My initial experience with the Silent Partner Swing and Stringing an old racquet.

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  1. Mansewerz

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    Okay so here goes.

    Today I received my Silent Partner Swing in the mail I was very excited and I opened it up rather quickly. So after opening it, I crack open the manual and start assembly. Pretty straight forward and helpful. I was done with the set up in like 15-20 minutes. Then I get my Wilson Graphite Supreme Stretch (28" length) to string. I don't really use this racquet, but I might now, and for practice, why not, right?

    I start mounting and here is where I got stuck for a bit. I didn't bother to read the mounting instructions, and winging it didn't help. I then fiddled with it and nothing great happened. I consulted the manual, and presto, it helped. There is some further fiddling that may be needed with the D supports. Probably the fact that this racquet is not very conventional. In the end, I got it to fit pretty well, except questionable at one point. Not too major, just a little bit off empty space where it should fit more snugly. Whole thing took like 15 minutes.

    On to the stringing. I go upstairs and get the stringing info. Here's where all hell broke loose (not really, but it sounds dramatic). I realize that my racquet is allowed to be strung bottom up. Hell no am I doing that, It's old already and I don't wanna risk it. So I review the general ATW w/o the starting clamp (thanks YULitle!) and it should work. I go flare a grommet a little to hold two strings and it works.

    However, at this point, my Mom asks me if I want lunch. Okay, good idea to do it now so that I can just string it later w/o going hungry.

    *Time skip*

    I get to my stringer at about 2:10 PM. The racquet is already mounted. I bust out the other tools, get my marker to check for slippage and my other sharpie for measuring. The machine has a ruler on it. I measure out the string, do it twice to be sure, and proceed.

    I double pulled the mains like it says to do. So I did. Then I mess up and forget to double pull the other starting main, so I start over. I realize that indents are being made on the strings, so I loosen the clamps. I proceed and at this point, it's rolling again. I must say that these clamps were superior to the ATS SS/Gamma x-2 clamps in a few ways. In some, they weren't.

    I find some tricks for going faster and I put the dropweight down after every pulling to get my full 360 degree rotation (yea, I love it!). Will talk more about dropweight later. Before I know it, i'm done with my mains, but I'm following the General ATW. It's about 3:00PM now. Yes, that's a while for mains, but on a new machine and after messing up, I'm content.

    Now I start the crosses. Here's where I'm in a pickle. I get to about the 6th cross. Hmm, my weaving has gotten better if I do say so myself. I then realize that on a ATW there are cross skips!!! ( the last main that you didn't do must have its grommet skipped) I realize this by seeing that the crosses were slanted. So I undo the crosses to the first two crosses, and start again. Everything's going well now. It's about 4:00PM when I reach the 18th cross. Then I realize that the pattern on the Silent Partner website was WRONG! The Wilson Graphite Supreme stretch is a 16 x 19, not a 16 x 20. So now my last cross ends up on the wrong side, and I can't complete the string job. UGH!!!!

    So i go back, undo the crosses, have a little clamping trouble, and finally finish the job at about 5:00PM.

    So for my first string job, from delivery to finishing of the string job, it took from about 12:30 to 5:05PM!!! Oh well.

    Now to the machine itself.

    Clamps
    These clamps were awesome. I loved that they were much more compact than the ATS ones and they held well. Only problem is adjusting is a little annoying to prevent indentations on the string. Also, they don't open as wide, so I had to move some strings while doing the crosses because the clamps couldn't reach. Sometimes I would put the clamp on the crosses before tensioning the string, but I wouldn't close the clamp, just leave it open as like a tunnel or path for the string to follow. Also, make sure that after every tensioning and clamping, you put the tension bar down because the clamps go on top of the stringbed during the crosses.

