My prediction regarding the Williams sisters is still true

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  1. topspin

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    Those of you who were on the old board will remember what I'm talking about. I had basically said that the Wiliams' dominance would not last long. Last year they got injured, which in itself shows that they had to push really hard to try and win. Now both of them out at the French is further proof that their dominance is a thing of the past. I hate to say it again but I told u so. :lol:
     
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  2. alienhamster

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    Ummm, clay is clearly their weakest surface. Let's wait and see how they do on faster courts during the next year.
     
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  3. TwistServe

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    i wouldn't say clay is their weakest surface.. venus was undefeated on clay for this whole year, until now
     
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  4. Petra Martinnen

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    :idea: Better to say how Belgian "sisters" dominance is the thing of the past. Now did you think Serena and Venus could go 80-3 this year and every year?? Even Martina N and Chrissie and Steffi lost sometimes. If not, we would see many Grand Slam winners in the WTA! No, Serena and Venus healthy are still best on tour and will dominate. I think they just might not be "hungry" like a few years ago. Now after winning 10 slams over a few years and relgularly facing each other in finals the sisters might not be mentally so into it. Also they have a life off court.
     
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  5. Russell Finch

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    I always had the feeling that tennis was just something they were doing before they moved on to something else. Interesting to see if they (especially Venus) have the motivation to get back to 1 and 2.
     
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    there games represent what is wrong with tennis today

    can't volley their way out of a paper bag
    100+ inch racquet heads
    2 handed backhands
    baseliners

    I saw Serena try to volley from about 5 feet inside her baseline (a real volley not her typical swinging groundstroke volley) she sent it long!...ie past the OTHER baseline unbelievable
     
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    there games represent what is wrong with tennis today

    can't volley their way out of a paper bag
    100+ inch racquet heads
    2 handed backhands
    baseliners

    I saw Serena try to volley from about 5 feet inside her baseline (a real volley not her typical swinging groundstroke volley) she sent it long!...ie past the OTHER baseline unbelievable[/quote]

    That is the real reason why I can't stand to watch them play time after time after time after time, because I hate their games!! Seriously, they suck!!
    I mean, they have these widebody 115 rackets and STILL made a combined 100 unforced errors in five sets yesterday...just unbelievable
     
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    I agree with the above. Their strokes suck and they rely on power as a crutch. Serena's outfits are despicable and I can't stand their race-card playing dad.
     
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    Get a life.

    Like you wouldn't if that would get you to #1 on the ATP. You use what comes naturally to you. Hypocrite.
     
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  10. Capt. Willie

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    I too agree with all of you. I have long said that if we could put these two in a time-machine they would be no match for a skilled S&Ver such as Martina or Billie-Jean King. Anyway, I think we are now entering the era of the 'Russian Cousins'.
     
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    Sorry guys, but this small respite from the dominance of the Williams sisters will not last long. J-cap has had sooo many chances against Serena and finally pulled 1 off. Venus played like crap and started to blast the ball while Myskina ran everything down. It works on clay, but look for one of the sisters to go all the way at Wimbledon, where they basically dominate, and also at the US Open.
     
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    The Williams sisters do suck. They use huge racquets that are nine ounces and like rocket launchers. They're pretty annoying too. They grunt on drop shots and volleys, the whole thing is just for show.
     
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    Are you referring to Serena, Juan Carlos, Agassi, or Andy Roddick?
     
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  14. Andy Zarzuela

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    I have to disagree with you. Serena has decent volleys, but Venus in particular has sound volleys, and terrific technique up there. Plus with her height and wingspan, she's hard to pass. I'd also like to add that Venus and Serena play with racquets that weigh at LEAST 11.5 ounces. I've talked to some stringers at Bausch and Lomb, which Venus played in 2002 and Serena this year in 2004.
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    Oh, I like this 'Russian Cousins' stuff, but I think it's too early to speak about their era.
     
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    "Also they have a life off court."

    Maybe - but they voluntarily don't have a life away from the media. Especially Serena.
     
