Murray literally has not broken a sweat yet..

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  1. Mike Sams

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    This tournament hasn't even brought anything out of him. It's like he's playing a 250 event against tired scrubs. :neutral:
     
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  2. 90's Clay

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    Well that not totally surprising. Look at all the scrubs we got from Rank 5-6 on down.

    Murray could just sleepwalk through these guys. He won't be challenge until Roger.. Though I'm not even sure, Roger will be that huge of a challenge anymore on a slower hardcourt. I can't see Fed staying in rallies with Murray anymore on slow court.


    The only guy I think Murray is gonna have to up his game ( to top form) for his Nole
     
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  3. The Bawss

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    Come on.

    Haase, Souza, Berankis, Simon. I could hardly line up a weaker bunch of clowns if I had the power to choose the draw for my favourite player.
     
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    Scottish people are literally famous for handling the heat.
     
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  5. TheF1Bob

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    About time we have a dedicated thread for this joke. Like I said the other day, playing against a bunch of nobodies at this stage of a grand slam is ridiculous.

    He has no excuses whatsoever if he doesn't get to the final, that's for damn sure.
     
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  6. rofl_copter3

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    Murray has had the single easiest draw in the open era of grand slam tennis... Even his quarter will be a stroll. He should be ashamed that he's been broken in the tournament already...
     
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  7. albatros_forehand

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    Murray got plenty of sun in Spain.. He is used to it
     
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  8. Warmaster

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    Not really, if he has to defeat both Federer and Djokovic it's automatically harder than Djokovic's draw who only needs to defeat Fed or Murray.
     
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  9. NEW_BORN

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    Yeah there's a reason Murray hadn't played a prime time match at night on RLA.
    Whereas Fed has played all but his first match at night.
    Seriously it's like Murray doesn't exist, no commentator's talking about him here in Australia.
     
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  10. gplracer

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    It all comes down to when Federer, Murray, and the Djokovic play each other in most cases.
     
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    Yeah his draw has been a joke. Might work against him if he has to suddenly up his game two levels. I doubt many would have pushed him anyway though.
     
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  12. mariecon

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    Is Murray playing the Australian Open? Haven't seen him yet. :shock::)
     
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    History shows that players that have had a hard draw do better in the big matches than those who have had an easy one. We'll see how he does against Fed.
     
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  14. Seventeen

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    Break point conversions by opponents:

    Murray

    R1: 2/7
    R2: 0/0
    R3: 3/12
    R4: 2/2

    Total: 7/21

    Federer

    R1: 0/3
    R2: 0/0
    R3: 0/1
    R4: 0/0

    Total: 0/4


    This is also with very different draws - just saying...
     
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  15. axel89

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    some could say murray has a harder draw all depends on how you look at it but the bp saving on murray nicely done
     
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  16. beast of mallorca

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    That's because he has not played anybody of significance yet. A tired and lame Simon does not count. But beating Fed then Djoker will be a tough task. He can probably beat Fed, but Novak ? In AO ......after probably a 5 set against Fed........we'll see.
     
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  17. WhiskeyEE

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    I wouldn't say that. Murray is better on the faster HC. He just lost at WTF, which is pretty slow.
     
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  18. 90's Clay

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    I wouldn't call the USO "faster" anymore.. They have slowed the speed down quite a bit in Flushing over the years.. Heck, it just keeps getting slower and slower
     
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  19. WhiskeyEE

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    yeah but i meant it as a relative term. 7/8 of his masters titles and his lone slam title were won on decoturf. he has never been great on the plexi surfaces.
     
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    Not having been tested before going against a tough opponent (likely in the semis) is not necessarily a good thing, especially at the beginning of a season.
     
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  21. Prisoner of Birth

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    One thing's for sure. If Federer and Murray make the semifinal, this will be the greatest 5-setter they have ever played. I foresee an epic.
     
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    I get the feeling it would be a good one...
     
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    A British tennis website was reporting on the difficulty of Murray's draw earlier today. I laughed.
     
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  25. Feña14

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    I think it has been difficult, in a way. He doesn't seem to of got into the tournament yet, and probably won't in the next round either. He's been complaining about not hitting the ball very well and his timing has been off. That doesn't really come as a surprise when there are no real tests or need for him to do so.

    When it's time to play Federer and/or Djokovic, that will no doubt hurt him. I personally think that having it so easy makes it more challenging at the end. Going from playing relative journeymen to Federer and Djokovic over night is a huge step up.
     
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    He won a GS.....he would be harassed if he doesn't make those adjustments.
     
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    It might not work in Andy's favour. He still likely has Roger and novak to face. His run to the semis could Hardly be easier though.
     
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  28. iriraz

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    I must admit.Except a bit of his match against Simon,i have seen no matches from him.All his match were pretty much scheduled in the early day in Australia(which is middle of the night for Europe).
    And all the coverage i`ve seen,live or replay has been mostly of the night sessions.
    It will be interesting to see,if he gets to the semis,how he will play in the night session on RLA.He has not played any night match there so he certainly needs to adjust.
     
