Murray's "Celebration" Was Pure Class

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  1. winstonplum

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    I was actually going to write a post on this after the women's final. I'm so sick of many of the top pros' jacka*^ celebrations after they win a slam, whether it's Nadal's choreographed lying down on his back, Federer's falling to the ground as if he's been shot in the gut by a sniper, or Djoker's Incredible Hulk routine. Tennis is the most brutally zero-sum of sports. Whatever is fabulous for you directly correlates to what is horrible for your opponent. Obviously, all sports are like this, but one on one, out on the court, exposed, no dugouts or sidelines, something about tennis make it everything more so. So show some fuc&*n class to your fellow competitor.

    That said, I'm starting to appreciate Federer's understated demeanor. I've always found him boring on court, not his play, but his demeanor, but at least during the match, intentionally or not, he's quite a bit more respectful of his opponents than most. I've been playing more and more tennis in the last three years, and during several USTA matches I've encountered fu&*in idiots shouting "Vamos" "Come on", just like really loud, aggressive exhortations like we're playing at fu&*ing Wimbledon. I mean there's nothing wrong with pumping yourself up a little bit, but these fu&*ers are watching too much TV.

    Murray did it the right way. Took a minute and then went to shake his opponent's hand. And then didn't dance around prancing and laughing and climbing into the stands like a tw&*.
     
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  2. Feña14

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    Hopefully we get to see it many more times :)

    It's hard to know what he was feeling at the time, the relief to of finally got there must of been immense. I don't think he believed it had happened personally, he was probably more shocked than anything and didn't know what to do.
     
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  3. Tafmatch

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    Agree. They should show some class although I have to admit that I don't know what it feels like to win a slam ;).

    On the other hand, being a poker player, it's not done to celebrate wildly after stacking your opponent. It's the same zerosum situation.

    Lol at your tennis opponents shouting Vamos, never happened to me.
     
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  4. The3.5Ceiling

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    I was eagerly anticipating his reaction when he finally got a major. To be honest, I was a little disappointed, I thought a little more unbridled joy would have been good to see as a fan, but each person's reaction is their own. He responded how he responded; I was still happy for him.

    Honestly, I think if a guy is simply and genuinely overjoyed at winning one of these things it hardly constitutes disrespect to his opponent. I would be surprised if any player really begrudged an emotional reaction by their opponent upon winning a major title, it's an awfully big deal. But, I have to admit I don't know so I could be wrong on that...
     
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    Ever notice how NONE of the women seem to thank their "teams" like men do?
     
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    Yeah,I thought he was great after he won. It sure beats watching The Silverback beat his chest and strip half naked on the court after winning.
     
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  7. Feña14

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    That's an interesting observation. You're right, it seems to be one of the first things the male finalists do, often mentioning their opponents team in their speech as well.

    Maybe it's because the top 4 have such great respect for each other and know their inner circles, for instance Murray and Djokovic have known each other since they were kids, so it makes sense they also know the people around them.

    Even so, it's a nice gesture is think of the people who helped them get to where they are.
     
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    Murray should have shouted "I am DA MAN, I am DA ****". He should have done the M (Mobot).

    He should have pulled up his sleeve and flexed his biceps.

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    He should have pulled up his shorts and exposed his underwear like he did the previous match.

    He should have made some nice faces like this.

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    Now that would be classy. To me he looked like he was too shy or embarrassed to celebrate.
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    ^ I've seen a guy (Indian kid) shouting "I am DA MAN" in a challenger in India. This was not at the end but somewhere in the middle after winning a point. I heard it several courts away :)
     
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    Yeah, you don't miss a single opportunity to bring Cvac into each poast of yours, do ya ? :D
     
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    Nah,it's not that. It's simply the truth.
     
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  12. B A Y

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    HA HA! Love it... WELL SAID!!

    I too play in a competitive league and come across so many little snotty nosed youngsters who walk around like they are Gods gift to tennis. When they are actually crap and never going to make it! Where is a bit of graciousness in defeat!
    To me it also comes down to tennis etiquette which I don't believe is taught to youngsters anymore.
     
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    Zantac and Tendinitis are clearly two of the most classless winners ever seen. And they both win mostly through their opponents' unforced errors. Coincidence?
     
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    Murray's win was very refreshing. Good for him.
     
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    No, no. Daman was the guy's name. His opponent asked him who he was.
     
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  16. CMM

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    What's wrong with climbing into the stands and showing your emotions?
    Right after winning Murray went to his family and I thought he was going to hug them and celebrate the victory. Instead, he went there to ask them where is the watch from his sponsor.
    Rafa's reaction made the RG win even more special because you could see how much it meant to him.

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  17. schap02

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    That last pic would be a sweet autograph....
     
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    Don't tell me you are one of these boring old traditionalists that still buy into this whole "it's a gentleman's game" croak of shi*? Honestly. Lighten up and lose this idea that every player has to act like a politician on court and reign in emotions.
     
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    Your style leaves little doubt as to whether or not you're qualified to judge who's classy and who isn't.
     
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    It depends on the situation for me.For example when Rafa crushed Fed in 08 FO. You can see the respect there,he didnt have a big celebration.When he beat him after an epic match 08 Wimbledon,he celebrated it of course,Which is so normal under that circumstances.
     
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    Scripted, gilded letters imprinted on a worn and deeply aged leather book cover:

    'The end.'
     
