My Serve (in Pics)

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  1. Meaghan

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    Will sort a video out soon but for now I thought Id post some pics of my serving action, taken from a few serves (sorry about the footfault in pic3 !!)
    Would be interested in your thoughts...........

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    S**t thought id posted this in tips section !!!!! how do i move thread ????
     
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    My thoughts.....you pulled the hemp fibers out of yout Bastcore racquet and smoked them, causing you to post this in the racquets section rather than where it belongs.
     
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    I know....what a proper lemon i am :shock:

    Will the mods move it for me if i ask kindly ?
     
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    Well, motion looks pretty good to me. If anything, to me it looks like you drop your tossing arm a little too early and lose some shoulder rotation and diagonal positioning. But that could just be a result of the pictures
     
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    yeah interesting point, I will have a look at that. I also think that foto 5 shows me on the edge of my jump and my arm falls for leverage. I will try and dig out another foto that may show my motion between pics 4 and 5.
     
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    Looks solid to me in all areas.
    Kinda the new DJ thing with the extended racketarm on backswing, then pulling it in close to bent elbow.
    Forward movement.
    High elbow finish.
    Good extension.
    How good is your serve?
     
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  11. Djokovicfan4life

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    I notice your racquet face is slightly open when you arrive at the trophy position (of course, as you know, this isn't a conscious position when you have a smooth continuous motion like yourself). Not exactly the devil, but something simple that you could address.
     
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    yeah I think it was Navratilova i looked at when i was young, the Wawrinka serve is closest now in a kind of "W" motion, my racket arm is slightly delayed now tho.

    How good is my serve, its pretty good sir, at 6ft4 and 175lbs I get my fair share of free points :)
     
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    probably because my grip is open (pic1) and im generating a lot of spin. I remember the serve when the fotos were took, it moved from right to left and landed a few inches from the T in the deuce box.
     
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    That's fair, should've noticed that.
     
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    Also if i look at that pic the racket face seems parallel with the service line so its pretty on the money. I did notice it myself tho when my coach took the fotos.......
     
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    How dare anyone of you post advice. Only JS #1 shall post, all move aside and stay quite.

    Sorry JS, I had to razz you. :)
     
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    Who's JS? does this stem from that other thread in this section......?
     
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    If you're 6'4 then half the battle is already won. :)
     
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    Sorry, I didn't mean to derail your thread. I will not post anymore regarding that.

    You seem to have good form. What kind of thoughts were you looking for? Is there a specific aspect of your serve you want to fix/improve?
     
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    Yeah its great for serving but crap for dancin' :)
     
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    At least it's good for the useful stuff. You'll never have to post the typical "missing first serve just long" thread.
     
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    Its a good point i suppose i was looking to see if anyone could identify anything i could improve on that i couldn't see already. Im very analytical anyway so it would be interesting. I also wanted to show my service action, im very happy with it and its my biggest weapon.
     
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    Ah but what about "not throwing the ball high enough" thread which does Infact result in the above thread :)
     
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    Toss is plenty high, it drops 3' before you hit the ball.
    You have time to bend elbow more during ball flight, and low toss doesn't allow this.
     
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    Good serve! The motion looks good, but try getting a video as that way we can help you with more in-depth analysis
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    Yeah totally agree. Its just i do have some off days when my left hand has an inability to throw the ball where i want it to go. Tbh i recently made a conscious effort to throw the ball higher and it has made a big improvement in my 1st serve % and consistency.
     
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    Thanks fed will try and sort it. In a couple of tourneys coming up I'll try and get my friend to vid some of the games.
     
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    Yes, he does drop the left arm early.

    Good observation!

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    Yeah, I have the same thing and sometimes my contact point is way lower than 6'2 with long arms should be. Of course, I could just not hit bad tosses, but you know.
     
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    maybe this foto should be between 4 & 5. As i said before foto 5 is on the edge of lift off rising up from my knee bend......

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    again apologies for the footfault :)
     
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    The slight footfault reminds me, perhaps the extreme pinpoint stance is limiting your upper body rotation. You can only turn so far when your right leg is along side your left or as the above pic shows, even a little in front of it.
     
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    Now Thats rather interesting as my bread and butter slider serve can sometimes go amiss and i really have to concentrate on twisting through my core. I am extremely double jointed so it shouldn't bother me too much but........

    I've had a problem with my right foot coming over and I've been working on resolving the problem.......now and again tho!!

    Cheers :)
     
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    Nice serves. I dont see the brushing of the ball to see whether you can serve a topspin serve with similar flow. Being tall makes it easy to smash fat serve but again I play with a guy of similar height as you and serve motion too. Unless he puts spin on his serve the flat serve he hits can be returned with power. One reason i guess is my flat serve say low because am 5.9 but in your case even flat serve will bounce into the hitting zone of a player of my height. Aagin at my heigh i cannot hit flat serve with same consistency as you.
    So if you are not already adding spin to your serve then add it to be a lethal server.
     
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    Please don't interfere with Mr. Andre's Post.

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    Looks to me that you are well forward before the swing, meaning that your service motion moves you back, moves forward to a second position , and then you serve from that second position. It is really common because people read about how they should move forward through the serve. For better power, delay this forward movement (i.e., so your forward movement are not used up before you ever swing!). I like to think that you start swinging well to the right and back of the ball but your service motion moves your body back to the ball.
     
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    Yeah it does bounce up depending on surface but you would have to take into account whether you can get your racket on it. As for being 5'9 my topspin serve will be bouncing over your head :)

    Seriously tho i have a friend who is one of my clubs best players. He has great athletic ability and the fastest serve at our club. But its his American twist second serve that kicks sideways and over my head. He is 5'9......
     
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    i dont think you have looked at the initial images........:confused:
     
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    Looks mighty good to me... but the man you really want commenting is the technique-meister himself, tricky!


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    Cheers rossy and who is this mysterious man?
     
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    ^^^^^^^^^^ Someone who spots things that no one else on the board has the eyes or knowledge to spot. Sometimes it gets a bit complicated, but he tells what's wrong, why it's wrong, and how to fix it (usually involves standing on one foot, or the "one foot drill" as he calls it).
     
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  42. Meaghan

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    its a good point you make although that image is not before the swing its mid swing on the point of moving into the air. Im actually in the process of moving forward from my leap mid way thro my swing.

    If you stop this at 1:28 secs you'll find a very similar position http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkgZOvm7ySA
    20 secs here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuAL_0UH_Wc
    17 secs here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GFkqD7GBZQ
    10 secs here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GFkqD7GBZQ

    I often S&V so I am way in the court when i land too.......

    Maybe the image is misleading......
     
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