My serve. 100 + MPH with video and radar

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  1. J011yroger

    J011yroger G.O.A.T.

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    Yea, that sucks. What do they say? "If you don't like the weather in Florida, wait 15 minutes and it will change."

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    yeah only when i first started to play which was about 3-4 years ago, only managed to get 95mph and that won the competition for the fastest serve!:confused:
    you should have seen this guys face there when the scores came out, he was so sure that he was going to beat everyone there he only served one that reached 94mph, and left with a BIG smug smile which i flukley took off his face at the end!:grin:
    my serve has come on leaps and bounds since then though, looking forward to getting clocked next time,
    Drak do you ever play a match with the speedo?
    bet it adds to the excitement to serving!
    whats you record serve?
     
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    haha something like that :D
     
  4. drakulie

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    I never played a match with it. I did use it once when I was hitting groundstrokes. A couple forehands were recorded in the high 80's.

    Fastest serve I have ever been measured at was 118 with a professional radar gun that calculates speed at impact. This was when I played in college>>>> many, many years ago. I actually haven't used it in a while because I really haven't been playing since I recorded these vids. But I have met a few guys from the boards and am starting to hit a bit more, and get my rythm back.

    dr punk (from the boards) and I had a real solid hitting session this past weekend. I was hitting some monster forehands. I'm sure they were up there in terms of speed.


    Jo11, you sound miserable with that weather. I feel for you man! :(
    As dr punk said, we were about to have a hit and it started raining. Totally sucks! But I can't complain. Sounds like you are in worse shape than us.


    dr punk, yes I remember that poster. I think it is legit.
     
  5. ibemadskillzz

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    Drauklie you are suppose to finish on the left side of the body and not the right. wtf
     
  6. drakulie

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    Tell that to Boris Becker, Pancho Gonzalez, Stefan Edberg, etc, etc, etc,
     
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    UBOR PWNAGE...

    Ha. Never really get to give you credit drak. Your a very valuable member to the boards, and you have some very nice serves. I can break 80 on a good day..........
     
  8. drakulie

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    ^^^ Thanks man, I appreciate it.

    Keep working on it, you'll get the mph up there. More importantly, work on spin and placement.
     
  9. ibringtheHEAT

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    Well, I'm only 15, and all of my coaches say I need to be more worried about form/technique/yada yada............before I even think about power. I was consistantly making it to the semis in 14's and I have yet to play a tournament in 16's. I'll keep you all posted on how I do, I think I am going to play a tournament in May..........in Texas we are only allowed one ranked tournament a month. We'll all just keep playing tennis, and hope that we improve =]
     
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    Well, I looked out the window, and there is no molten lava falling from the sky, and no -40 temperatures, so I think I am gonna suit up and go try out the radar. 25mph wind gusts should be fun!

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    Well that was a complete waste of time. The wind was constantly blowing, gusting up to 30+. I got pissed and left after 20 min.

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    After a lot of trial and error, I've decided that if the wind is ever over 15 mph (my courts don't have wind screens) I don't even attempt to play tennis.

    I know sometimes that those readings can be misleading but there's nothing more annoying then packing up all your stuff, getting to the courts and then being toyed with by the wind. Once I see the 15 mph winds I just wipe the thought of tennis out of my head and move on with my day.
     
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    Dude, I was as furious as I have ever been on court. I said that the only thing I am going to do is get upset and hurt myself, so I packed up all my stuff and went home.

    J
     
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    I had to play in 20+ mph wind every time we were home and outside last year. Don't let wind discourage you like that. Then when you'll need to play in the wind you won't flip out. Sure, I don't like the wind, I'd rather not play out in 20+ mph wind, but sometimes you can't do anything about it. Actually a lot of time if you want o play serious competitive tennis.
     
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    ^^^ I play in wind frequently. In fact if it is windy all you can do is play. It is however impossible to practice/groove strokes in the wind, which is what I was trying to accomplish.

    I love playing sets/matches in the wind, it is great practice for tournament play. But when you are alone on court trying to groove a stroke, esp a serve, wind is the last thing you want.

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    Another windy overcast lame day. But I decided to fool around with the Speeddrak again after a day of playing. Topped out at 107 today, it is funny how as soon as you put the radar there, and try to hit the ball harder, it doesn't go nearly as fast.

    Guarantee 115 on the Speeddrak on the first warm day. Goal is 120 by the end of the summer.

