my strokes (5.5) if interested

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  1. shojun25

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    All I can say is wow. If that is 5.5 level, I have a long way to go ;)

    You have a lot of topspin on your forehand and your backhand is pretty powerful as well as consistent.

    Good luck on future tourneys.
     
  2. Harry

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    forehands: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRj1mV6n-VU

    if tony or anyone can provide insight...

    the shot at :59, did you take the ball a little late on that one? I have a bad habit of letting the ball drop from its highest point before i make contact, and that makes the ball fly far. So for that shot, was it late? I hope I made a correct assumption because it will help improve my game.
     
  3. Slazenger

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    Exactly.

    I hope some of the peope talking about mechanical have played against a 6.0 player before.

    I did so earlier this week.
    Well against a retired pro(who shall remain nameless bcoz of what I'm about to say) who had a bad career and really struggled with getting injuries because his mechanics are bad and he REALLY muscles the ball to get a lot of pace. If you saw him play you would think he was a 3.5. 4.0 on his best day.
    He is black.

    Well, one thing you can't really judge when watching someone is weight of ball and his was HEAVY. Ridiculous topspin drives on both the forehand and the backhand.
    Consistency and accuracy despite his strokes. He may muscle them but he has learnt how to muscle his ball consistently and accurately.
    He beat me HANDILY.

    I'm pretty certain just watching TonLars play that he would do the same to A LOT of people on this thread including me.

    Give it a rest.
     
  4. TonLars

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    When I first saw your post I assumed you saw a ball I may have hit late off of a hard hit shot, or a mishit or something. But what I see you mean now is that I let it drop a little more than usual, rather than as you said take it at its highest point. This was just a shorter and slower moving ball and I hit it at a lower point than most of the other shots, which wasnt a problem since I just hit that particular one with a bit more spin to clear the net and such. But youre definitely right, Ideally you do not want to let the ball drop, especially on shorter balls, and instead anticipate these and move up quickly. Getting up to the ball and taking it higher rather than lazily getting to hit and taking it lower makes the difference between being able to hit an offensive or defensive shot in that situation. Hope that answered or helped you
     
  5. Anton

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    np,

    There is nothing in the well trained long strokes that is counter to ball being consistent or deep or going from corner to corner, on most of the strokes you took you had way more time then you needed to prepare and spent most of it just waiting for it. Of course in the actual game time is usually tighter. Often in the game I catch myself going back to shorter swings and have to force myself to lengthen them again (with good results usually)

    but yea, definitely, transitions are tough and sometimes a demoralizing step back is taken to take two forward.

    The slice I too neglected heavily, but as I'm trying to incorporate it more into my game I found it a good way to switch the game up on your opponent who is getting a little to comfortable with your top spin and keeps to the baseline - frustrations abound as I suddenly pull out slices and he keeps missing those short balls he has to take on last second run. He comes in a little more and it is again back to regularly scheduled fast topspin balls into far corners.

    BTW my avatar is how not to prepare for the slice :) The left hand should be all the way up by the head, pulling the right hand to bent in, while the elbow stays.
     
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  6. drakulie

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    Uhhmm, ever heard of Schalken? Doesn't get any more "robotic" than that, and the great Agassi himself has said he had some of the best strokes on tour.

    Oh, and by the way, TonLars has some awesome strokes>> just look at where those shots are landing, and the consistency. maybe you should try and learn something from his "robotic" looking strokes.
     
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    ^^^ Anton, what level player are you? If you can thump, maybe we can meet half way like at the NTC, or if you wanna take a ride to Eisenhower, there are a bunch of us on the weekends.

    J
     
  8. Anton

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    Eisenhower? where is that?

    I am a Solid 4.0 transitioning to 4.5

    Unfortunately my game is well behind my theory
    I've only been hitting with any sort of regularity for about 1 year and only now truly feel I found a frame to fit my game well on all fronts (and thank god too, after messing around with about 20 different frames :))

    I have a lot of stuff to work on before I'd drive out of Staten Island (thats NYC btw) for a good tennis match. Give me another year thou :grin:
     
  9. stormholloway

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    Yeah, people considered Lendl robotic too. Now he's polishing his trophies with his robot arms.

