My tennis video .. Rate me!

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  1. SpEeDyZ

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    Hey :D
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAzL7COzifA
    Ok so this is my tennis video that I am gonna send to all the US colleges that I have applied to. I am not applying as a tennis recruit but more like a future recruit or something.. I am basically hoping to get in based on my academics but I thought sending this video might help...

    so the video is hitting till the 7th minute then a few volleys, overheads and then a few serves...

    My volley sucked in this video but I have improved on the technique a lot since then and now its a LOT better...

    other than that please rate my game :D

    I have been playing for around 3 years

    Also my serve seems so weird (that left leg) so any tips on that? Or is it fine?


    Thanks!
     
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  2. loosegroove

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    Honestly, that's not a very good video (not speaking of the tennis itself) nor is it really relevant to admissions in colleges. Most admission reps have tons of applications to sort through, and won't have time to check out a random 10 plus minute tennis video of a 4.0 player, nor will it matter to them. And with the shaky camera work ongoing repetition it doesn't really represent you that well. If you're interested in playing tennis at the schools, it would probably be better to contact the coaches and see if they're interested in seeing your video. If they are impressed, then they'll pull for you with admissions.
     
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  3. Ash_Smith

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    Dude...have you not learned from other threads like this - you're gonna get rated from 2.0 to 5.0 and everything in between!!! Getting any kind of meaningful rating on here is near impossible - it's been known for a certain poster to rate two guys playing Futures as 3.5's at best!!!

    If you've ony been playing 3 years then you're doing fine! Good Luck with college apps.

    Cheers

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    AND BTW, good luck with everything. With your strong academics you'll definitely have plenty of choices available to you. I wish I hadn't been such a slacker in high school.
     
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  5. SpEeDyZ

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    well yes that is what I meant when I said I'd be sending this to the US colleges.. I'll be sending it to their tennis coaches....

    and thanks :)

    again I am basically hoping to get in based on my academics only this is only like a plus to my application ...


    P.S I am still a beginner learning and trying out new stuff so all the criticism is welcome :)
     
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  6. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    1) You twirl your racquet way too much, even for a rallying session. But hey if you're comfortable with that, go for it. In a faster rally/match, the ball may come back before you're done twirling.

    2) Your forehand uses a lot of arm. Again if you're comfortable with that, keep at it. But if you can use more body, it'll be better.

    3) Racquet-back on the backhand happens sort of late. And again, not enough body, a lot of arm. You also finish your backhand with the weight behind you, it should be in front of you.
     
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  7. SpEeDyZ

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    alright thanks will surely work on those points :)
     
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    When you volley, think about volleying more with your feet than with your racquet. It looked to me like you were focusing on the short swing and not getting any body weight behind the ball. Footwork doesn't end at the baseline--- you need to be more active with your feet at net.
     
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  9. J_R_B

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    Your strokes are pretty good. If you go to a D3 school, you should be able to play on their team, especially if you keep improving. D1 is probably unrealistic.

    Also, you need to invest in a tripod. The first 5 minutes of that video is like the Blair Witch Plays Tennis.
     
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  10. SpEeDyZ

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    alright thank you both for your comments and J R B well since I am not exactly applying as a tennis recruit if I get in a Div 1 college based on my academics do you think I'll be able to play on their team. I mean not as a freshman but maybe some time later. And how does this work like do they allow students to become a part of their team as in train with them but only let them play until they are good enough? or do you have to train by yourself and try out for the team when you become good enough ?

    also with my academics and this level of tennis do you think I am strong candidate for admission in the top US colleges.. for engineering ?

    Thanks!

    'The first 5 minutes of that video is like the Blair Witch Plays Tennis.'
    Haha will do :)
     
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  11. dozu

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    ^^ what JRB said.

    should be good for D3, maybe even D2, just on strokes.... but if you have only played 3 years, there is good news and bad news.

    good news is you have some tennis talent, to get to this shape after 3.

    bad news you are lacking in the experience department.. coaches will want to know how your game holds up in tournaments.
     
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  12. SpEeDyZ

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    well yes I think I am gonna agree with you on that I do have a tough time playing my natural game on major tournaments but I think if I keep playing and If I start to play at college level that will hopefully go away...

    so good/mediocre academics + this level of tennis = a strong candidate for top US colleges ?
     
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    film from behind. so we can see not only your swing but also the flight/placement of the ball.

    your swings look not bad but we can't say anthing about your depth, consistency and spin.
     
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  14. dozu

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    teams usually have walk-on try outs even if you are not admitted for tennis as a freshman.

    have you talked to any coaches? better go straight to the source :)
     
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  15. SpEeDyZ

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    well I have emailed all the coaches (this video) waiting for their reply and I was asking like if they consider me not good enough to play on their team for example if I am willing will I still be allowed to train with them and when they think I become good enough eventually get to play with the team ?
    or if I am not good enough now.. I have to train on my own get better and then try out for the team ?
     