    J
     
  17. lzclzclzc

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    since the weather is getting nice now, can i be the first to request more videos, possibly a series of serves or a full match
     
  18. ! ! ! ! ronakp10

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    OMG you string at 70!!! How do you not have arm problems?! and with kevlar?!!?!?
     
  19. Bodacious DVT

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    Well drakulie, im sorry to say this but...

    that wasnt a radar gun, it was an alarm clock.
    It must have meant that it was 1:07 in the morning, not 107mph.

    Its ok though, playing tennis that early in the morning can do weird things to you. A similar thing happened to me when I had accidentally mistaken my toaster for a ball machine. you should have seen it popping out flaming balls at me. Scariest thing I've ever seen in my life!


    laughs aside, thats an amazingly sweet serve!
     
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    Hey Drak,

    Aside from the no-readings once in a while, did you find that on occasion the gun spit out strange numbers every now and then?

    One serve in particular, I starched down the T, and the gun said something lame like 77mph.

    For reference, I put it right up against the net maybe 4 inches off the T.

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    Yeah 100mph isn't bad for someone who muscles the ball with their forearm and has no follow through.
     
  23. BigServer1

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    All the critics need to post some vids. Let's see those 120MPH serves...
     
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    I agree! I love how everyone has a 100+mph serve.
     
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    From your name I assume you are from NY. If you are on long island, I will bring the radar and video camera to you, and we will post your serve on the boards. If you hit 120 lunch is on me. If you dont hit 110 you have to make a public apology to Drakulie.

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  26. drakulie

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    Never had any arm problems.


    Every once in a while mine does this too. Not very often though.

    By the way, for or the first day out >>>> 107 isn't bad man. When are you going out again?

    By the way, you definitely need to contact me when you come down for nationals. If anything, we weill go out and cheer you on.
     
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    I am lying about those speeds. Actually I was only able to hit about 65 mph....sorry to disappoint you. This means you actually only hit about 75 mph.
     
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    Thanks for the backup. :)

    By the way, when are you coming down to Miami? We had an awesome time a few weeks ago. 5 of us from the boards met up. YOu need to join us.

    100 mph ain't too hard to obtain from a keyboard. :)
     
  29. tennis_hand

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    this is what I am thinking as well. but well, who knows.
     
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    u probably serve faster than 105 - don't the radar guns in pro matches measure the ball as soon as it leaves the string bed of the racquet?
     
  31. z-money

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    i am a 4.5 and i hit about 110 on my average serve is that good? I have been clocked at 115
     
  32. cam2

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    If you're a 4.5 you shouldn't have to ask that.
     
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    worked pretty well for Becker, Edberg, Pancho Gonzalez, and a countless number of others who are considered some of the greatest servers of all time.

    yes, this radar does not pick up the speeds at contact. It picks up the speed when the ball corsses an area in front of the radar. Those serves are slow by about 3-5 mph. Here is a formula worked on by Maverick1, and Mike Cotrill from the boards. The serve speed is calculated using a formula, which uses number of frames, and distance traveled.

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=99228
     
  34. cam2

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    I'm kinda getting fed up with people just spouting mph they can hit without any proof. Be brave and post a vid of your serve and we'll tell you if it's good, come on it's not that hard to do!
     
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    if i could i would. im just asking because all the 4.5s around here cant hit anything close to mine. and when i play opens i have a hard time so i wanted to know if there are a lot of 4.5s out there who can hit that
     
  36. SlapShot

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    I'm going to order one of those guys soon - I love having a measure of my speed. We went out with a Speed Track a couple of months ago, and I hit 108 and 110 on two serves (that were probably a few inches out), but I'd like to know what I do on a regular basis.

    And I'll post a vid once I have one. I know that I need some work on my mechanics.
     
  37. z-money

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    well some of us are coach. show us the vid and we can help you smoothen it out
     
  38. SlapShot

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    I've been working with a professional coach to tune everything, and my serve has definitely picked up a nastier kick since then. I don't know that I need more pace than I've got right now to play 4.5 - I just prefer to place it with some movement rather than blow people out of the water with my serve.
     
  39. z-money

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    thats fine man. i use both styles. try to keep them guessing you know. But all im saying is we can smoothen it out for ya quick
     
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    You don't seem much like a coach if you have to ask if 110 is good for a 4.5.

    My coach is an "old man" (he's in his 50's), but he's really good still, despite not being able to move as well as he used to.
     
