My Tennis (videos)... needs lotsa help :)

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  1. Tikiman53

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    Hey, guys! It's me again. I'm back. I haven't been able to hit the courts that often these days cuz of school and all that jazz, but here I am. Back at the club. Anyways, these videos are taking FOREVER to upload and stuff. So far there's only one. But soon, there should be videos of my serves, my groundstrokes, and dropshots (which need lots of help).

    Anyways, one video is up. These are some groundstrokes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzXlcOTGqk#

    from what I've seen, my backhand looks really weird and tight. When I'm playing, I could feel my tenseness as well. I dunno, my backhand feels kinda odd.

    Whenever another video uploads, I'll just add em on to this post.

    Thanks a lot guys!

    EDIT:

    Some groundstrokes from the back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyuVpQxhDRc

    Some serves!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOlmRBCQLBE

    I didn't notice till now that I have a video, but these serves look so WEIRD! It looks like I have tons of little bad habits with my feet and stuff. Please critique away! I need to get rid of these problems before they escalate. Thanks for all the help guys. really appreciate it!
     
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  2. Nellie

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    On the back hand, it looks to me that your contact is too far back and close to your body. Consequently, you are shortening your arms to get contact on the ball. Also, you need to stay down (with slightly bent knees) on that shot, instead of popping up so that you can slightly lean into the shot and extend your arms at contact, instead of merely trying to swing fast.
     
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  3. Ambivalent

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    Backhand looks awkward.

    Also, i think you're moving your feet unecessarily. There's a difference between good footwork and fidgeting.

    Forehand looks good but swing is huge. I'm interested on how you return kick serves
     
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  4. rbq4h4

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    i'm just curious, is that a train goin by making that sound inthe video?
     
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  5. zidane339

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    I think you need to change your backhand grip, which causes you to hit it so into your body. I'm not pro, so I'll let the experts step in on this.
     
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  6. Tennisguy777

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    Forehand looks good but next time can we see if the balls are going over the net. Okay NM the second video addressed this. Where are you, those courts look nice. Is that your ball machine? The lights are awesome kind of looks like UFOs are hovering from above.
     
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  7. Tikiman53

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    Hey, thanks for the comments you guys! So basically, on my backhand, I should stay lower, contact further ahead, and not be so close to the ball? That's what my coach is always telling me to do.

    And what about my forehand? Any kinks or anything? Maybee I should shorten my swing?

    And Tennisguy777, I'm at a club in SoCal called Flintcanyon Tennis Club. Yeah, it's really really nice. It's in the Pasadena area. And yeah, haha, they do look like UFOs now that I see it.

    And it's really loud all the time cuz of wind and a nearby freeway but all in all, the courts are really nice.

    Anymore tips? I can use a lot of help
     
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  8. dunlop kid

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    Hello
    Shorten your backswing on your forehand and bend on your backhand.Your way too upright.Other than that its alright.How old are?
     
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  9. Tikiman53

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    I'm 15 years old
     
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  10. dunlop kid

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    Show us some serves please.
     
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  11. Tikiman53

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    haha, okay, I'm trying to get them up, but YouTube is being very difficult.
     
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  12. dunlop kid

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    Thats fine.You look like a good player.
     
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  13. armsty

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    They're some pretty solid groundstrokes. I think you are too front on with your forehands but it works for you so that's alright :p
     
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  14. Tikiman53

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    Alright, got some serves in. I really need help with these, folks. SErves are always so hard for me, and they look really weird.

    Thanks for all the help, btw.

    And Dunlop kid, wow, I am flattered. Lol, really? I'm not gonna turn all cocky now that I heard that, but that just made my day! THanks! Lol
     
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  15. dunlop kid

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    Serously yu do look like a good plaeyer.Where are the serves.have you gotta link?Thanks
     
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  16. armsty

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    My 2 cents.

    You start off too front on then you bring your right foot around to the line which makes it worse.

    To change this, I think you should start way more side on, shoulders right around, keeping your racket pointed at the net though. From there, keeping your shoulders side on, drag your right foot towards your front foot, toss your ball and then jump up to the ball. This gives you extra height which can give you a better angle to put more pace on the ball. You will also generate more pace if you are side on when hitting the ball, pulling your arm across your body after your serve, rather than starting front on.

    Dragging your right forward, as opposed to the side, gives you the ability to get a lot more leg power to get up to the ball, as well as moving into the serve. Try get up to the ball and landing about a foot inside the court.

    /End 2 cents.
     
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  17. thundaga

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    you're too front-on when serving, i think thats why ur (unintentionally?) taking that side step when you're about to make contact. like armsty said, u need to turn to the side a bit more, maybe work on pointing the line of your shoulders to where you're serving for a start
     
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  18. dunlop kid

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    Your serve has gotta a couple of problems:

    Firstly your right foot should be behind your left foot to start.Then you move your right foot 2 feet over to the right which isnt good.A good drill to get rid of this problem is to put a brick there or a racket and make your foot stay to the left.This object should force yourself to stay to the left.

    Also your ball toss should be a bit more to the left.Thats maybe another problem with your right foot.So ball toss a bit more to the left.

    Good Luck
     
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  19. Quasar

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    Yeah, your serves are your weakness right now. Your footwork is the main problem. Here's what to do to make sure you fix it: Set up to the base line with your feet about a foot apart and your stance closed, meaning your right foot is behind your left, so if you draw a line along your toes it would point to the right of the right net post. And then don't move your feet at all until they leave the ground for the strike. No stepping at all. Federer, Sampras, Djokovic, etc. all do this and for you right now it is the best thing for you because it will teach you to turn properly. So practice like that until it feels comfortable. It won't take that long. I gaurantee it will help you. Probably a lot.
     