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    I completely agree with this.
    That said, I prefer a happy celebration over a "boring" one like the one Murray had especially after losing 4 finals already.
     
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    Murray's celebration was very classy but he should've celebrated more!! I mean it was a 76 year drought and the pressure finally dropping. His celebration didn't reflect that it was kind of an anti-climax!! Players usually have the best celebration when they win their first slam or something they've been waiting to for a long time like delpo 2009 or fed RG 2009 Rafa wimby 2008
     
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    I personally thought he left Djokovic waiting too long at the net. Go to the net right away, and then do your ****. This lying down on the court crap really pisses me off. I have won a lot of tournaments, and I always got the handshake out of the way before prancing around and enjoying the feeling of being the only survivor left in a war of 64 participants.

    And his celebration was nothing like the joy of a Serena, so he shouldn't have bothered anyways.
     
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  25. smoledman

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    This is so full of win.
     
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    Murray's really limping there.
    He must have been playing right on the edge.
     
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    Yeah he was!! The adrenaline kept him going but it was obvious both of them were going to cramp!
     
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    Seriously they have to speed up the courts or these guys won't be around for long.
     
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    I felt that Murray's celebration was too understated. Very British of him but also quite boring. After losing four slam finals and then to finally win on his fifth try I was expecting something more celebratory. Oh well. :-?

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  30. Feña14

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    To me, the Murray celebration there says a thousand things more than the others. The others expressed great joy, and that's good to see. Murray's though, it just looked like pure relief, he's just realised a dream he had seemed destined for, but time and time again had been just out of reach. People were questioning if he would ever do it, every day people would ask him when he would finally win one and he had to live with that.

    His reaction to winning it was very special I thought.
     
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    I am just glad he didn't fall on the ground like every one, man or woman, seems to do now.
     
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    It was his feet that were the problem - really sore, he says one of his toenails is falling off and another loose. Yuk.

    He already did the "climbing in the stands" bit at the Olympics. I don't think what he did was intended as a celebration at all - he was just stunned with relief that he had done it at last.
     
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    Wow, I didn't realise Djokovic was THAT excited! :wink:
     
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    I always thought Safin was very classy after big wins...if you watch him after winning the USO and Australian (and when he beat federer in the sf) he always seemed pretty restrained and respectful towards his opponents. Not really what I expected from such a temperamental guy
     
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    No one here will ever know what it feels like to win a grand slam, so who is anyone to judge?
     
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    1) Murray does not come across as very entroverted

    2) 4 previous defeats in finals have humbled him.

    3) When he finally won I'd bet his initial emotions were more relief in finally winning rather than overwhelming joy from finally winning a big one.

    OTOH Djoko talks at length to the media with a smile and seems to enjoy it.
     
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    It didnt come across as class.

    Not that he is not classy, apart from his cursing on court he is a pretty humble guy.

    The thing is the lack of celebration had nothing to do with class, rather with the situation. Maybe if the tiebreak was in the fifth rather than first it would be different.

    Anyways, it was like...finally I won a major...and it was almost by default, when there was no number one or two and only Djoker who wasnt at his best. So at the end it looked like he was given the major more than he took it.

    When you want something for so long, slowly but surely, it loses its excitement. And that's how his celebration looked like.
     
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    I agree and disagree. I think he was exhausted and at that point it was kinda a relief as much as it was a joyous moment.
     
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    Nothing disrespectful about celebrating a victory, much less one so big. People express their emotions is a different way, plus, as others have said, Murray was probably more relieved than happy.

    This.
     
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    To each his own. The reason why a Nadal does what he does is because he is finally letting it all out. He never once believes he has won a match until the last point is over. When someone plays with that kinda focus, I don't mind them letting it out when its finally over. Same with Federer, who is so controlled and bottled up during his matches. I actually don't mind it, simply because most of the time I end up at least half as excited as them myself, clapping and jumping around all excited while in front of the TV. If I can be as excited just as a fan, I don't grudge any kinda celebration really.
     
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  41. Hood_Man

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    He should have silenced all the "Murray's a Scottish loser" types by, instead of grabbing his watch from his bag, pulling out a flask, putting on a top hat and tails, and having himself one of these:

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    I actually prefer a good celebration. I thought his celebration sucked. When Roger beat him in Wimbledon he had to tone down his celebration because he beat poor Andy in GB and the whole nation was rooting. I felt bad for Fed.

    Why not celebrate? Whats the point of winning? Pop a champagne if you have to. You reach the mountain top you celebrate. Shows how much it means to you.
     
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    Mostly, it looked real. Not pre-planned or choreographed. Not designed to lead up to him reaching into his bag and slipping on the limited edition warmup jacket adidas had made in advance for him - the one with the giant "1" emblazoned on the back in gold lame embroidery - for the trophy presentation.
     
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    I agree. Shake your opponent's hand (hug and exchanging some words optional), THEN run into the stands to hug your friends, family, team. Like I said in another thread I probably would have stood there in shock as well.
     
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    I thought it mades sense for him. I also thought it was honest. Not everyone has to perform a reheased celebration to make spectacle of themselves for the newsreels to be human.
     
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    As was him reaction to the Wimbledon final upon losing ....
     
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    His celebration was way too muted for me. It was Safin-esque lol.
     
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    Yes.

    The only time he REALLY celebrated a victory was against Sampras in the 4R in AO 2002.
     
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