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    I'm happy we won't be seeing that annoying lil dance they do; u know the one I'm talking about, it looks like this --> [​IMG]
     
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    You have to remember, when Venus was dominating in 2000 and 2001, she wasn't exactly winning RG either. She never does that well at RG (not that a QF showing is bad to begin with).
     
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  20. The father of two very young girls said that his children would some day be No. 1 and 2 on the WTA Tour, and you're bragging about your "prediction" still being valid. I think it's time for you to snatch up some lottery tickets! You're red hot man . . .
     
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    I don't understand what everyone here is talking about. So what if they did not win the French Open, or they play with 100+ racquets. They have not been playing their best - that is for sure, but the rest of the field still has trouble beating them.

    And whomever thinks that their volleys, or games suck needs to get a life. Their volleys albeit are not the soundest in the history of the game but they are better (or on par) with any of the other women currently playing on tour.

    Granted, I can't stand either one, or their outfits, or their grunts, including their father-but give credit where credit is due. One of them will win Wimbledon or US Open, if not both.
     
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  22. @wright

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    Hey topspin, I think you have made a mistake regarding me and the hingis thread. Go have a look and show me where I made a racist comment.
     
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  23. topspin

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    @wright, my message was not directed at you, it was directed at bertchel banks.

    As for those of who insisting on making stupid peanut gallery type remarks about my predicion still being true, you need to re-read the original post on the old thread and see exactly what I wrote before you open up your yaps and spew out thrash that has no relevance to what I said. Thank you, come again...lol
     
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    I hate to say it but drakula is spot on. The only thing I have to add is if you put the sisters in a time machine they would kick the crap out of Billie Jean. All you guys who really think the Williams sisters suck must be smoking too much hippie lettuce.
     
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    Norcal, my buddy. I'll be damned! Thanks for shining my post with your input about Billie jean. You hit the nail on the head.
     
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  26. topspin

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    Ahhh well it's so nice to see some finesse tennis once again. Anastasia has made it fun to watch women's tennis again; not since Hingis have I seen such wonderful use of strategy. See you guys it's not just about muscles and power and screaming like banshees. Tennis is a game of finesse and no matter what you say, the W sisters have 0 of it.
     
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    Shut your cake hole. Myskina (though I was rooting fro her), like Hingis used as much strategy as a backboard.

    Again, racist filth spews forth.

    That would explain their combined 22 Grand Slam titles.
     
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    Hahaha looks like the racist/Williams loving/Hingis bashin dude is back with his insults. Hey I think your signature should read more something like "coo coooo" cuz that's what you are. Have a nice day:)
     
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    If my Williams-Loving & Hingis-Bashing makes me racist. What does your Hingis-Loving & Williams-Bashing make you?
     
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  30. topspin

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    honest...
     
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  31. Andy Zarzuela

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    I really don't understand why many people dislike these girls. I mean COME ON it's a remakable story that 2 under priviledge kids achieved the american dream and where to achieve their personal goals with their tennis. Not only that, but they have a life off the court and are well balanced. It's a great inspirational story, and I cry every time I see these pics. (Taken form Gettyimages....kudos to the guy who took these and/or published them)

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  32. topspin

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    I have nothing against them personally. I can't say anything bad about their off-court lives because it seems they are very smart girls and there is a lot more to them than the tennis. It seems that they are unique individuals.

    I just don't particularly like the power game that they play and find they have poor technical skills compared to other players and win just on power. I don't like how this has changed the game. But I am very happy to see that this has changed now back to the advantage going towards technical players.

    Also, I'm not so sure about this under-privileged stuff. I spoke to a pro coach last year and he told me that the dad took them to all the best coaches in the world and had to have each one of them fix all the flaws in their game. This requires a lot of money to do. So they got there with good coaching at every level since they started to play.
     
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    How can anyone generate power with poor technical skills?
     
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    Just wack at the ball and hope it goes in, lol. Seriously though, if you need to ask this question, you really don't know much about tennis or sports in general. Of course they have technical skills, but those skills are lacking compared to other players, so they compensate by being able to hit with a lot of power.
     
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    They compensate for poor technique by being able to hit with a lot of power? Much like all of what you say, that makes no sense.
     
