Murray's not as fit as the Djoker?

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  1. sportsfan1

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    Murray was hampered by foot blisters in the AO final, likely due to his 5 setter against Fed in the SF.
    Djok of course has shown over the last few years that he can go through consecutive 5 set matches without any issues - AO 2012 - vs Murray then vs Nadal - both grueling matches. USO 2011 as well, he beat Fed in 5 sets in a very physical match, then dominated Nadal in the final beating him in 4 sets.
    Given that both are the same age and have the best conditioning staff, why is Murray not as fit or better? What does he lack, or is it all mental?
     
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  2. Rozroz

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    it's those magic insoles.
     
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    Blisters

    Blisters aren't mental and aren't related to fitness either. It's really clear that for the first 2 sets the 2 players were on equal terms. I do think that Djokovic is phenomally fit though.
     
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    Murray I think is just as fit as Djokovic, he's a fitness monster, and Lendl surely has him under a very good fitness regime.
     
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    Murray's mother was a sht cook and didn't give the right nutrients in youth to make him strong. Not enough porridge, haggis and cod liver oil.
     
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    She probably does not eat healthy herself. That is probably why Andy was born with unfinished knees. :)
     
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    If Murray was brought up by Djokovic's mum who is an excellent Byzantine cook, he would be a world beater.
    Just not a level playing field.
     
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    murray is just as fit, he likes to fake an injury and pretend to be tired, not sure why, prob watching too much soccer. thats what you saw, he's not really tired or injured.
     
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    Did u see the frisking blister ?
     
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    I think he is more fit than the djoker.. djoker just recovers quicker between matches and has better endurance..
     
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    murray has bigger muscles than djokovic. bigger muscles not only mean more weight but more energy and oxygen to keep them working.

    but also, murray, although becoming better in this regard, still has habits of not closing out matches. now compare that to djokovic who is the superlative of coming back in matches as well as closing matches.
     
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    QFT. The OP's claim that Murray is not fit is unfounded. Andy may not have been as mentally tough a couple of years ago but I do not believe that we have seen evidence of that recently. He went the distance with Roger in the AO SF and prevailed. He has been in the past 3 slam singles finals and won one of them. And then there are those Gold & Silver medal in London. Hardly sound like a guy that isn't fit or mentally tough.
     
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    Of course Murray is fit. The question was relative to Djok.
     
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    We did not see evidence of that either in the AO final. Djoko had an extra day of recovery after his relatively easy 1.5 hr SF match with Ferrer. Murray had a much tougher 5-set (4 hr) SF match with Federer.

    Again, blisters ain't mental and they ain't fitness.
     
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  16. Bobby Jr

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    Murray should get with the plan and tape his feet like most of his peers do instead of wearing those silly ankle braces. Taped feet - if done properly - prevent injury and the blister issue is pretty much avoided other than on the toes.

    Regardless of form, having your play affected by blisters on your feet is a rookie mistake Murray shouldn't even be worried about anymore.
     
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    The work Murray put in during the off season would appear to be considerable. I think certain hacks went over and watched him in action, and were suitably impressed by what they saw in Miami. While Murray is working his backside off, Novak is playing money spinning exhibitions and then holidaying with the bloke from Virgin.
    Despite this, Novak looked like he could play all day and all night in the final, while Andy became noticeably paler as the match progressed. After set 2 there was only one winner.
     
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    It's amazing Murray's team has not yet contacted you about procuring your services. You can always spot those profound technical errors in Murray's game and his fitness/medical routine that everyone that is paid to be around him clearly overlooks.
     
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    Well, apparently it was not just blisters, but a harmstring injury as well (occured during the Fed match) that hampered his movement, especially later on.

    I think Djokovic is fitter, although Murray looks fitter.
     
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    I was wondering the same. Seems like such a basic mistake in such an important match.
    You'd also think professional tennis players feet would be tough as leather?
     
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    Murray's fault for not finishing the match in straight sets which he had the chance to do.
     
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    Murray seems to pound the ground when he moves. He looks extremely fast on his feet, but not that light on them. He reminds me of a freight train with a head of steam, something that packs a ton of force.
     
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    Well said. When I watch them play, it just seems like Murray's explosive movement takes quite a toll on him. Djokovic covers the ground probably even better than Murray, and he does it with seemingly less effort. I think Djokovic's flexibility allows him to take longer strides while chasing a shot down.
     
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    Murray refuses to use the cvac. Nole's stamina and endurance is way better than Murray's.
     
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    I don't know at what point in the match it happened, so... ;) But yes, of course. Same goes for Fed at the Olympics.
     
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    I must again point you back to my original post :). Djok has demonstrated, albeit in the past, his ability to go back to back 5 setters - AO 2012. USO 2011 also comes close (5 setter vs Fed followed by 4 sets against Nadal).

    Bobby Jr has an interesting point about taping the feet. Murray has access to a world class support team, but there must be some mistakes they may be making such as these as opposed to the Djok.
     
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