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    well thankx for your opinion. but again i am asking if there are any other people at my level who can hit big serves
     
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    It varies, some 4.5's I play have fairly weak but well placed serves and some can bomb it. I'm just surprised with you saying you're a 4.5 and all that I have to tell you that.
     
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    what is your NTRP?
     
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    To even compare to Becker, Edberg and Gonzales is just laughable.
    100mph is nothing to crow about, it's about as fast as a weak Pro Women's 2nd serve.
     
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    I am impressed that you posted again, usually when you mock someone who posted video, and we call you out on it, saying until you post video or ranking you have no grounds to critisize, you go run and hide from the thread only to mock someone else in another thread.

    Oh, and FYI 100mph is NOT about as fast as a pro womans 2nd serve.

    I know I am wasting my time asking you to post video, or ranking, because from reading your posts, you can not possibly be any good, or have any real experience with professional tennis.

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    Are you nuts!!??
    100 mph is the average speed of the best MALE SERVES 2nd serve (Roddick, Ljubicic, Guccione, Karlovic, Moodie)
     
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    To avoid any arguing, I'll post the serving stats for 2006 USO (a fast surface, so you can't say "oh, it's FO, he's holding him back on serve")

    Roddick (2nd serve average)
    http://2006.usopen.org/en_US/bios/cmatch/ms/atpr485.html

    1st round vs Serra: 98 MPH
    2nd round vs Pless: 102 MPH
    3rd round vs Verdasco: 101 MPH
    4th round vs Becker: 100 MPH
    QF vs Hewitt: 97 MPH
    SF vs Youzhny: 98 MPH
    F vs Federer: 97 MPH

    Ivan Ljubicic
    1st round vs Lopez: 97 MPH (143 fastest serve, 124 1st serve average)

    Ivo Karlovic
    (No stats)

    Wesley Moodie (In my opinion, the best 2nd serve in tour right now)

    1st round vs Mirnyi: No stats
    2nd round vs Monfils: No stats
    3rd round vs Nadal: 109 MPH

    Philippousis averaged 95 MPH in his 1st round loss to Nadal
    A weak female pro 2nd serve... PLEASE!
     
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    If SOMEHOW you find that particular USO wasn't a good proof, here's the 2006 AO stats

    Andy Roddick:
    1st round vs Tsonga: 162 km/h (101 MPH)
    2nd round vs Gicquel: 164 km/h (102 MPH)
    3rd round vs Safin: 167 km/h (104 MPH)
    4th round vs Ancic: 167 km/h (104 MPH)
    QF vs Fish: 160 km/h (100 MPH)
    SF vs Federer: 165 km/h (103 MPH)

    Chris Guccione, who had a tournament high 45 aces against Olivier Rochus, averaged 194 and 157 kmh (121 mph and 96 mph), and his fastest serve was clocked at 225 kmh (140 mph)

    Ivan Ljubicic, averaged 199 kmh and 157 kmh vs Fish (125 mph and 96 mph), clocking the fastest serve at 226 kmh (almost 141 mph)

    This is not subjetive. This is not an opinion. This is not ARGUABLE. These are facts!

    100 mph = A weak female pro's 2nd serve!? MY *** !!!
     
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    And to make it even BETTER, let's look for the BEST female SERVERS 2nd serve

    Sharapova:
    1st round: 133 kmh (83 MPH)
    2nd round: 141 km/h (88 MPH)
    3rd round: 136 km/h (85 MPH)
    4th round: 139 km/h (86 MPH)
    Quarterfinals: 136 km/h (85 MPH)
    Semifinals: 143 km/h (89 MPH)
    Final: 139 kmh (86 MPH)

    Serena Williams:
    1st round: 135 km/h (84 MPH)
    (though Santangelo outserved her with a 148 2nd serve)

    2nd round: 131 km/h (81 MPH)
    3rd round: 136 km/h (85 MPH)
    (Petrova outserved her with 139 kmh)

    4th round: 133 km/h (83 MPH)
    (Outserved again, Jankovic with 136)

    Quarterfinals: 138 km/h (86 MPH)
    Semifinals: 141 km/h (88 MPH)
    (Vaidisova also passed her: 149 km/h)

    Final: 149 kmh (93 MPH) (damn fast for a 2nd serve average)
     
  50. SlapShot

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    Andres -

    AJK1 is a troll. Don't fall into the trap of even replying to him - he feeds on that.

    He gets off on spewing filth on these boards. If he didn't, he'd actually be able to go out and play tennis, and would have a productive hobby.

    But those are some good stats for everyone to look at.
     

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