    Strokes for the OP look solid. Consistency is obviously his game. Well done. I wish I was that consistent... and not completely out of shape.
     
  10. zapvor

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    the big thing i noticed was how fast your takeback was. you were ready way before the ball even bounced! thanks for the vids.
     
  11. 35ft6

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    Ronald Agenor? But it can't be. I've seen him play and his strokes look nothing like any 4.0's I've ever seen.
     
  12. wings56

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    I don't know if I'm doing well yet......Hopefully things will be better next year, it was quite a shift from junior tennis to college, but I think I will be ready for next year. I should also be able to get a redshirt for this year because I played so few matches. Oh yeah, and I play for Lamar University...lol
     
  13. MTXR

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    it looks like you have a hitch in the ground strokes.
     
  14. TonLars

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    My old forehand you mean. It looks like you didnt watch the backhand;)
     
  15. TENNIS_IS_FUN

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    Good Lord i just watched your short angeled forehands....would be illegal in a doubles match :O
     
  16. fearless1

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    Lots of people still posting about your strokes and recommending changes in that part of your game. I don't know about you, but to make changes to the strokes now would set your ATP goals back an unacceptable period of time. Also, if "it ain't broke, don't fix it". Plus, it's not strokes that need fixing. IMO, your game could use a very effective net game added to it if you are truly lacking one.

    Look familiar...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEFvYMpuJLI

    Your strokes won't look the same moslty because you grip your racquet differently. JC's left hand grip is a weak eastern (almost continental) and he uses this one grip for both his fh and 2hb groundstrokes, volleys, and skyhook overhead. Enough with strokes...

    So, what's your gameplan for improving your tennis? Are you going to try to improving your existing method even more? For example, better placement on the serve with more heat too. Not so obvious in the videos is your shotmaking at critical times in a point...passing shots, winners from the baseline in general, as well as how your handle things defensively and counter offensively too. How often do you inadvertantly hit short balls? If you can't hit most of your baseline shots deep into your opponent's court as well as hit critical shots a high percentage of the time at will, then perhaps your ground game still has room for improvement.

    I think you'll agree that to make that ATP Top 500* ranking, you are going to need as many tennis skill in the book you can master to make it (*just toning down the ATP goals a bit for now!). A net game will take pressure off your baseline game while also enhancing your ability to win more points faster too. In fact, a very solid baseline game will make a net game even more effective. In the end, you'll end up with an "all court" game. How's your approach shots?

    Do you have a good support base of friends and family to help you with your pursuits? Have you found the right kind of coach that will help you make the needed improvements to your game (not to your strokes)? You secured a sponsor(s) or are you independently wealthy!? :D
     
  17. knasty131

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    HAHA!!! I've practiced with and played against Daniel Omana. He can be very deceiving....he can hit big and also grind out points, a contender to almost anyone out there...cept the pros maybe lol
     
  18. Venetian

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    Wow instead of hanging your head and walking away you come back with another dumb comment.
     
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    Something about the videos... the quality of the rallies just look several notches below 5.5. Maybe it's your partner that's bad, but after watching many people hit, you just don't seem to have the fluidity that players who have played at high levels have. Like one of the guys above commented how amazed he was at how fast you take your racket back. That kinda reminds me of how recreational coaches would tell their students once they see the return, take the racket straight back and fast. High level players seldom do that, they seldom take their racket straight back and wait in that position for a bit every time. It kills momentum and looks so stiff and rookie-ish.


    The other big thing I noticed is how you are standing right on the baseline and yet have so much time to prepare for every shot. Almost all of your partner's shot don't have great depth, are high bouncing and slow, while I can't see where your shots are landing.

    Like this guy stands so much furthur from the baseline. I think this is more of the right distance if both players are hitting good quality shots.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDWm70SX450&NR=1
    or even this guy
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idgTniAGCoM&mode=related&search=


    Like you said, your strength is probably your speed and a counterpunching game and maybe even your serves and height.
     
  20. MTXR

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    I did. Seems like you got a hitch on both wings.
     
