My all time greatest player list

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  1. Type40

    Type40 Semi-Pro

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    Just a personal list of favorite players, based on talent, entertainment value, champion's spirit and overall ability as I see it.

    1. Bjorn Borg
    2. Pete Sampras
    3. John McEnroe
    3. Boris Becker
    4. Stefan Edberg
    5. Roger Federer
    6. Ilie Nastase (yes he was that good)
    7. Ivan Lendl
    8. Rod Laver
    9. Jimmy Connors
    10. Lleyton Hewitt
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

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    Interesting list, but i have Lendl much much higher.
     
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  3. Camilio Pascual

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    You shifted from greatest to favourite so I'll cover both of your scenarios.
    Favourite:
    1. Amanda Coetzer
    2. Chris Evert
    3. Pancho Gonzalez
    4. Tony Trabert

    Greatest, blending in all that criteria in no particular order:

    Mo Connolly (I think she would have very likely been the greatest tennis player who ever lived)
    Martina Navratilova
    Ken Rosewall
    Pancho Gonzalez
    Chris Evert
    Pete Sampras
    Jimmy Connors
    Ivan Lendl
    Bjorn Borg
    Steffi Graf
    Rod Laver
    These 11 are my Top Ten.
     
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    Although he wasn't the greatest personality in tennis, Pete Sampras is my favorite male player of all time. As for the women, I always admired the way Steffi Graf handled herself and played.
    Henman and Hewitt are also very cool players. And, Lindsay Davenport is terrific, although not necessarily entertaining to watch. I guess I like the boring players!
     
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  5. Steve Huff

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    Although I like Steffi Graf, I think a lot of her results have to have an asterick by them. Seles was in the prime of her career, and I think she had beaten Steffi the last few times they played before she was stabbed. I think Seles would have won at least half of the tournaments that Steffi claimed. The guy that stabbed her got off in less than a year too. He should be paying her out of his own pocket to make up for all the money he cost her. It wasn't Steffi's fault, so you really can't take away her accomplishments, but I still think those wins need an asterick beside them.
     
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  6. Rickson

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    10. Jim Connors
    9. John Mac
    8. Ivan Lendl
    7. Yannick Noah
    6. Andre Agassi
    5. Rod Laver
    4. Arthur Ashe
    3. Boris Becker
    2. Pete Sampras
    1. Roger Federer
     
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  7. Peter Samprer

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    1. pete sampras
    2. andre agassi
    3. roger federer (will go higher if he wins more grandslam and remain #1 for long like pete did)
     
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  8. Jayzzz

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    You guys forgot Scoville Jenkins!
     
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  9. rommil

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    Is he related to Mrs "I ain't wanna gossip" Jenkins?
     
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  10. AAAA

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    Totally agree. At the time of the stabbing Seles had won 8 of the previous 12 slams, Graf 2, Sabitini and Martina N. 1 each. An asterisk is needed but in this world of instant info the lengthy explaination would be too indigestable for the casual reader.
     
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  11. rommil

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    I agree as well. So votes goes to Sampras and Seles.
     
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  12. Datacipher

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    A fair list. Defendable. Though I'm not sure Rosewall would make my top 10.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    Yeah not bad at all. Criteria is the key i guess but i have to have Seles in there. Rosewall and Pancho may not have made it for me, the latter was surpassed by Budge and Kramer for mine, similar era too. Kramer definitely had Pancho's measure at one time and he considered Budge better too.
     
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    Borg - unpretentious, almost won the USO and everything else, truly missed
    Graf - big forehand, consistent serve, I like her hopping around
    Laver - Longevity, good technique
    Ivan Lendl - Strong, not easily discouraged
    Jim Connors - Longevity, came back from almost losing, fiery, although rude
    Edberg - Strong volleys, conquered his USO phobia
    Arthur Ashe - Classy even though not the best player
    Muster - Not best, but likeable game and personality
    Pete Sampras - Disciplined but hypocritical "I wasn't an ******* on court," annoying tongue, phony hang dog body language
    Evert- Not that powerful but she wasn't obnoxious like Martina. Chris did her best most of the time
     
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  15. lendl lives

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    agassi.......
     
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  16. clownsuck

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    This list is solely based on who I have personally watched over the years. Being only 25, the list will be obviously limited.


