My stringing business... Website progress. Comments?

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  1. struggle

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    having worked with engineers alot, this has to be the biggest falsehood in this thread. what works on paper often does not work in the field/practice, but you can't tell an engineer that because most have never tried to actually apply their voodoo. most don't know which end of a screwdriver to hold.

    not speaking for diredesire or ALL engineers, just speaking from experience.
     
  2. zapvor

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    really? most engineers i know are pretty good at what they do. they may not know about screwdrivers, but they can calculate the torque range for a screwdriver tool for when you are changing your flat
     
  3. diredesire

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    Eh, there are people who are good at math/science so they fit the engineering 'stereotype,' but as tbuggle said, the book smarts don't always translate into the practical smarts. The people who did best in my engineering classes were classically smart, but tended to fail in the lab when things didn't go according to plan. You've gotta have a balance of both, IMO. We're way off topic though :oops:
     
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    Off topic? The OP dropped out of this thread a year and a half ago. :)
    I wonder how he's doing?
     
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    Blame tennisdude for resurrecting the thread.

    I totally agree. There are engineers that can't fix thier own cars.
     
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    For some reason, people have the impression engineers can fix everything from cars to airplanes to the national debt. We are trained in very specific disciplines. In my field, we design projects and go out to bid where a General Contractor handles construction (and all other hands on type stuff).
     
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    staying off topic...

    uh...you don't need an engineer for something as basic as that. :confused: that's what a torque wrench is for. a torque wrench is easily purchased at a store that sells tools. ;)
     
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  8. zapvor

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    lol who do you think designed that torque wrench? a monkey?
     
  9. Tennusdude

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    Well Shakespeare put a line in one of his plays, "The first thing we do is kill all the lawyers."

    As far as the engineers, they operate like Micky D's. What they build kills you 50-70 years later when it collapses. You cant really prove its their fault.

    Just like Mc donalds hamburgers, who can prove it was the hamburgers that gave you a heart attack or colon cancer. Could have been the broccoil
     
  10. mikeler

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    In 50 years "it" should be replaced.
     
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    I agree with this, to me they SEEM to be quite stubborn.
     
  12. zapvor

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    yea things arent engineered to last forever
     
  13. mad dog1

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    What about the pyramids in egypt, the great wall in china and stonehenge?
     
  14. zapvor

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    i think the monkeys worked on those
     
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    Well...... It looks like we need to break into the zoo, who's willing to be an accessory to the crime? Because I'm totally NOT the lawyer type.... :twisted:
     
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    So, how many 50-70 year cycles have you been around to come about this theory? Who would you suggest design bridges and buildings then, pharmacists? Any design is only as good as the knowledge and materials available at the time. This is why there is classically a rift between architects and engineers. The architect wants to design something, but the engineers hired must ensure that it is feasible and can be made with what's available at the time. Even Da Vinci knew this which is why although many, many of his designs have now been built and verified to work with modern materials, they would have failed using what was around at the time. Frank Lloyd Wright, one of the most brilliant architects to have lived, pushed the boundaries of engineering. He was not an idiot, and he knew that the majority of his designs wouldn't work. Even his most famous, Fallingwater, had to be restored because it was literally collapsing. Had it been built today, however, it would not have been. It was in fact built about 70 years ago when the structural engineering knowledge to make everything work was not yet known, and was only restored to his specs starting in the 90s. I'm not even defending engineers since I know so many idiots with engineering degrees who can only pass exams and don't know how to put theory into practice. It is simply asinine to say that the building you're sitting there typing in is going to kill someone in 50 years.
     
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    maybe those monkeys know how to use torque wrenches too
     
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    The engineer doth protest too much, methings

    The quotation "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." comes from Shakespeare's Hamlet, Act III, scene II, where it is spoken by Queen Gertrude, Hamlet's mother. The phrase has come to mean that one can "insist so passionately about something not being true that people suspect the opposite of what one is saying."[1] The phrase is often misquoted as "Methinks the lady doth protest too much"[2] and is commonly used in the second person as "Methinks thou dost protest too much."

    Furthermore, the above meaning is based on a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "protest" as it was used in Shakespeare's day, as the "protest" of the lady is not a protest in the modern sense of the word, but an affirmation or avowal.[3]

    The phrase's actual meaning implies the increasing likelihood of suppressed feelings for the contrary of that which is being argued. I.e., the more passionate and fervent the argument, the greater likelihood the cause is a suppression of belief for the contrary argument, and the subsequent confirmation that it is the (actual) truer statement.

    The phrase is used frequently today. For example, a 2000 episode of the television program Moesha was titled "He Doth Protest Too Much". An unaired episode of the television program Out of Practice was titled "The Lady Doth Protest Too Much". Andrew Klavan wrote an article for the Los Angeles Times in 2006 called "Clinton Doth Protest Too Much."[4] Alanis Morissette wrote a song named "Doth I Protest Too Much", for her album So-Called Chaos. In Venus in Fur, the Tony Award nominated play by David Ives, the mysterious Vanda proclaims "Methinks the lady doth protest too much!" as she pries for information regarding Thomas' defensiveness about his sexual past. In the recent block buster The Iron Lady documenting the life of British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher an opposition MP uses the phrase "Me thinks the lady doth screech to loud," reflecting anti feminist tendencies in the House of Commons in the 1970s.
     
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    DUH! They made them...
     
  20. zapvor

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    lol all our posts are going to be deleted in 48hrs
     
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    That's why I'm posting lol :D
     

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