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  20. Quasar

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    Haha, I just commented right after watching the video and didn't read the posts before me where people basically said the same thing. But yeah, do that.
     
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  21. Quasar

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    Also, your forehand looks good but squat a little more when setting up to it. And on your backhand you could get your legs into it more too and allow your racket to drop more when coming into the ball like you do on your forehand. Unless the ball is really high.
     
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  22. LanEvo

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    bend ur knees more when u serve
     
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  23. obnoxious2

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    That is one hella long swing for a forehand.
     
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  24. Tikiman53

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    hey, thanks for all the comments guys. Sorry about taking a long time to respond. School and finals -_-. haha
     
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  25. Quasar

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    Are you implying that there is something wrong with that? It's called being athletic.
     
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  26. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Actually, there is something wrong with a hella long swing. Mine is pretty long and it gives me trouble sometimes so I am trying to shorten it up.
     
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  27. Ambivalent

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    It's fine having a long swing. Look at the pros. however, more often than not, you're going to find yourself in situations where you need to be able to shorten it, i.e on returns and off shots that you dont have ample time to get in position.
     
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  28. BullDogTennis

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    long swings are better if you can control them, short swings are better for beginers.

    if you have a long swing you better figure out all the ways things can go wrong so you can self-fix things in a hurry, because there ARE alot more things to go wrong in a long loopy swing then in a short one. but to me, the benefits of a long swing outweigh the bad.
     
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  29. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Were talking about the take-back loop right? The bigger the worse.. You don't want a HUGE take back. When you start to play better players who hit through the ball more, you don't have enough time to have a big loopy take back.
     
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  30. 5263

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    Sure you do, just start earlier.

    Of course I'm not advocating a longer swing and don't have one my self.
     
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  31. BullDogTennis

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    ok watched the vid again--and that is an extremely big swing...when i think of a big takeback i dont think of that. if you can handle the big swing when hitting against big players without getting really tired than more power too ya, but if i were you i would shorten it a little.
     
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  32. Quasar

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    Oh, so if you are shortening up your swing then there is something wrong with a long swing. I get it now. I forgot logic and what great players do doesn't matter but what you do is all the evidence that is needed. Get a grip on reality sir. You aren't using a long swing effectively because you don't know how or aren't physically capable. That doesn't mean everyone else is in the same boat. Check out Leyton Hewitt and learn how someone more athletic and better at tennis than you does it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQxsL6qs2r0&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhw867pun_w&feature=related
     
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  33. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Don't try to be a smart ass kid. Read my quote again. I said "Actually, there is something wrong with a hella long swing. Mine is pretty long and it gives me trouble sometimes so I am trying to shorten it up." That is CITING an example.

    I did NOT say: "there is something wrong with a hella long swing because mine is pretty long. There is a difference.

    You are citing an example in trying to make me look inferior to Hewitt which is VERRRRY much true but it is not needed. I was posting an example of what COULD happen if he keeps having a huge swing and CANNOT handle it.
     
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  34. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I would like to also post I don't believe in "shorter the better". I just think having WAY too big of a swing is not good for situations. I think it's all about what situation you are in, but the OP seems to ALWAYS use the same big loop take back.

    Just my thoughts.
     
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  35. Bungalo Bill

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    Hi,

    Good energy on your strokes. I liked that you where up to moving and kept moving.

    Here are some things:

    1. Shoulder rotation: On the twohanded backhand relax the arms some and make sure you bring your front shoulder under your chin on the backswing. As you followthrough, you touch your chin with the back shoulder. Slow down the feed if you have to and get used to it. Sometimes increasing your shoulder rotation can mess up your timing some and feel a bit akward

    2. On some of the twohanded backhand position setups, your feet were a tad too close together. Spread it out a little for balance but not too far where you can't step in.

    3. The backswing on your forehand should not wrap behind you. It should stay on the same side of your body (the right side).

    4. I know it was a ball machine you were practicing with. But your recovery step was a bit weak. Stengthen the push-off and immediately get into position. You need to close the court off to a DTL shot and keep the ball coming back to you crosscourt.

    A good measure for this is to stand perpendicular to the net. Pretend a line is running from the net, across your toes, and to the fence. When you take the racquet back, it should not go past the line running behind you.
     
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  36. Fumoffu

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    JASON? IS THAT YOU? HOLY CRAP. You actually swing at the ball now. And your voice is has changed too! Well, good on ya mate. Anywho, you should call me up sometime to hit. I feel like getting pwnt by the new you. Haven't called since I got a new phone and lost your number and such @_@
     
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  37. Quasar

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    You still don't seem to understand or be able to admit that just because you can't do something doesn't mean there is something wrong with it. That is exactly what you implied in your previous post, it was your reasoning for there being something wrong with it. If you can't do it, fine, but that doesn't mean you should discourage people who can from doing it. Think about if somebody told Lleyton Hewit that when he was the age of tikiman, and Hewitt actually listened to that and shortened his swing? It would be horrible advice.
     
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  38. Azzurri

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    wow...you finally learned something after all this time. good for you.
     
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  39. thursdayisgod

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    is it me or does it look like your service grip is too western?
     
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  40. Quasar

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    I guess Lleyton Hewit doesn't play against better players because he has an even bigger swing than the original poster. If Lleyton Hewitt had to play against better players, man, he'd really be screwed.
     
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  41. user92626

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    I beg to differ. His footwork at the level he plays seems to be correct to me. Split steps, squeaky shoes and all that.
     
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  42. Azzurri

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    dude...you are not privy to my point. GWB knows what I meant. But thanks for pointing out the obvious.
     
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