    Men

    1. Federer
    2. Lendl
    3. Sampras
    4. Edberg
    5. Conners
    6. Agassi
    7. Wilander
    8. Mc Enroe
    9. Becker
    10. Muster

    Ladies

    1. Graf
    2. Seles
    3. Hingis
    4. Navrarolova
    5. S Williams
    6. Evert
    7. Henin
    8. Sabatini
    9. Novotna
    10 V Williams
     
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  17. EdbergFan

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    Only including players I have watched, i.e. since 1979, men and women in no particular order

    Edit: I just realized that the title had "greatest" in it. The list below is a favorite player list. A greatest player list would have had Lendl and Connors on it for sure and not one or two of those listed


    John McEnroe
    Stefan Edberg
    Roger Federer
    Steffi Graf
    Andre Agassi
    Pete Sampras
    Mats Wilander
    Richard Krajicek
    Boris Becker
    Justine Henin-Hardenne
    Leander Paes
    Miroslav Mecir
    Goran Ivanisevic
     
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  18. david aames

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    I agree with the two last posts -- how many of us actually got a good look at Laver's game?

    Sure we all heard of his record but a match or two on the Tennis Channel doesn't really help in appreciating how great he was...
     
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  19. Kaptain Karl

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    I love this thread.

    [From my post in another thread]: To “date myself” I’ve “been there” at the US Open for all it’s versions: Grass, clay and hard. I’ve visited with Laver, Nastase, Ashe, Tanner, Borg, Mac, and Evert. I consider myself a true student of the game.

    What makes one a “great” tennis champion, IMO, is the player elevated, not only themselves ... but the game. This constrains the list for me:

    Tilden - would beat you by attacking your strength. That way you’re “plan B” was to try ... your weakness
    ”Little Mo” Connolly - heart, ability, sportsmanship, fun
    Laver - what “force of will” ... and he epitomized sportsmanship
    Nastase - He could do things with the racket and ball no other players could imagine. (Okay, I admit he’s a “category breaker” but I’m still putting him on my list.)
    Newcombe - Good guys really can win. Always seemed to be having a blast on the court
    Goolagong - Her grace was like watching music on the court
    Connors - Put fire in the game. You could not “just sit” and watch him play. You loved ... or hated him
    Borg - To stay at the top, he continued to employ new strategies. Few give him the respect he really deserved for that ... adaptability. (We should all learn....)
    Navratilova - Can’t stand her, personally, but she truly introduced more game to the women
    Agassi - He “re-birthed” himself. (Used to “tank” regularly.) So much game out of (really) what is just an ordinary body. An ambassador of tennis
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    And Federer is on the threshold of greatness. I hope he continues to blow my mind for the next several years....

    Serena “could be” great. But she’s gotta stop thinking she can do so many other things besides tennis. (She cannot act worth a darn. She just plain stinks in acting.)

    - KK
     
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  20. Tim Tiger Henman

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    You are right about Agassi having an "ordinary" body. When I saw him at the practice courts at Wimbledon he looked like this short guy struggling to get the ball over the net for the serve. Of course he wasn't *struggling* - its just that he was working so hard. To look at him you wouldn't think he had a chance.

    I think you have a great list of greats KK, but your addition of the SISTA is insulting to the other people on your list who are truly deserving of the title great. DIVAS and SISTAS are not great. They are pathetic.
     
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  21. Kaptain Karl

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    I’m new here. Please explain “SISTA”?

    - KK
     
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  22. david aames

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    It's just a racist stereotype favoured by some around here to characterize the Williams sisters.

     
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  23. Type40

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    Nastase had federer's talent, but unfortunately he had a McEnroe type temperament, only worse. A true genius with his raquet. Wish you could get some Nastase on Video now.
     
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  24. intense2b

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    I was shocked to see that Borg only appeared on one list!!!! I think he won Wimbledon 5 years in a row and the French 6 times (something like that). He completely dominated Lendl. He made it to five or six US Open Finals...and he Finally lost wimbledon to Mcenroe in the Wibledon finals (He beat Mcenroe the year before employing a serve and volley game). He basically invented the topspin shot . He did all of this by I believe the ripe old age of 27(It would have been scary to see his record had he not retired)!!! I think Federer or anyone else will have a hard time equaling that record by the age of 27. Borg is the most underestimated and overlooked tennis player of our time. He is not talked about as much as his contemporaries like Mcenroe , Connors and Lendl yet he may be one of the greatest players that tennis has ever seen or will ever see again.
    Finally people are going to freak out but I dont think Lendl should be on the list. He never won Wimbledon. In my book you just cannot be considered an all-timer if you don't win Wimbledon. Its the world series of tennis. Here's my top ten (not in any order):

    1. Borg
    2. Mcenroe
    3. Connors
    4. Sampras
    5. Agassi
    6. Laver
    7. Tilden
    8. Becker
    9. Federer
    10 Edberg
     
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