":Murray:"I think most of the crowd wants Roger to win."

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  1. peRFection

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    he said it from the heart. :)


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  2. Totai

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    That's like telling me that water is wet.
     
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  3. Rozroz

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    link, please?
     
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  4. peRFection

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    court interview during the ceremony
     
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  5. tennis_pro

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    Duh.

    10 duh's
     
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  6. Agassifan

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    Fed is the most popular player in tennis since Agassi
     
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    Dubai is a pretty even crowd. I remember last year they were vociferously backing Djokovic in the final. This year, Murray had a large contingent of support, but Fed definitely had his as well. I'd say it was 55/45 Fed in the final this year.
     
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    He doesn't always seem like the happiest guy on the court but Murray does have a good sense of humour :)
     
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  9. Rock Strongo

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    Thanks for the spoiler.
     
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    It is no spoiler, not even implicitly and why do you come here If you dont know The result yet?
     
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  11. Hood_Man

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    We have got the Pro Match Results section for these things.

    Plus I'm not sure "I think most of the crowd wants Roger to win" is something Murray is likely to say to the umpire on a changeover :)
     
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    No one posted any final score or who won the match.

    The match will replay on The Tennis Channel, so you could have wait before visiting this board.
     
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  13. Gonzalito17

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    Murray is right, even if he played Roger in the Wilmbedon final fan support would be split. Also think maybe close to half of Spanish fans would rather see Fed beat Rafa. Fed is beloved everywhere. Greatest champion in tennis history.
     
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  14. TennisLovaLova

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    I think most of the crowd hated to witness childish reactions from murray when he makes ue.
    It's disappointing and weak
     
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    Andy was honest. it's as simple as that. yes, Roger is still a tennis star. this just reminded me of the French crowd last year at RG. I hated it.
     
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    Je suis un Su├ędois:p Also, looking from that pic I can ascertain what happened.
     
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    Real test is coming up in another desert. That is what counts. You will see a different Djoker there.
     
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  18. Shaolin

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    Pretty understandable considering Fed plays better tennis and has a better personality.
     
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    The Cincinnati Desert?
     
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    I'm hoping that Andy M doesn't "roll over" for Roger.
     
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  21. Towser83

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    Well I would expect so. Federer is a tennis legend, and will probably be the most recogised name in the sport along with Laver and Sampras. Nadal is pretty much a legend, certainly all time great. Djokovic is a tennis great in the making. Murray is a current slam contender at best. He is a great player but he's gonna have to win multiple slams just to reach the Djokovic level of greatness which is still some way behind Federer and Nadal. People generally support the guys who achieve at the very highest level. It's just like the biggest movie stars and the biggest rockstars will have more demand and attention than the good current guys who have not become legends yet.
     
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    Federer is going to be like Pele, Jordan, Gretzky or Ali. People will use his name without mentioning the sport itself, so obvious it will be.
     
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    Not sure he will be as ubiquitous as those guys but he'll be close.
     
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    Federer has already passed Gretzky. Outside of North America and a few select countries Gretzky is not even in the top 20 of best regarded athletes. Jordan, yes. Pele, yes. Michael Schumacher, yes. - Federer is also fortunate to be in this era where social media and media consumption in general has shot through the roof. Legendary antics/skills have so much more chance of being seen by millions of people than even stuff as recently as 2005.

    True legend is when you become known outside of people who are remotely interested in the sport the person played. Federer has achieved that, even more than Sampras ever did imo. So many people know and acknowledge him as a legend haven't a clue about sport, let alone tennis.
     
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    I don't think jordan would be known elsewhere if he didn't wear Nike.

    Basketball is not that big in a lot of places and he wouldn't be on tv.

    Schuhmacher, a car, tv - he's known everywhere
     
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    Watching it seemed maybe 95/5 in favor of Federer.

     
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    In Australia, hardly anyone cares for basketball, but everyone knows what a legend Jordan is.
     
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    Yeah, Schumy is on that list of immortals too.

    He was getting his ass kicked on regular basis, being around #4, until Mansell and Prost retired and Senna died. And then he got his weak era to dominate.
     
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    Who is Gretzky?
     
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    Wayne Gretzky a Hockey Player. Probably the GOAT of Hockey.
     
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  32. monfed

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    Pele - Umm NO. Football is 10x more popular than tennis will ever be and Pele is football's favourite son(although I think Zidane trumps him but that's another matter).

    The rest is fairly OK.


    Yup.

    I'd say(in that order) -

    Ali
    Pele
    Federer.

    Ali is regarded by most as the greatest sportsman in history.
     
