Murray is finished...

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  1. SStrikerR

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    After losing easily to Kevin Anderson 6-3, 6-1 in Montreal, Murray is done. He has no mind, and a weak retriever game. He will drop out of the top 5 next year, and slowly slide from there. Will never win a major. Will never shave again.

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  2. tennis_pro

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    I have to say I'm a bit surprised. Murray used to be so hard to beat on hard courts on the Masters level even a year ago.
     
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    It's possible you're right. Not likely, though. He has much more than a "weak retriever game."
     
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  5. BreakPoint

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    Hmmm...isn't that what people said after he lost in the 1st round to Donald Young in Indian Wells and then right afterwards in the 1st round to Alex Bogomolov in Miami earlier this year?

    Then he makes the semis of Monte Carlo, Rome, French Open, and Wimbledon?
     
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    And he won exactly zero of those too.
     
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    Lol. The best part was when you said he will never shave again. You win.
     
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  8. Clarky21

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    Nah,he's far from done. I still make him one of the favorites along with Djokovic,Federer,and Delpo to win the USO this year.
     
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  9. SStrikerR

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    That was a slump. That's different. This is Murray being mentally and physically out of it, and he will not recover. He knows he can't do it, and the pressure is too much. He's done. Today's match was the final razor.
     
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    This definitely opens up a clear path to the final for Nadal ;)

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    Anderson must have had a stupendous serving day... and Murray a bit off
     
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  11. HiroProtagonist

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    Well he was clean shaven and lost, so if he can he needs to grow an epic beard to intimidate the likes of KA.

    Also; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFxWkUkUsQA
    Psss that means I think your supposition is erroneous
     
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    Anderson must have had a stupendous serving day... and Murray a bit off[/QUOTE]


    and that's all it takes at any level to get your butt handed to ya...
     
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    Yep he should make 6 masters finals in a row. This never seems to ahppen when Murray is in Novak's half... actually he never is in Novak's half haha.
     
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    Be a treat to see a Nadal-Federer final in Montreal :)
     
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    and that's all it takes at any level to get your butt handed to ya...[/QUOTE]

    I agree. Murray should recover, this is not the first time this happens with him. But, it makes you wonder.
     
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    Didn't see the match but reading reports of it, from Murray's vantage point this once again looks like an extremely disappointing result, regardless of Anderson's display. Apparently Murray was not effective at all in this match and scoreline confirms that.

    But no, he's not finished.
     
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  17. Bud

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    He's just been really inconsistent this year
     
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    He needs more hair.
     
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    I think he needs a new coach, someone who will kick his arse a bit. He always looks happy when he is training which is strange as he seems such a miserable git on court.
     
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  20. Amelie Mauresmo

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    I am a bit surprised at how well Kevin Anderson played he was actually very aggressive, serving huge, and moving well for a man that is six foot eight. I watched the match and Anderson played a perfect match he made almost no mistakes and just hit first strike tennis. Anderson just overpowered Murray. Murray plays a counter punch type of game but that is not enough to beat the best players.

    I have never really seen Anderson play but he has a very good game. Even though Anderson isn't the best mover for a man that tall he seems to have good movement. Murray got deflated after losing the first set. I am just not impressed with Murray and Jimmy Arias even said the top players are really Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and not Murray. I have said this before but I believe the problem for Murray is mental he is so immature kind of like Andy Roddick. Murray has more talent than Roddick but he also lacks the emotional intensity to become a champion. I think Murray should concentrate on hiring a psychologist he needs to get in touch with his feelings and emotions. I also think he should start writing a journal as well.
     
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    He needs to put his hear-growing powers to his head, not his ugly beard.
     
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    Perhaps Agassi could sort out his game and his hair.
     
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    But he played his best tennis (USO Semi-Final 08) with a scruffy beard.
     
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    He does have much more than a weak retriever game,but he has to decide to use it.What good is having the tools if you don't use them?He reminds me of a current version of Lleyton Hewitt but without the belief and "have a red hot go" attitude.
     
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  26. Sartorius

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    Amen. From your fingertips on the keyboard to Andy Murray's ears.
     
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    People say this after every one of his losses. He'll be fine.
     
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    Murray Loosed?
     
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    Murray is Finnish.
     
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    And did he win the slam? No.
     
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    Murrays not done, he never even started. I still predict his first slam next year.
     
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  32. norbac

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    And Kevin Anderson.
     
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    And Donald Young.
     
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    Sorry to hear that Andy M lost in the first round. I know that in the US some people say that if you don't win the Super Bowl (American football championship game), World Series (baseball championship), Stanley Cup (hockey championship) or NBA championship you're not worthy of being called a GOAT. Does the same rule apply to tennis?
     
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    No, he's Scottish.
     
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  36. gino

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    Let's be real here..

    Andy is a fantastic player who lost to another great player in Kevin Anderson. This loss by no means says that his game has gone down the tubes. The guy had a bad match up in the first round. Does that mean he's peaking right now? No.

    However, it does mean that he is going to be more motivated in Cincinnati and prove that he is a force to be reckoned with on hard courts. I find it crazy that the title of this thread knocks Andy so heavily for losing a match to Anderson (who has a game essentially built for hard-court upsets).

    Am I wrong here?
     
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  37. SStrikerR

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    Yes, yes you are.
     
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    Yeah yeah. Funny how his lack of mind and 'weak, retriever game' has netted him 17 titles and 3 Slam final appearances as well as multiple victories against the three top players. Last year at the Rogers Cup he beat Nadal and Federer en route to winning the title for the second year in a row. Now how did he manage that with no mind and a weak game,I wonder?

    Sure, he had a bad day at the office. Didn't Del Potro have one too when he lost in straights to Gulbis in Washington last week? Did that mean the end of HIS career?
     
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    I'll play the Voice of Reason and offer: this is what happens when a guy has no huge weapon and comes off a fairly long layoff. Should have played LA.
     
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  40. Mainad

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    Since the AO, his hard court results have been terrible this year. This is his third straight loss in the opening match of a hard court Masters tournament. He seems to have forgotten how to play on what used to be his best surface. Since reaching the AO final, his best results have come on clay and grass this year (1 title and 3 semi-final appearances).

    Hope he gets his HC mojo back in time for the USO!
     
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    Be interesting to see how far Anderson gets in Montreal.

    So how do you suppose he beat Nadal and Federer back to back to win this title last year for the second time in a row?
     
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    Game,set and match! Thread closed. :)
     
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  44. r2473

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    Murray isn't done.

    The Murray's are playing doubles together.

    Easy oversight, so I forgive you
     
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    What era do you believe Murray would have done better in, given the state of the game and prevailing technology then?

    His mother seems very loving but also domineering. I would not be surprised if he were suffering from lack of individuation from her.

    I son needs to stand up and tell his parents, "No, this is my life! I will do exactly as I see fit, not always as you have taught me." Witness his lack of emotional maturity whenever the going gets a little tough. That may be evidence of having been sheltered by a parent who could not let go.

    His mom is ugly and mean-looking, in my opinion. I would not be surprised if she were the jealous, covetous type, always scheming with subtle emotional button-pushing in an effort to keep her little man under her thumb forever. She looks that creepy to me.
     
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  46. Carsomyr

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    Murray is Dunblane.
     
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  47. SStrikerR

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    6-3 Record over Andy Murray

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    Did I mention he's a year younger?


    See, I can pull numbers out too. And mine are better. I don't care what Murray did in the past, he's finished now.
     
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  48. norbac

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    Nole....is that you?
     
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    :)
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    Sounds great to me. Can't stand the cry baby anyway!!!

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