  21. TonLars

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    I agree, and also agree the net game should be something I think more about. As Ive said before, while there are definitely some things I could do to improve power using more of my body, my strokes are technically sound now, as my forehand is at the same level as my backhand. Baseline is simply what I do well, I dont want to sound arrogant but thats my game. Many good players and coaches tell my dad or I and realize I have the athletic ability and got the strokes to hit with anyone, but there is plenty holding me back unfortunately. This video is just a drill of consistency, so of course it doesnt show much as you and other people have mentioned, but it should show that the strokes are solid. So really to improve to answer your question, mainly what I said in an earlier post. I honestly could improve alot because my serve is lacking alot and my net game is only average to finish points on the offensive. And although my strokes are fairly solid, I need to still work on getting better at playing aggressively, and that aspect has improved alot since two years ago when this was filmed. So youre right, I definitely need to develop those things you are talking about more, even approach shots as im more comfortable banging at the baseline rather than coming in. I dont have a coach unfortunately and really have never been coached beyond when I first started playing:-( so its all about hard work and experience for me. Fortunately though I have the means where if Im doing well in the Futures this summer, my family could afford to let me get to more tournaments to keep going and see how I do. A sponsor would be nice though as I know of plenty of people that have that help, but I am not sure of how to go about it myself. I am not anticipating much because its late in the game for me, but I am going to see how it goes. To me, going beyond Futures would be really surprising. Right now my goal is to qualify for a main draw.

    Its not really a rally and definitely not a point, because the other guy is just hitting me free and slow balls as you noticed. We were being taped, taking turns, to analyze our shots and so I guess the other person not being filmed was just going to hit them "nicely" without any pressure so the filmer could do so efficiently. When it was the other guys turn, I too was hitting him easy balls as well. In a rally things would definitely be sped up. Hope that clarifies things for you.
    But I still am confused because for the most part, especially backhand, I myself was ripping the ball, trust me. They were deep, cross court, and I only missed a couple balls total in all 4 video segments. Also, I must tell you the early take-back is very important. Any good or pro player does that as well. My stroke is just a straight back style instead of a loop, which really doesnt matter. The players with a loop come to the same position that I am in before hitting the shot. Again as I said before, fortunately that is ingrained in me because I was taught good form on the backhand right from when I began tennis, and that is why my backhand doesnt have anything wrong with it. However, I acknowledge my coaches and posters on here who state I could be using more legs and rotation for power, and I will think about that. I only wish I had the same instruction for all the other parts of my game though, which I have developed myself through watching, learning, trial and error over the years.

    Tell me exactly what the hitch is on the backhand. Forehand I understand and I dont have that anymore. But the backhand, I really can do anything I want with it so if I have a hitch then so be it because it matters not.
     
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  22. couch

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    Hey Tony. You're are a brave sole posting your 5.5 strokes on the TW Message Boards. You have a lot of people on here who don't have a clue as to what they are talking about when it comes to tennis.

    You're definitely a 5.5 if not higher just based on your record in college alone. I mean come on, you were 48-3 at #1 Singles so you must be doing something right. LOL

    As far as I'm concerned your strokes look great. Sounds like you've made some adjustments to your forehand since the first video was made and I'm sure it's up to par with your backhand now. I would say the two main things at high-level tennis is having a weapon and consistency. You, without a doubt, have the consistency. What a lot of these posters don't understand is that you are drilling so your strokes are going to be a little less fluid because you're hitting crosscourt on everyball even though it might not be the right shot based on the ball you're receiving. I'm sure your strokes look a lot more fluid in a real match situation.

    And it's also hard for 3.5/4.0 and even some 4.5 players to accurately judge high-level players and their strokes. Even I have a hard time sometimes and I'm a 5.0. So again, as I'm sure you know, you have to take some of these posts with a grain of salt.

    All I have to say is good luck in your tourneys or whatever you decide to do with your tennis.
     
  23. Harry

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    thanks, tony. I appreciate it. I just need to improve my footwork so that I can get to the ball before it gets to its highest point.
     
  24. BounceHitBounceHit

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    Well said, Couch.

    Your strokes are FINE. For Heaven's Sake don't let these guys get you thinking about stroke mechanics, especially since I doubt there's one amongst them who could win a game from you. ;)

    Your goals now are more about training to withstand the grind of the Tour. You need to be ultra-fit physically and mentally strong, especially because the travel and all that comes with it can be very stressful.

