Nadal always does well after injury breaks: so expect him to win the US Open

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  1. JennyS

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    2006: after being out 4 months with an injury, Nadal won Dubai, beating Federer in the final.
    2008: injured in Paris and missed the Masters Cup and Davis Cup. But came back strong and won the Australian Open.
    2009: misses Wimbledon with knee injury, out for over 2 months. I say he's the favorite to win the Open!
     
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  2. I like the way you think. :)
     
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  3. Terr

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    :( I think it's a tall order, but I certainly hope he can. That'd make a career GS!
     
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    Nadal will win the Open. He is eager to show Roger who is the real boss.
     
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    I agree,he's one of the main contenders.He's downplaying his chances dramatically in interviews as usual(which can be a bit annoying) but I think he'll find his form by USO and play well there.
     
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    Heres a thought for Nadal.... QUIT GETTING INJURED, downplaying your chances, and then come raring back to tour ane win tournaments from the very start..

    He should be fined for that. LOL. Everyone had him on his death bad the end of last year.. then what happens? He wins the Australian, a bunch of tourneys after. 2006 the same thing happened.. Now its happening again..
     
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  7. Terr

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    Less annoying than over-zealous arrogance pooling around his feet.

    I can't think of a top 5 player with that attitude.

    :twisted:

    Rafael says he's very sorry about any lasting mental damage his injuries and ability to win may have caused the tennis community to suffer.
     
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    Depends for whom,I find confidence,even overconfidence bordering on arrogance much more easier to accept from a top athlete than constant whining and downplaying his chances.
     
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    It is classy to be humble and modest and downplay your chances, and then dominate like Nadal. Much more classy than arrogant bad-mouthing of all your rivals and then losing badly to them with embarassment.
     
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    See but this making me wonder now.. It does seem that every time Nadal is coming from an injury, he performs above the level expected and jumps right into his winning ways right from the get go. See last year as an example. Walks right into the AO and wins it..

    Its almost sometimes as if he just takes little vacations here and there. I could understand why some people would question this.. This will be the 3rd time is happened
     
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    Nadal and Muray to win USO 2009!

    Vamos/come on!!
     
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  12. Great prediction Einstein, they r gonna play eachother in the semis (if they can advance that far)
     
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    I couldn't agree more..I find it ridiculously hard to believe this guy.
    Like a fan said it seems like one is listening to Toni and not Rafa himself.
     
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    I agree. Some athletes obviously had mothers who didn't teach their superstar tennis playing sons any common courtesy/humility.

    You dont have to believe his words. Just the results. If he loses, he wasn't an arrogant ***** to begin with and if he wins, well... all the better for him and his fans.
     
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    I said i don't mind if either one wins...
     
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    If he loses he has a ready excuse.If he wins he's a hero and all the suffering goes up the flames.
     
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    Yeah,those little vacations are called tendinitis flare-ups.It's not like Nadal sits at home enjoying himself while his competitors win titles and pass him in the rankings.Last year he rested for 2 and a half months and missed TMC and DC final,2 very important tournaments for him especiall the DC Cup,cause Rafa is very patriotic and loves to play DC.

    He won AO but look how grueling his matches were,especially the ones with simon/verdasco and federer.Plus he came in AO with low expectations having been beaten there in previous years.He was like the fourth favourite.It's not like Nadal marched towards the AO title,he fought until the end and finally got it,in 5 close sets with Fed(ok,last set wasn't close but still).

    Get used to it.I'm a Nadal fan and I can see more "little vacations" in his future.His knees and playing style will see to that.
     
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    It's called low expectations and it's normal for a guy that has been sidelined for 2 months.It's not like Nadal is blind siding everyone and coming out of nowhere to win USOpen after this injury.He cannot expect much because it's unlikely he will win much the rest of the year and he is the first one to know this.If he makes quarters in Montreal maybe he can make quarters in USOpen,anything beyond that is bonus.

    And it doesn't matter if he loses or wins in Montreal.This is nothing but a glorified exo for him,hence the statement that it is impossible for him to win it.He knows the other guys smell blood,that he is rusty after 2 months off and he doesn't get his hopes up and neither should his fans.

    I just want to see the guy play,seems like ages since he hasn't stepped on court.
     
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  19. Terr

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    You're basically saying he has a win/win personality.

    Picture this. Nadal says 'I'm going to win. My knees feel like new. I will thrash Federer. I am the best.'

    He then loses in the final of USO against Fed. Or he loses in the first round. He has to eat his own words.

    He wins, he sounds like an arrogant 5 year old.

    He says 'I'm not sure. We'll see'

    He loses. We weren't expecting much, anyway.

    He wins. We're surprised by his victory.

    There are players who work their entire careers to attain the same level of humility. He might not be the greatest player in the world or even on tour, but don't make his positive traits into something they're not.
     
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    Only if Soderling is not on his side of the draw. :twisted:
     
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    I thought Soderling was out with elbow issues anyway?
     
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    He is the best.
     
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    First off-He dosent have to be extreme.I dont mind the "we'll see what happens" attitude at all.What I mind is the continuous drumroll of how he is not 100%,how he is not a fav.for the upcoming GS.How Federer is always the favourito etc.
    And quite frankly,I like players who say straight away that they believe they can win the tournament.Why not? If you've worked for it,it should be no problem.If you lose-bad at the office,there's always a next time.
    All in all I like players who are honest and I dont consider saying "I can win the tournament" talks arrogant at all..And sorry, I'm not fond of pre-emptive provisions.
     