    Clutch
    The clutch was so smooth and easy to use. No problems whatsoever. It just felt like a slight bit more effort to get the string in the jaws. Nothing major, you get accustomed to it in a jiffy. Also, I had no trouble holding the clutch, and it felt even easier than the ATS although it had no grooves. However, this was at 55 lbs and the other was at 60 lbs, so the tension could have caused it. Also, no ratchet sounds and you can just lift it as much as needed for the clutch to kick in, you don't need to go by ratchet clicks. Though, both are fine. Don't believe what is written on the Eagnas site. There are no sharp edges and holding the clutch is fine.

    Turntable and Brake

    The table is shorter lengthwise than other stringers, or so it seems, but it held a 28" frame fine. The table is also shorter heightwise, but I've heard that this is to prevent frame flex. The only time it's annoying is the first few mains.
    However, the brake is not very good, I tightented it, and I doubt it should be used for 03 racquets. Then again, it's a screw brake on a $199 machine, so you get what you pay for. Can help on knots though! :D

    Mounting
    You've already read my troubles with mounting. It's not hard once you read the manual, and the W adapter fit my first racquet fine. I liked the mounting, it felt more secure. You just need to mess with it a bit.

    Silent Partner service
    Silent partner has been great so far. They don't send out order confirmations, but you can check your orders on their website. Also, you can request a tracking code for your shipment that they will e-mail to you. The only thing is the pattern that was wrong on their website.

    Should I e-mail Silent Partner about their pattern for this specific racquet, or could my racquet be a rare one of it's kind with one less cross?

    Also, any suggestions for the clamp problem I had about the width of the clamps?

    Overall, it was a great machine, works smoothly. Also, I love the silver black design with the red. Silver and black is like my favorite combo!

    I can post pics later if you guys want me to. Great buy so far.
     
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  2. Mansewerz

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    Also, i would like to mention, with this machine, my frame shortened by like 1/16th of an inch, totally acceptable. I finished the mains, and maybe I'm paranoid, or the head really was a bit rounder, so I bumped up the crosses by 2 lbs. So the final set up was 55 lb mains, 57 lbs crosses. I'll probably try it without the 2 lb bump next time. Depends on who's racquet it is.
     
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    Nice review. I am glad you have found the stringer for you.
     
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    I don't know if you know it already, but the turntable brake only works when the table is turned at certain specific angles, i.e., the brake doesn't work by increasing friction, but like this:
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    Nice Review Man!Good stuff! Glad you liked it.
     
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  6. Mansewerz

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    Oh, oops! LOL, any tips for those clamps? I must say though, they were awesome despite the flaws I pointed out.
     
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    Thanks guys. Lots of searching and reading reviews, and I'm pretty happy. Now I just need some more practice. Gonna string my bro's tomorrow after camp. Only problem is, I can't go 100% yet cuz i'm sick :(
     
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    nice... this was the machine i was thinking of getting earlier, but decided against it for fixed clamps. and i thought i was slow taking 4 hours from delivery -> string job.
     
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  9. SLow

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    Excellent review. I had this machine a while back until I sold it off to a friend who needed a stringer to take with them to competitions.

    I have to agree that the flying clamps are some of the best I have used compared to others.

    I never really cared for the mounting system. It was kind of slow and tedious and after a while I ended up taking out the D supports.

    The racquet would slide around when mounting the crosses. Especially when it wasn't mounted tight enough. But having to turn the knob that tight wasn't good for the racquet. I found adding rubber pads (or cutting a replacement grip would work too) where the racquets mount to rectify this problem. Also a rubber band over the clutch works wonders too.

    As for racquet shortening. I have never had a problem with it. You do have to make sure the knobs are turned tight.

    Racquet shortening can happen on any machine. I let a friend who was learning to string, string a racquet of mine on a babolat star 5. Needless to say it wasn't mounted correctly, the head was warped when the racquet was done.
    One other time, I let another friend come over and use my neos. He forgot to lock the throat mount, luckly his racquet didn't break.

    Anyhow, have fun with the machine.
     
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    Thanks. I think I will continue with the 2 lbs on extra on the crosses unless asked otherwise. I may experiment without it on my own racquet later. True, the d supports were a little annoying, but the clutch felt fine. I loved how smooth it was. It's all about mounting correctly, and I felt the Silent partner was pretty secure.
     