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    I don't think ur tennis will be able to compete at the college level in which ur grades will surly allow you to attend. MIT, Stanford, Berkley, Georgia..UCLA etc. Maybe Princeton tennis but they're pretty good too :)

    And yes u will have to train by yourself not with the team. They will not let u practice with them if not on the team. Most teams at that level have players coming in to fill the spots. There r walk ons and some r good enough to make the team. Never give up and have fun trying.
     
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  17. SpEeDyZ

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    I just wanna get in a top college.. I'll work my way through there then :D
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    P.S I have applied Princeton, Stanford, MIT along with some other top universities also..

    and MIT is Div 3 !
     
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    True MIT is DIV 3 and also the # 1 engineering college. Either way it's a win win.
     
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  19. jmjmkim

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    You're ball hitting techniques look pretty good. Keep up the good grades. As for the rating, you have to play tournaments to have any kind of legit rating. It's all about who you can beat, not how pretty your strokes look. Good luck.
     
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  20. SpEeDyZ

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    ^^Ahan alright thanks!
    and by rating I meant like how would you rate me if I wanted to eventually play college tennis? in that sense.... and I am international also so US ratings would perhaps be different from how my country rates players and stuff.. so anyways..
     
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  21. junbumkim

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    Yeah, I agree with other people that you could probably play on D3 teams, and maybe D2. D1 is out of realistic reach, though.
    I don't think you will have time to spend the time necessary for you to reach D1 level in college.

    It seems like you really want to keep playing tennis and compete in college..There are other ways to do it like intramural tennis and club tennis. Club tennis is where you play against other university teams, but it's less commitment than playing on the varsity team, but serious enough to have good competition.

    I think it has become pretty common in schools, and they usually have try outs at the beginning of the semester.
     
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  22. J_R_B

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    Any D1 school will let you walk on and try out. I mean, what do they have to lose in case you are an undiscovered pro or something? I doubt you will be allowed to train and work out with the team unless you make the roster, but you may be able to get in a position like trainer or student assistant or something that might get you access to the team as hitting partners. That would vary from school to school.

    Also, a lot of bigger schools have club level tennis as well, including club level teams that play against club level teams from other schools and compete for a club tennis national championship. I don't mean to dash your dreams or anything, but that might be a more realistic path for you if you end up at a D1 school. Club level tennis is probably more like 4.0-4.5 level tennis, as opposed to D1 varsity which is more like 5.0-6.0, depending on the school.
     
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  23. Bacterio

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    You talking about Tennis on Campus that's part of the USTA? Schools have tryouts for that? I know they play against other schools but at the end of the day it's still intramurals. I don't think they're allowed to exclude anyone with tryouts.

    As long as you pay your dues you're on the team. That's why so many schools field like 6 or 7 teams. They have their A teams and then their G and H teams lol. I suppose the worst that can happen is that you're the odd man out when there isn't enough people to field another team so you only get to play as a sub.
     
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  24. SpEeDyZ

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    so club tennis huh .. that would be fine too.. the thing is I just wanna get into a top uni and continue with this passion.. if I get good enough well so be it... if not well then huh nvm (though I think If I try really hard I should be able to make it, nothing impossible ) .. the first obstacle is just making it into a top uni so fingers crossed till April!

    thanks for you help really appreciate it! :)
     
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  25. junbumkim

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    A lot of top schools look at elements in addition to academics...I think state schools pay more attention to your grades and academic performances...There are a lot of great state schools - UC Berkeley, UCLA, Purdue (esp in engineering), and University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign etc...

    I highly doubt you will have chance to practice against D1 players. To be blood honest, you aren't good enough to become their practice / hitting partners. Usually, teams have enough people...
     
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  26. SpEeDyZ

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    well yeah maybe not now but I know I will get a LOT better :) .. thanks for your comment!
     
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  27. racket-e

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    Honestly right now no way you are good enough for DII and wouldn't make most D3 schools. You play very well for only having 3 years but even the middle of D3 tennis has high 1 star recruits and low 2 star recruits. Maybe by your junior or senior year you could walk on if you continue training hard.
     
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  28. SpEeDyZ

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    Alright thanks ! I know I am not that good that why I did not directly apply as a recruit but still I decided to email this as I thought this might help in admissions..

    Thanks for your comments! :)

    P.S what do you think of my serve? Do you also find that right leg weird or is it ok ?

    serve is in the last 2 mins of the video
     
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  29. spacediver

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    You look extremely athletic.

    Love the backhand, and how you adjust the height of your body to handle a wide variety of ball heights. You use your knees beautifully to get low.