    I wish you the best.

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  25. chrisdaniel

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    great stuff man. great tennis
     
  26. iamke55

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    I don't think this is the place to post videos of yourself if you want good comments. On this board you pretty much have to have Federer-like strokes to be considered anything above a 4.5, and even if they are almost as effective as his shots, they still have to also look fluid and pretty to go above 5.5. For example, by the standards here, Andy Roddick has maybe a 6.5 serve(muscle the ball and lacking placement and easy to read), a 6.0 forehand(not fluid motion and way too big of a backswing), a 4.5 backhand(jerky motion and ugly and -1 for hitting it with 2 hands), 4.5 volleys(not natural looking), 2.5 court strategy(get his serve back in and you've basically won the point), and many people here and the entire top 100 can beat him except he always gets easy draws and only wins because he relies on his easily readable, 6.5 serve. To give you an idea of comparison, Richard Gasquet by these criteria has a 7.0 for every shot, and is actually a more talented and far more skilled player, despite win-loss record and ranking differences.
     
  27. kevhen

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    Having seen Tony Larson play in person, I would say he is a very high 5.0 due to his footspeed, consistency, depth, and placement. He does have an official 5.0 USTA rating. He hits topspin on both sides and plays a steady baseliner style hitting mostly crosscourt with some pace and decent spin. Has a slightly better and bigger forehand that he can hit winners with. Can slice when in trouble to stay in the points and can finish at net with angles if you try to dropshot him as he uses his speed to get there early. His serve has depth and kick and consistency, around 100mph, not a strength but not a weakness. His volley is ok but not his strength either. He is not a big guy so he relies on his speed to stay in points and frustrate opponents. He beats most all 5.0s he plays but does lose to most 5.5s (good D1 players) if you check his record from the last few years and also from the 2 matches that I watched of him this past weekend in Waterloo where he cashed in to the semis for $150 in prize money.

    Good kid who plays with intensity throughout the entire match which frustrates many bigger harder hitting opponents. I have a big serve but I have a feeling he would beat me like 6-1, 6-0. I would need to attack every chance and try to keep the points short if possible. He would get used to my serve and my slice approaches and then I would be in big trouble but then I am just 4.0/4.5.

    Tony's 2007 results
    http://tennislink.usta.com/leagues/...003343A8E0F42485941B2A59780FAE1C0D&CYear=2007

    Kevin's 2007 results
    http://tennislink.usta.com/leagues/...DB0039BDE7D03536B584FB2A09783F7E1C&CYear=2007

    My only suggestions for Tony would be to develop a slice serve to go with his kick serve and also maybe drop the racquet head lower on the backhand side with a more fluid motion takeback, but he is almost 2 levels higher in skill than me, so he doesn't need my advice. He plays the game very well and usually hits the right shots at the right time. Occasionally he goes for too much with the forehand or doesn't lift the backhand up enough to clear the net but those are rare occurences. Fun to watch him rally all day.

    He has a cool, sweet girlfriend and his dad can hit a rather steady ball. Best of luck to Tony in all future matches.
     
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  28. aliengrowing

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    Very nice man, thanks for posting these high level vids. They give me a lot more confidence in myself. It shows you dont have to conform to one style of play after some rating.
     
  29. AngeloDS

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    Nice footwork, terrible looking strokes but effective =p. Lol, but good stuff. For me, personally I feel your early take back really inhibits your ability to "sync" your stroke with your body and produce a much more powerful shot with much more spin. However, that is my opinion =p.
     
  30. bad_call

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    Tony - nice strokes man. it's hard to see how a player does in matches when only watching practice but i think you should hold your own. btw - how is your serve and return? good luck.
     
  31. DavaiMarat

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    Some good stuff but the only thing I could suggest is the backhand could use a little more fluidity. Like your forehand, you shouldn't begin the swing until the ball is almost bouncing, you should try to emulate this on your backhand. Not saying your backhand is mechanically bad it's just in terms of timing and power you probably wouldn't need to bludgeon the ball like you do.

