feature a top player vs a homeboy or a top player vs a solid/other top player. Murray has played journeymen from the beginning.
     
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    Finally, a logical explanation for the Scottish flag color scheme!
     
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    No it wasn't Get real! Also Tomic is Australian. Of course he gets night matches in Australia. That's different.
     
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    People are confusing style of play with and whether or not it is boring or exciting. Murray's game is not exciting nor compelling to watch. Not because he is a defensive player. Nadal and Djokovic are primarily defensive, but are exciting to watch. Murray plays his style well no doubt. He is a smart player and is very effective. His results speak for themselves. However, how he plays is not exciting to the vast majority of ticket goers or viewers.
     
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    nadal and djokovic wait aggressively, while murray likes to wait passively. 8)
     
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    What's the point of moaning? Who would want to see Murray-Chardy when you get Federer-Tsonga? That's what you get for a joke draw.
     
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    Ya, what about the Nole/Nedal one? Ya, I didn't watch it because I didn't want to fall into a comma accidentally. :lol:
     
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    Murray over Fed any day of any week. I also wouldn't assume that everyone finds Murray's game boring. I know a lot of people who don't. Bad taste isn't mandatory.

    A lot of people just like Fed because he won a lot of trophies, not necessarily because they love his Tennis. You can bet your ass that if he hadn't won slams 'no one' would care.

    As for the argument, I understand why Fed got the night matches over Murray. If I was responsible for the schedule I would've done the same as none of the match-ups were interesting. And considering they all resulted in straight-set-routine-wins that was a good assumption to make.
     
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    Fed has been hogging RLA for the last 8 years. How dare he play such beautiful tennis that makes people buy tickets to see him! The outrage!
     
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    RLA has just as many seeds during the day. :)
     
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    Agreed. THis is the reason. There are many who love to see Murray play and I am one of those. He is a natural talent and not just a power basher who comes to the net and gets confused what to do next. But it is his opponents that were not well known. Murray vs Delpo would have been main event for today even if Fed played anyone else. Just a guess.
     
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    Sorry but Fed/Tsonga will always be a bigger marquee matchup then anything outside of of Nadal/Djokovic.
     
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    Wow, you went from lecturing people about making assumptions to making one yourself in one sentence! Perhaps you should send a picture of yourself to Webster's for illustrating the word 'hypocrisy'

    Here. Let me tell you what I think you can bet your ass on. 99% of the people who call themselves fans of the tennis player Andy Murray on this forum, wouldn't care for his a$s if he weren't from their neck of the woods. No one would be so upset about him not getting a night match if we were talking about Andriy Murrovich from Uzbekistan and not Andy Murray from Scotland - the player being the same.
     
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    Most people would rather watch Fed practice than Muzza play. That's a simple fact everyone knows. Fed is more popular than the other player no matter where they play, even in front of someone's home crowd they will cheer for Fed just as much and usually more.

    And Muzza should really shut up and thank the officials for his cakewalk draw instead of opening his big mouth.
     
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    as well as not being box office, murray swears loudly sometimes..

    maybe the organizers dont want rude words on at primetime also.
     
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    Me saying that a lot of people, not all (which would be a generalisation) just like Fed for his success and not necessarily his game, is true. I'm not even talking about the people who post here, but the bigger masses. Sure, they will tell you that they love his game when asked, but it's not rocket science that highly successful athletes always have more fans than maybe the odd talented headcase.

    And just for the record, I'm not British.
     
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    Your spelling says otherwise. :)
     
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    He didn't even say anything.

    As for the draw thing, did the officials initiate for DelPo to lose? Ridiculous.
     
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    I'm from Germany. :)
     
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    And you write proper English ;) None of that American rubbish.:)
     
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    It comes with being a misunderstood Andy fan. ;)
     
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