    Forehand looks like it might be a little army - same problem I've been trying to deal with. Though you seem to incorporate better mechanics (using more core) when getting into a higher paced rally.

    Serve looks like you're tossing the ball too far to your left, resulting in your body being off balance through the hit. This is kinda what happens when hitting a kick serve, but looks like you might be doing this for even your flat serves.

    Your backhand volleys seem to be too wristy, though you seem to be aware of the poor technique based on your comments.
     
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  30. papa

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    I think you look pretty good but need some coaching - especially on your net strokes and overheads. You've gotten a good jump on a lot of the hard stuff but the volley and overhead is just not going to hold up at much of a level.

    Your game can be a good one but, and you know this already, needs work.
     
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  31. GetBetterer

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    Question: Why are your SAT Subject Test Scores on there...for Tennis?

    1. They're supposed to be sent to the administrative offices along with your transcript and such.

    2. How are they going to help you with Tennis?

    3. Don't post the scores because then people get the feeling that you could be lying about them (although I think you're telling the truth).
     
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  32. The Wreck

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    Not the way it is at Georgia. They are cut throat. Last year I tried out and they had 40-ish people trying out for 4 spots.
    I decided not to come back for another day of tryouts (even though I was competitive with the people there) because it's such a massive time commitment. Having to travel out of state, miss school, and pay your expenses isn't exactly my idea of a casual after school activity. Just my two cents though, as I'm sure many people feel differently.
     
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  33. SpEeDyZ

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    thanks :) .. really appreciate your feedback.. Ill certainly try to get that toss right...

    Yes definitely I need a lot of work that's why I asked you guys to point me in the right direction...

    Well I just thought they might give the coach a better picture of my academic performance.. or atleast that's how I intended it to be..


    Thanks,
     
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  34. NLBwell

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    Rate? Probably a high 4.0, you have good groundstrokes with pretty good fundamentals, so have the capability to be really good in that area - may be 4.5 groundstrokes. Serve is a weakness, but you have the capability to have a good serve.
    You would probably be surprised how many good tennis players there are at a school like MIT. Like you, there are a lot of excellent students who play tennis. You can find people to play there but the weather there is bad.
     
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  35. SpEeDyZ

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    Alrights thanks for your comment

    and I got a few replies from some coaches and well they cant help much in admissions :p heh
    So I guess I should hope to get in based solely on my academics and work my way up when there....
     
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    Looked at your SAT scores - kind of slid through that the first time. If you want to go to a top school and get to play a lot of tennis but aren't worried about playing on a team, Rice University would be good. The team is a high level D-1 school, but there are a lot of good players not on the team to play with and you can play all year round. I got really good playing there. They also have a club team, I believe.
     
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  37. SpEeDyZ

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    oh darn I didn't apply Rice.. I was going to but then I realized I had so many other universities with the same deadline and I couldn't add one more to that :( ... I have applied to 20 colleges btw... ranging from Harvard to as low as ( in terms of academics i.e I know it terms of tennis its awesome ) University of San Diego ( and low as in compared to others ) ...
     
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  38. SuperDuy

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    Good player, work on the volleys.
     
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  39. SpEeDyZ

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    Alright thanks and yes I'll certainly work on it ...
     
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    I'm thinking NTRP 4.0. You seem consistent enough, with good spin, but with flaws in the technical and footwork departments.
     
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    BH: Looks nice, stable. Good footwork. You seem strong enough to handle various shots to your 1HBH.

    FH: Too much wrist, arm. I can see it breaking down during matches, hitting long. Footwork on FH is nowhere as good as that on BH. Sometimes you close your stance and put yourself in an awkward position. Also you tend to wait for the ball more on FH whereas on BH you get into position nicely.

    Volley: Mediocre. Either not a natural volleyer and/or haven't played long enough.

    Overhead: For a young guy your footwork is lazy resulting in bad overheads.

    Serve: So-so. Seems like with better technique you should be able to put more MPH and better placement. I see potential for improvement there.
     
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  42. 35ft6

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    I would look into D-3 teams. But I've seen a few D-1 programs that aren't world beaters. Fordham comes to mind. You Catholic?

    Coaches don't really care about the hitting part. That stuff is deceptive. They want to see you in a match in a sanctioned tournament.

    The fundamentals on your strokes look very good. And more than most players who post videos who are about your level, your balance and footwork looks promising. Play 3 or 4 hours a day this summer and you'll get a lot better.
     
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  43. Dreamer

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    your vertical movement is weak. You don't really give yourself the ideal contact points, by creating or closing space.

    Also on the forehand your shoulder turn is weak. This means you're not really relying on the core but the legs and arms to create the stroke. The result is less control and power.

    On the backhand, the core can also be stronger.
     
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