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  33. sbengte

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    In fact it sounds like something Murray would have said apologizing to the crowd after winning the title , so no spoiler :)
     
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    Oh, I didn't mean Federer had passed Pele... no way. I meant that he, Jordan and Schumacher were in the top 20 globally but Gretzky wasn't.
     
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    Oh ok, my mistake.
     
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    Pele was very special. I really don't think we should compare Pele with Rog. I used to watch football at that time and Pele was simply bloody amazing. I still think the best player that has ever played the game. Pele was a genious.
     
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    The only thing is that even in his days boxing was fixed
     
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    Fed is the most popular player in tennis since tennis was invented. {fixed}
     
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    It wouldn't have mattered what athletic company he wore, he had his own logo... Anytime you get your own logo, you know you've hit the big time. Doesn't matter if it was through Nike, Adidas, Reebok, etc...

    Although it does seem like Nike is one of the only athletic companies to give athletes their own logos - Jordan, Federer, Nadal.
     
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    I wish I could say the same for you.

    :lol:
     
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    Have to agree to that, I had to google Gretzky to know which sport you were talking about (I would have said ice hockey if asked, but wouldn't have been surprised if he'd been a baseball or football player, that's how "well" I know him...) ;)
     
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    I'll be honest - living in Australia, I have brought up Gretzky and people look at me funny, he isn't a world-wide name.

    Federer is extremely synonymous with the sport of Tennis, but I don't think he reaches the heights of Ali, Pele or Jordan. I don't think anybody argues with the first two, but people saying Jordan isn't well known should just look at how heavily referenced in pop culture he is, mostly in music - but he also is the name of a brand which has athletic apparel which has spanned out to multiple sports (not just basketball), not to mention being in quite a popular and well known (if terrible) film in Space Jam.
     
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    Ali is mostly regarded by people who know next to nothing about his out-of-ring exploits. He was mostly a despicable human being and secondary to that a very good boxer. Difference between Jordan, Federer and Ali is that the former 2 were considered the best in the world, while Ali would struggle to make the top 5. Has humanity had decades to become accustomed to the legendary status of Federer? Not really, so you cannot fault him for that. In terms of helping his sport develop he is head and shoulders above anyone.
     
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    I have to agree.
     
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    Zidane trumps Pele? Funny, he's probably not even one of the top 5 footballers in history.
     
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    I don't know much about Boxing so I'll take your word for what you're saying - but I think the reason why Ali transcends the sport is again because of his role in Pop Culture. Couldn't tell you the first thing about boxing, but his fights with Frazier are stuff which even I know about, and to a lesser extent the film that was made about a decade ago, it helps to make him more well known.

    I'd also probably say Tiger Woods is more well known than Federer - or at least on par (pun intended) with him, whether or not that is good or bad publicity at the moment, there was a time where he transcended the sport of Golf.
     
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    Are you serious? Ali is considered the greatest boxer, and sportsman, by a mile and that's after spending 3 years of his absolute prime in prison as a conscientious objector against the very ugly and dubious Vietnam War. Knock 3 years off Federer's prime and see how well he fares?
    Ali with that handicap is still considered the greatest boxer. No heavyweight has ever had that speed, coordination, movement and skill.
    You ever watched Ali in his prime? You ever seen Sonny Liston and how Ali destroyed and toyed with him to win the title.
    Sonny Liston was like a bigger version of Mike Tyson except better and more vicious, so dominant and brutal before Ali, he was thought to be unbeatable.
    Regarding being a despicable human being, you better ask the billions of people Ali inspired and influenced over the years. The most famous and popular man on the planet, not just sportsman, for well over a decade.
    A man who had everything and gave it up for his religious and moral beliefs (even went to jail) then had to rebuild it all and became the most famous man and sportsman a second time.
    Was never quite the same boxer he was in the sixties but still good enough to beat the best. And one of the bravest sportsmen fighting 10 rounds against Frazier with a broken jaw! Imagine. And later beating another, considered unbeatable boxer Foreman. Ali's insides were so badly beaten he was spitting blood after the fight.
    Ali is the greatest in every way you can imagine.
     
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    Federer's popularity is staggering, leaves Andy far behind.
    That's not entirely a reflection on Murray either.
    Federer's longevity in the game is impressive and plays a significant factor.
     
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    Murray treats Masters 1000 matches vs top 3 like a true slam final and like its the last match he'll ever play. I'm sure he would never do that.
     
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    first there was tennis

    then there was federer






    about ali.. ali is such a legend because of a number of different aspects that all came together with him. few of them were actually related to sports. he was a fantastic boxer, certainly one of the best there ever were. but he was also a showman, an attention seeker (if not ***** lol), an egomaniac, a revolter and all that made his story go way beyond simple boxing and reach far into culture and even politics. that just isnt the case for any other sports icon and so ali stands alone up there
     
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