    Take the racquet back higher, let gravity drop the racquet head down and bring it up in a C loop. More power, less effort, more spin = more control.

    Keep up the good work. I'm a 5.0-5.5 myself. Except I'm not as quick as you anymore, getting old and sticking to developing youngsters like yourself.

    Cheers,

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    do you always take your racket back that early on the backhand? or is it just because you have time to set up? I would imagine it would hinder your movement a little if you brought your racket back that early all the time.

    I don't doubt you're rating though specially with a 48-3 record.
     
  33. princess bossass

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    Wow, I wish my racquet made that sound every single time *I* hit the ball :D

    No comments (I'm in no position to offer "feedback" or whatnot), but a couple questions:

    I didn't have time to read the whole thread, but I agree with the person who said your early preparation on the backhand reminded them of Venus Williams. Also, she, like you, doesn't prepare nearly as early on her forehand. For her her forehand is the less reliable stroke, but from the vid your forehand seemed solid as hell, though maybe (?) not as penetrating as your backhand. Is there a specific reason you prepare earlier on your backhand than your forehand? Is it conscious, or unconscious? Which is your preferred stroke?
     
  34. Nick b

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    dude ur shots are so ugly and crude u might hit the ball in but u play like my gran.
     
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    And could probably beat you 0 and 0.
     
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    What were you hoping to achieve by posting this? Because if loosing the respect of most every high level player on here who knows how good Tony is was your goal, then you have done it.

    J
     
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    He's hoping if he keeps posting thread like the one he posted the mods will finally give in to his request to change his User name from Nick b to Nick Moron. :p
     
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    Winning 3 points each set.
     
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    I think you meant 3 points total
     
  40. Andres

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    Naaah, I'm being nice here. 48 pts to 6 sounds good to me. We shouldn't crush his self esteem that much :)
     
  41. FiveO

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    Yeah, I don't think TonLars is at all concerned with the critiques offered by those w/o the foundation or experience to make them. In fact I think the OP is both having a little laugh to himself at their expense and showing class by not saying more directly what he feels about those comments. Like another poster alluded to you have to get pretty good at this game before you have an inkling just how limited you are.

    His results more than the clips speak volumes and the clips show enough. He knows better than most here that the next level will expose any relative weaknesses which may be in his game and that they will need to be improved or they will be exposed at the next level or the level above that.

    Those "critics" should learn from both the OP's clips if for no other reason than the footwork he demonstrates, but moreso for his honest, objective self-evaluation and acknowledgement that even at his level he is striving to address minor weak points which he knows could be exposed at the next levels.

    Thanks for posting TonLars, it's a shame that some of the "critics" aren't taking more from this thread.

    I wish TonLars continued improvement and success. He, better than almost anyone else here, knows what it will take those next steps and is obviously committed to it.
     
  42. Ultra2HolyGrail

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    Thats one thing that sucks about tennis at these levels. Little money to be made. Most will play just for rank and flat out enjoyment of competing. It would be sweet to have prize money at all ntrp and open levels. Although the sandbagging players would come out of nowhere.
     
  43. GRANITECHIEF

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    Many of the Open tourneys do have prize moneys and the sandbaggers do comeout to attempt to bag it. If i was one, i would too.
     
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    ahhhhh... jealous people... I'd like you to beat that little crap

    Nice hits Tony....
     
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    Lol yea. But many open tourneys dont have prize money. No ntrp do as far as i'm aware.
     
  46. kevhen

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    Tony took home $150 in last weekend's open tourney. Almost covered his costs to drive the 5 hours down.
     
  47. MTXR

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    How come he doesn't post updated video?
     
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    I wonder if Tony has ever played much on clay. It looks like he'd be an even better player on clay courts than he is on hard courts.
     
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    Yes, I would agree that Tony would be perfect for clay. Very consistent game and great speed to run balls down. Not many clay courts in the mid-west though! I would think he woud be 5.5 on clay as his ground game is that consistent.
     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2007
  50. volleyandfun

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    If you are 5.5 (on these videos I assume), how would you assess your progress from being 5.0, say your skills are so much better, or your consistency is, or your movement , in other words what did most contribute to that 0.5 step up?
     

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