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    There are a lot of other players who could hit powerfully despite unorthodox technique - Graf and Seles come to mind easily. Both have also been dogged by injuries throughout their careers, possibly attributable to their unconventional techniques. I'm not a biomechanics expert, but it seems to me that if a player hits hard with a certain unorthodox technique, he or she can get away with it for a while but sooner or later, their bodies suffer. There are other factors like how good an athlete the player is. The Williams sisters are definitely top athletes. Davenport and Pierce are two players who supposedly have better stroke mechanics than most, but because they aren't good athletes, they're prone to injury too.
     
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  37. Bertchel Banks

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    unorthodox technique isn't flawed technique. It just means different from the norm.

    How about Capriati. She has good technique and is a top athlete, yet she's injured alot.
     
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    If you don't understand that, then it proves that you really don't know much about sports in general. So then if what I say makes no sense to you, it means I'm on the right track.
     
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  39. Bertchel Banks

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    No. It proves that you can't express yourself in writing.

    On the track to demonstrating your fiirst grade writing skills. How old are you?

    Fact: This makes no sense.
     
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    Justine Henin-Herdenne. She's still number 1 in my book and her game is so much prettier than either Williams. I don't mind the 2 handed backhand so much, but the 1 hander of Justine's is just a work of art.
     
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  41. Chopin

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    This post is a joke, I'm having a lot of fun with it though. I really enjoy the morons who keep criticizing the Williams sisters technique. Yeah they generate a lot of pace with that poor technique! Its absurd to attribute their power solely to their athleticism and not their technique. They have very good technique, at least as good as Monica Seles had. Serena Williams has the best serve on the women's tour. The Williams sisters also haven’t destroyed the game with their 100 plus inch rackets, I’m sure you guys are all the same guys who hate Roddick or I guess any pro that uses a pure drive-oh wait-is that half of them? Oh and the French Open signaling the end of the Williams sisters dominance? Is that a joke? Clay is the worst surface for the Williams sisters. This post is a joke.
     
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  42. Chadwixx

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    those pictures are really amusing. they have top of the line equipment and rackets yet they still use a shopping cart to portray the "learned in ghetto" image. they were in florida for the majority of their youth training at the finest academy's we have.

    i say take away the drug testing so we can see some more venus vs serena finals, things just havent been the same since the wta started testing :)
     
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    Anyone can afford items like nice racquets as long the price is within reason. I know a few people who can barely scrape by, but they still have a decent racquets, but you don't see them driving a Lambourgini Diablo around do you? BTW, Venus and Serena got to the Academy through scholarship (like Maria). My tennis coach knew the guy that scouted them upon request by Richard. He watched them play and said "I don't know, they look like average juniors" and then Richard said " OK girls, show him what you do after practice." Then both Venus and Serena walked on their hands all the way to their car. That impressed the man and he granted them with the opportunity to come train at the Bolleteri Academy.
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    nono u dont get it. they were obviously sponserd at the time yet couldnt get a nice ball hopper for the pics :)

    im not saying they werent deserving of the scholarship, im saying they didnt learn how to playin the compton ghetto's like many williams fans think.

    when those shorts richard williams is wearing were popular those wilson profiles were about $350 each :)
     
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  45. topspin

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    Bertchel you can keep quoting me if you want, but your posts make absolutely no sense so I won't bother with you anymore since you obviously lack any sort of comprehension here.

    To those who think this post is a joke, all I can tell ya is "Thank you miss Sharapova for proving me right" :lol:

    Yup, this is what I've been talking about. She perfectly demonstrated how a player can play with both power and finesse instead of just power. If you saw any of those replays of Serena's swings, it should be obvious even to some1 that has never played tennis that her technique is lacking big time.

    Hahahahha it's great to be proven right once again :D
     
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    10 slams later

    So, you still think that you're right
    after 10 slams?
     
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  47. topspin

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    Hey from the time I made that prediction, they haven't won much. I'm actually impressed that it happened so quickly and so decisively.
     
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    This guy is a little delusional. Its okay, we'll just feel sorry for him.
     
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    I still think Justine's the best in the WTA.
     
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    Thank you, Chopin!

    A voice of reason.
     
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