My thoughts about Djokovic, Federer and 2022 Laver cup

nov

Hall of Fame
I cant understand why Djokovic plays Laver Cup this year. Hes acting so respectfull to Federer, thats good. But cmon, this must be so hard for him. Even at presentation hes behind Rafa and Roger. I understand its last Roger's tournament, but its for sure Novak isnt third wheel... I kind of maybe could understand being behind Nadal if you only look at GS titles, but Federer being ahead Novak?Seriously?I cant even figure which one disrespecting himself more. Novak playing Laver cup or Federer doing so big deal about himself. And that chair raise thing???Federer looks like 12 year child looking for attention badly.
In his situation i would play last normal ATP tournament for example Basel and just finish tournament, give as many signatures for fans as i could, give speech and thats it. Anyways Roger finishing as third wheel so should respect others, he isnt bigger than tennis sport itself.
 

nov

Hall of Fame
Djokovic said he was looking forward to spending time with them off the court too. Must be nice to have an event where they can get together without being rivals or having to face one another in competitive matches.
Djokovic shows class act, even bring disrespected so badly. Most of us couldnt act like that in this situation..
 

Indigo

Professional
Novak recently admitted that three of them have secret Whatsapp group. I think over the years they went full WWE in media and on court just because it was demanded from them due to financial aspect of tennis as a business whereas behind the masks they were always true and honest friends.
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
It is seriously pathetic that there are people who consider this any kind of issue.

Novak has looked nothing but happy sharing that moment with his peers the whole time he has been there. Last night when they came out for the match and everyone was applauding he was the one guy on the team TAKING PICTURES OF IT ON HIS PHONE. He was literally the most understanding and into the moment.

It is nice he can appreciate the enormity of the occasion even if certain tribalistic fools are still completely unable to get over themselves.
 
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gjm127

Hall of Fame
Novak recently admitted that three of them have secret Whatsapp group. I think over the years they went full WWE in media and on court just because it was demanded from them due to financial aspect of tennis as a business whereas behind the masks they were always true and honest friends.

I wonder what the Whatsapp Group is called: Big-3?

:-D
 

phl92

Hall of Fame
Cmon its much less of a drama as most people here make it seem. Djoko Nadal and Fedr is probably the best trio in sports I can remember. It was mainly the families in the stadions which had some littlle fights back then (Djokovics father...).
All 3 of these guys achieved so much... I really believe they share love between each other. The GS race is there, they are proessional competitors but yeah.... no reason to get pissed because someone is called GOAT even though from stats he isn't ...
Schuhmacher is GOAT of formula 1, is Hamilton claiming different?
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
I cant understand why Djokovic plays Laver Cup this year. Hes acting so respectfull to Federer, thats good. But cmon, this must be so hard for him. Even at presentation hes behind Rafa and Roger. I understand its last Roger's tournament, but its for sure Novak isnt third wheel... I kind of maybe could understand being behind Nadal if you only look at GS titles, but Federer being ahead Novak?Seriously?I cant even figure which one disrespecting himself more. Novak playing Laver cup or Federer doing so big deal about himself. And that chair raise thing???Federer looks like 12 year child looking for attention badly.
In his situation i would play last normal ATP tournament for example Basel and just finish tournament, give as many signatures for fans as i could, give speech and thats it. Anyways Roger finishing as third wheel so should respect others, he isnt bigger than tennis sport itself.
Sad. Given all the backlash you've gotten in this thread, it might have been best if you had kept your sour thoughts to yourself.
 
I cant understand why Djokovic plays Laver Cup this year. Hes acting so respectfull to Federer, thats good. But cmon, this must be so hard for him. Even at presentation hes behind Rafa and Roger. I understand its last Roger's tournament, but its for sure Novak isnt third wheel... I kind of maybe could understand being behind Nadal if you only look at GS titles, but Federer being ahead Novak?Seriously?I cant even figure which one disrespecting himself more. Novak playing Laver cup or Federer doing so big deal about himself. And that chair raise thing???Federer looks like 12 year child looking for attention badly.
In his situation i would play last normal ATP tournament for example Basel and just finish tournament, give as many signatures for fans as i could, give speech and thats it. Anyways Roger finishing as third wheel so should respect others, he isnt bigger than tennis sport itself.