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  24. TheFifthSet

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    Uhh . . . . something's got to give. ;)
     
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    Dont.He'll end up calling Soderling the favourite :lol:
     
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    This is how it could happen. Nadal and Murray are playing the US Open final and are tied at 5-5 in a 5th set tiebreak. Suddenly the rains come pouring down and it rains for 5 weeks straight. By then, the USTA declares them Co-Champions!
     
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    Now that you've put it that way, I see where you're coming from.

    'I can win' is not arrogant

    'I'm going to win. My knees feel like new. I will thrash Federer. I am the best.'

    That would be arrogant.
     
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    It wouldnt be arrogant(when you have results and multiple GS wins,it aint arrogance)..it would be a little too out of character for him or for any of these guys.
     
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    I certainly hope no one stoops as low as to say anything along those lines in this sport.

    I like that tennis is a classy sport. If I didn't, I'd be a football hooligan, following Beckham around the world.

    God it's such an awful sport.
     
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  30. clayman2000

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    Look can i ask everyone a question. How can Rafa know how healthy he is? He has not played a match in 2 months. A tennis match against a ATP pro is the only way he can fully measure how well he is. Training is one thing, but actually playing is different.

    Rafa is saying he is not sure how well he is because he could come back on the court and still feel crappy against a high level player. His practicing partners cannot challenge him as much as a pro can. No?
     
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    Hmm...Let me see.Fed has 5 USOpen,Nadal has 0.I'm guessing Fed and even Murray/Djokovic have and advantage over Nadal there.So yeah,Nadal was right,Fed is the favourite.
    Wimbledon.Up until this year,Fed had 5,Nadal 1.I'm pretty sure that Fed is favourite so again Rafa is right.
    AO.Fed has 3 and Rafa 1.Federer is favourite.

    The only Slam in which he is favourite over Roger is the FO where he has 4 and Roger 1.Pre-emptive excuses? How is stating a reality an excuse? He will never be 100% again unless he takes something like 6 months off(or a big period of time),so he isn't entering USOpen in his best form.Nadal will never be a favourite at the USOpen because it is his worst surface,jut like Fed will never be a favourite at the clay of RG.How is Fed not a favourite at the USOpen? He has 5 there,Nadal doesn't even have a final.Nadal is not afraid to speak his mind.In 2006 I think he said something like "Fed is the best in the world,just not here",when speaking about Fed and RG so it's not like it is false modesty.The guy knows his place and realises that Roger is a big favourite outside of RG,especially at USOpen.

    It is not Nadal's mentality to say he can win from the start.Even last year,when he pounded everyone at RG,he said he wants to take it step by step.It is something his uncle taught him,to see defeat as a real possibility and fight against it,fight to win.Nadal knows he can lose,that is why he doesn't make clear statements at the start of the tournament.He obviously also knows he can win but he knows he has to do it first and talk about it later.
     
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    If they play doubles, they might. But its the singles that matters and, with singles in context...I will go highlander on the scott and say..........

    There can only be one!
     
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    Hey man, Pete was cool too. Injury made him pull out of the USO in 99 and other tournaments after that, but came back STRONG and pulverised AA to win the YEC. That was the second best Sampras match ever!
     
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  34. Doubles!!!!!
     
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    Did they change the rules to allow two winners? Cool!
     
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    Another useless trolling thread. Mods delete this.
     
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    I should of said or, big DEAL!

    Grow up.
     
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    Nadal VAMOS'd in the first round!

    C'MON!!

    I don't want to see Murray with the #2 ranking, but it's gonna happen just as I predicted months ago.
     
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    Not quite, I'm not yet inclined to say Nadal is the favourite for the USO just because he has shown some good results coming from injury. Unless he does fantastic at Rogers Cup, then I'll glady say Nadal will reach atleast the Quarters or Semis of the USO.
     
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    Perhaps I've been spending too much time on Fed's site, but until Rafa releases photos of himself in an operating room with bandages on his body parts, I refuse to believe he's injured.
     
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    Oh the irony!!!!!!! :D
     
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    I've got you beat, buddy. :)
     
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    Hey, the troll!! ;)

    BTW, are you really vtmike like goyeji said???
     
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    Why hello there Maximo, I'm still around.
     
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    And Roger got his career slam this year too, which I think it the first time 2 players won career slams in the same year.
     
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    if he breaks a leg every year he can surpass roger's record by 2012.
     
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    Maan. They should make tennis like WWE. Pay them to lose! Two career slams in a year! I'd pay per view for that. :)

    N.B. Joke. No one freak out.
     
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    Hmmmm...let me see...Its Nadal who leads their H2H right? Funny how he keeps telling us how Roger is the favourite to win their matches.Its called deflating pressure.The favourite is based on the confidence against the opponent and not just on how many titles the player has won in the past.Its called patronizing,what he keeps doing.
    Besides I remember him saying the no 1 is always the favourite quite a few times.Why did he then deflate the pressure before AO? He was the no 1 right?
    As for pre-emptive excuses..well his reverse psychology comes off as that and can get annoying.
    And he has deflated pressure at the the FO too.So dont give me one sentence from 2006 FO.

    Reality? my foot..if you're never 100% you get the hell out and dont play.Does Roger say-I am not 100%(and mind you he hasnt always been at the peak of his health...I remember him struggling with foot injuries before AO 05 and not mentioning a word about them.Same for all of the slams so far. )FO is my worst surface etc before the tournament has even started?For four years he was denied the FO and he kept saying he'd win it one day. Are you trying to tell me that other guys dont know they can lose ?
     
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    You'll get banned soon enough. I wouldn't worry about that.
     
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    Nadal only has a chance if he doesn't have to face any of these players:
    Djokovic
    Murray
    Roddick
    Del Potro
    and he could potentially lose to any of these players.
    Tsonga
    Davydenko
    Blake
    Monfils
     
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