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    His game is still ultra boring since he's basically a pusher with variety. To be honest I don't want to see his matches unless he's playing the top guys. It's not fun.
     
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  30. Feña14

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    I just think that playing Federer or Djokovic is always a huge step up, doing it after lesser preparation is even harder. It's like boxers who train against poor training partners in the lead up to a big fight, the sharpness just isn't there. I'm a big cricket fan and Countries who play weak teams in warm up matches very often fail when it comes to the Test matches when they come round. There is no substitute for real world competition, however much practice you put in.

    Federer for instance has had a nice progression through, the players he played were never going to beat him, but Tsonga and Raonic are great matches to prepare for the challenges ahead.

    Murray will likely be going into matches with Federer, and hopefully Djokovic, under done. As a fan that worries me.
     
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    I thought Fed hadn't been broken through the 4th round..impressive to say the least.
     
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  33. Sentinel

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    Maybe he's also been playing a bunch of nobodies which is ridiculous at this stage of a grandslam.Like someone said the other day. :D :D
     
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    It's strange. When the draw was made I would've put Djokovic down as the easiest draw, yet he's the only one of the big 3 to have been challenged in a match (v Wawrinka). I also think he now has the more difficult QF opponent in Berdych. Funny how the draw has panned out.
     
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    Federer is a pretty good excuse.

    Edit: Isn't that little person in your post a bit old to be F1Bob Batz.

    You can smell his fear and panic, and other moronic posters, as the posts get nastier and more hysterical as Murray advances.

    You can do a scientific correlation of stress, bigotry and hate from Round 1 through to final.
     
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  36. Faster

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    He has all the excuses: he's the only one who couldn't get into a rhytm
     
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    Very perceptive my friend. I think you might be on to something.

    What I like most about these threads is the notion that Murray has done something wrong because either he has a relatively easy draw or the seeds he is due to meet fall by the wayside.

    Like any of those things are within Murray's control.
     
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    you're forgetting that Berdych only brings his A-game when he plays Federer. He was a complete joke against ND and is always a complete joke against Nadal. I sometimes think he hates Federer so much that he'll tank a match to keep him from getting back to #1 or winning another GS (the conspiracy theorist in me). 2 breadsticks? How pathetic. And that was a QF of a GS. And Djoker, well you could never tell he played a marathon against Wawrinka less than 2 days earlier. Amazing recovery.
     
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  39. Prisoner of Birth

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    Why would he hate Federer?
     
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    Well, for that matter, who really wants to see ANY of the top guys unless they're playing each other? Where's the fun in seeing even Fed or Djoko destroy some low ranking oik? None of their matches promise to be really interesting until they play against each other!
     
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    Define "some". You mean batz and Mainad?
     
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  42. mariecon

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    gee I wonder? 17 GS's vs. 0 GS's :shock: In 2010 he said he didn't vote for Federer for the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award because of some perceived poor sportsmanship after he (TB) had beaten him at Wimby that year. Nadal won the award.
     
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  43. Mainad

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    Oh I get it,if he beats them, he's a disgrace because they're a bunch of nobodies! If he loses to any of them, he's a disgrace because they're just a bunch of nobodies!

    Basically, you just want to hate don't you?
     
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    You're right of course. Players can only beat the player across the net but that won't stop people from complaining about cupcake draws. It just seems certain players are luckier than others where the draw is concerned. And yes, he should indeed make the final with the opponents he's faced. But at the same time, his lack of challenging match play may work against him. Only time will tell how it plays out.
     
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    Then that means that everybody hates Federer, but I'm pretty sure that's not true. Regardless he's kind of got a point there. Even as a Federer fan, I say it wasn't one of his finer moments.
     
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    There's probably a few more but yeah, not many. :)

    The fact that you consider the possibility of them nobodies defeating your hero is just downright sad.
     
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    WTF is indoor, which will automatically make the balls fly faster due to less friction in air. This is just my understanding of playing indoor. May not be right.
     
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    Are you kidding me? No one ever calls out Nadal for all his whining of injuries after a match. I guess people are just so used to it with Nadal that they ignore it. Federer one time says he was dealing with an injury and he gets crucified for it. No wonder he keeps his mouth shut now. If fans (or media for that matter) expect honestly during pressers they aren't getting their money's worth. Federer is just held to a higher standard that's all.
     
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  49. Mike Sams

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    Federer should've given Berdych due credit....just for the sake of sportsmanship. Sometimes it's how you lose that counts more than how you win.
     
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    Don't include me! I've never tried to say he's got a tough draw and I feel reasonably sure batz would say the same!

    Oh, nobodies are as nobodies do. A nobody can come really good on occasion.
    Just ask Rafa!
     
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