Unfortunately for many people he is. If they had an ATP tour of just Fed playing himself they would would be happy. Its the same reason why Fed is above all criticism and his primadonna/arrogant type personality was rewarded all these years. Many times Rafa couldn't even enjoy his trophy ceremony because the swiss had to be over there crying like it was this "god given right" to be GOAT or something.

People can't stand Djokovic because they know deep down hes better than Fed
 

nov

Hall of Fame
The most popular and iconic tennis player ever retires and we're treated to this incredibly high level analysis. TTW at its finest. :-D
OP isn't too bright. Give it a rest and give up the jealousy for 1 weekend. This is supposed to be a special weekend and this crying complaint isn't a good look
Honestly, what else did you expect from a *********?
:rolleyes:
Sad. Given all the backlash you've gotten in this thread, it might have been best if you had kept your sour thoughts to yourself.
You all know its true, but wont admit it. No problem i forgive you all, these last days been hard for you guys.
 

T007

Hall of Fame
Unfortunately for many people he is. If they had an ATP tour of just Fed playing himself they would would be happy. Its the same reason why Fed is above all criticism and his primadonna/arrogant type personality was rewarded all these years. Many times Rafa couldn't even enjoy his trophy ceremony because the swiss had to be over there crying like it was this "god given right" to be GOAT or something.

People can't stand Djokovic because they know deep down hes better than Fed
Dumbass what kind of a sore ass jerk you are.

Nadal couldn't enjoy trophy ceremony because of Fed.

Next level of hatemongering.

I am sure If Nadal sees your comment he will spank you till his racket strings collapse.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
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T007

Hall of Fame
I cant understand why Djokovic plays Laver Cup this year. Hes acting so respectfull to Federer, thats good. But cmon, this must be so hard for him. Even at presentation hes behind Rafa and Roger. I understand its last Roger's tournament, but its for sure Novak isnt third wheel... I kind of maybe could understand being behind Nadal if you only look at GS titles, but Federer being ahead Novak?Seriously?I cant even figure which one disrespecting himself more. Novak playing Laver cup or Federer doing so big deal about himself. And that chair raise thing???Federer looks like 12 year child looking for attention badly.
In his situation i would play last normal ATP tournament for example Basel and just finish tournament, give as many signatures for fans as i could, give speech and thats it. Anyways Roger finishing as third wheel so should respect others, he isnt bigger than tennis sport itself.
Son don't show this to your father(Srdjan) or else he will smack the **** out of you for spreading rumours.

Your IQ is even worse than 12 year old (The reference you used to troll a person who was the Face of tennis throughout his career).
 
Dumbass what kind of a sore ass jerk you are.

Nadal couldn't enjoy trophy ceremony because of Fed.

Next level of hatemongering.

I am sure If Nadal sees your comment he will spank you till his racket strings collapse.


Whoa.. Calm down dude. He just retired. He didn't pass away. And no its tough to enjoy a trophy ceremony when the opponent is over there balling in tears like it was his last chance to win a slam or something:rolleyes:
 

T007

Hall of Fame
Whoa.. Calm down dude. He just retired. He didn't pass away. And no its tough to enjoy a trophy ceremony when the opponent is over there balling in tears like it was his last chance to win a slam or something:rolleyes:
2 cent troll did he came told you personally that he can't enjoy...don't make such absurd statement to justify your Fed hatred. I think still he is living rent free in your head even though he is retired.

Keep on the TTW culture going on.
 

nov

Hall of Fame
I don't even think he's a ********. More like someone trying to give a bad look to honest Djofans.
Son don't show this to your father(Srdjan) or else he will smack the **** out of you for spreading rumours.