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    Just finished my bro's K six one 95 (16 x 18 ) and it went well. i just need a starting clamp to help take up the slack and tighten knots when i finish mains/crosses. Strange though, the crosses are supposed to be tied off at 11T. Kind of far. It went well though. i continued my 2 lbs up practice on the crosses and no shrinking at all. Perfect 27 in when finished with the job. The bulky knot is somewhat difficult w/o a starting clamp, but I managed.

    This one took about 2 hours. I was slow at mounting again, had to fix the bolt on the D supports because the bolt was sticking out too much and would block the hole even though the support itself wouldn't. Also, I was talking to someone during the crosses. Once I get a starting clamp and some more practice, and some more adjustments, I should be going even faster. The mains were pretty easy and fairly faster than before.

    Also, any tips on those flying clamps and the first/last crosses that are wide?
     
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  12. Mansewerz

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    Also, do you know what the recommended angle is for the brake?
     
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    ^^^
    Trial-and-error: the screw can only be fully screwed in at certain angles. It's more of a lock than a brake.
     
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  14. SLow

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    I remember it being octogonal shaped or something similar. Anyhow, it can be locked when the surface is flat.

    The only time I ever used it was to string an O3 racquet and that was only because I lost my boomerang.
     
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    i see. When cleaning the string gripper and clamps, I use alcohol right? And does it matter that the gripper has diamond dusting? I'm aching to do anohter frame right now, but I don't have one, waiting on a cousin to give me his frame so I can string it. Hopefully all goes well.
     
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    Also, an response to this?
     
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    Alcohol is fine for cleaning the clamps.

    As for the flying clamps on the first and last crosses. I think that was probably one of the reasons why I switched to a machine with fixed clamps.

    Anyhow, I think I squeezed the strings together to clamp them.

    I did remember using some extra string to clamp along with the cross string and had it held butting against the mains. Probably not a great idea but if you were stringing an OS racquet where the last cross is far away from the other it might be the only way.

    Maybe someone else has a different idea.
     
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    Not sure how to edit my post but.

    Thinking back, I think I also used the 2nd flying clamp on that extra string and the cross next to it. And had them slightly staggered and touching each other.

    My clamps were on top on the strings.
     
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    The brake can work with O3's? I thought due to the limited angles, it wouldn't accomodate a full O3 string job. Also, the O3 hybrid sticks, like the Shark and hornet, are they easier to string than speed ports and newer O3s?
     
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  20. SLow

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    You only need to use the break for approx. half the crosses. It should be ok even with the limited angles.

    But if you are really concerned about the break not working well enough, you can always use a pen lid if you didn't have the boomerang.

    You'll probably understand when you string your first O3, the only thing I see people mess up on them is stringing the short side on the wrong side.
     
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    Hey, I'd figure I'd post here, since I just got my SP swing today (about 4 minutes after I saw the receipt in the USPS mail...) and have strung up a couple of racquets (A walmart one at...37? and a Thundercloud at 60). First one took ~1hr, the other 1.5hr (I screwed up the crosses, since some of the string got caught on the screw brake).
    For the clamps, how can one tell if they slip? I have them essentially at the point where they leave marks, but it doesn't seem the tension is quite right on some of the strings. As far as the last cross goes...Yeah, I just force it in, even though I did 2 OS racquets (though at 37 lbs...).

    Oh and another stupid me moment...I didn't fasten the throat mounting post enough and didn't notice it until the end, but the racquet ended up the right length (maybe even a bit longer...) and it didn't break ^_^;.

    Overall, a great machine except the flying clamps at the ends of crosses xD.
     
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  22. Mansewerz

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    Best way to do it is get a crayon. Then tension a string, make a mark on the string next to the clamp and check it again in like a min or 2 and see if the string slipped through. I just loosen them until it stops leaving marks. Then once the clamps stop indenting th string, I do the crayon trick to see if it works.
     
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