Your IQ is even worse than 12 year old (The reference you used to troll a person who was the Face of tennis throughout his career).
Why so salty?Truth hurts like always?
 

wangs78

Legend
I cant understand why Djokovic plays Laver Cup this year. Hes acting so respectfull to Federer, thats good. But cmon, this must be so hard for him. Even at presentation hes behind Rafa and Roger. I understand its last Roger's tournament, but its for sure Novak isnt third wheel... I kind of maybe could understand being behind Nadal if you only look at GS titles, but Federer being ahead Novak?Seriously?I cant even figure which one disrespecting himself more. Novak playing Laver cup or Federer doing so big deal about himself. And that chair raise thing???Federer looks like 12 year child looking for attention badly.
In his situation i would play last normal ATP tournament for example Basel and just finish tournament, give as many signatures for fans as i could, give speech and thats it. Anyways Roger finishing as third wheel so should respect others, he isnt bigger than tennis sport itself.
But he *IS* the third wheel. He showed up after Roger and Rafa were already in the middle of their epic rivalry. Him not attending this LC would reflect badly on him as he was already signed up for the LC this year. Are you saying that he should have withdrawn after Roger announced he would retire at the LC???

I will agree that the Europe team carrying Roger on their shoulders was too much. You only do that if you're Rudy from the film Rudy.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
But he *IS* the third wheel. He showed up after Roger and Rafa were already in the middle of their epic rivalry. Him not attending this LC would reflect badly on him as he was already signed up for the LC this year. Are you saying that he should have withdrawn after Roger announced he would retire at the LC???

I will agree that the Europe team carrying Roger on their shoulders was too much. You only do that if you're Rudy from the film Rudy.

They just wanted to give him a Mick Foley moment ;)

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MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
No idea what this obscure pseudo-wrestling reference means

It's for the people that know :D
But for those that don't, it's one of the biggest moments of the "Monday Night Wars" that helped WWE turn the tide on WCW after losing the ratings war for almost 2 years ;)


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Fans, if you're even thinking about changing the channel to our competition, do not. We understand that Mick Foley, who wrestled here at one time as Cactus Jack, is gonna win their World title. Ha! That's gonna put some butts in the seats, heh.[25]
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MadariKatu

Hall of Fame
Djokovic is going out after Nadal because Rafa has more slams. And Federer is going in font because it's his farewell, otherwise, he'd be going out after Novak. There's nothing more to it.
 

pj80

Legend
Djokovic is going out after Nadal because Rafa has more slams. And Federer is going in font because it's his farewell, otherwise, he'd be going out after Novak. There's nothing more to it.
or they did it by age...Fed came first he went last then Rafa showed up after Fed, he goes second last....and so on.
 

Clay lover

Legend
It's this kind of mindset that gives Novak a bad name as their fans project their own bitterness onto Novak.

If you can't accept that two people could have become better friends than you with them because they shared a rivalry earlier, you're the manchild, not Federer. Also, this tournament has been about Federer's retirement, not who has the most slams, so it's natural that Federer and whomever he considers his best rival will share the limelight. You want the conversation to be about slams, go back and play a slam, not go to an irrelevant event and expect people to treat you like some kind of bigshot.
 
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ForehandRF

Legend
Unfortunately for many people he is. If they had an ATP tour of just Fed playing himself they would would be happy. Its the same reason why Fed is above all criticism and his primadonna/arrogant type personality was rewarded all these years. Many times Rafa couldn't even enjoy his trophy ceremony because the swiss had to be over there crying like it was this "god given right" to be GOAT or something.

People can't stand Djokovic because they know deep down hes better than Fed
You man only AO 2009.I mean, it's one thing to dislike him, but your are being dishonest here :D
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
Tbh Djokovic has hurt himself in the fans eyes over the years with some things.

I mean, ripping your shirt off after a match is either motivating for people, or they think hes a clown. Not to mention the tons of other things like shouting at ballkids , and some of his interviews especially when he was younger.

Fedal generally never acted like this, although they are far from perfect. I understand why some people will think either of them arent their cup of tea either.

I, personally, like Djokovic, the person. I think hes the most respectful in defeat. We have seen Fedal be major stroppy at the net after losing to him, but hes usually very congratulating to whoever beats him. Its a trait i like.

I dont really see all this as a PR thing from Djokovic either. In time, everyone mellows, and i believe the early frostiness between the great rivals , has all but gone.
 
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