Nadal has Got the Blues: Right or Wrong, a POLL

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by OddJack, May 10, 2012.

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Which one?

Poll closed May 30, 2012.
  1. Nadal didnt like blue and that's why he lost

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  2. Excuses! It's same for everyone, get outta here!

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  1. OddJack

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    OK, the reaction we saw after his loss was to blame the color of the dirt

    First of all this is very disrespectful to Verdasco. The guy lost 13 or whatever straight numbers to Nadal and never had anything but respect and praise for him. Now he wins one time and it's the surface that's to blame.


    Second of all, how do you lose a 2 break advantage in the third and then blame anything else but Yourself????


    I would like to see some Nadal fans come forward and talk about the excuses their player is making.

    AND Lastly: I am not for blue and want it gone : But whatever it is, IT IS The same for EVERYONE!
     
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  2. wilfreb

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    its the same to everyone so, verdasco played better thats all. btw i love blue clay
     
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  3. DjokerRules

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    Easier to see ball with blue
     
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  4. Sim

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    Disappointing poll choices Nadal hater lol.

    I'm fine with blue clay, but obviously the courts are not in good condition.

    I'd say it's Nadal's fault he lost though, especially with a 5-2 lead.
     
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  5. OddJack

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    what choices did you want? You say it's his fault that he lost so whatever he says is an excuse.
     
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  6. Sim

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    At least you don't deny being a Nadal hater.

    Please show me where Nadal said that the BLUE COLOR is the reason he lost. If anything, he keeps complaining about not being able to have good footing in the courts, and from the numerous highlights and live matches(not just Nadal) that I saw, his statement holds true.
     
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  7. Bartelby

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    The poll options are near enough to identical.
     
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  8. Clarky21

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    All Oddjack does it troll,troll,troll and troll. Don't you ever get bored with this schtick?
     
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  9. FedExpress117

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    If Nadal won the tournament (beating Djokovic in the final) then every Nadal fan would sign a petition to have Rome and Roland Garros change their clay to blue. When he loses, they call it disgusting. If he would have won Madrid, they would have called it anything other......
     
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  10. FedExpress117

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    I'm sorry Nadal lost...
     
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  11. OddJack

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    At least? I am not a hater. I took it as a joke since you loled.

    Now that you are serious let's talk.

    BLUE COLOR or FOOTING. It was the same for Verdasco. I assume you watched the match. Nadal lost his first serve game on double fault. Was that footing??

    He blew two break advantage, how did he get there with that much bad footing?

    Seems like you have nothing new to add to the excuses Sim. I have heard this before. You thought by pointing the "BLUE COLOR" you made a point.

    Have a good day.
     
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  12. Benhur

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    Nadal made it a point to say more than once that the reason he lost is that Verdasco played better than him. He said the court is the same for everyone. He also said more than once that he wasn't as good as others to adapt to the conditions, meaning the slippery conditions, not the color. http://www.as.com/tenis/articulo/nadal-cambia-pista-vuelvo-madrid/20120510dasdasten_5/Tes

    His complaints about the court in the post-match interviews were all about the slippery conditions and lack of traction, not the color. As far as I know, he didn’t even mention the color in the post-match interview.

    Finally, you already knew all that.
     
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  13. OddJack

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    I see your point. What I meant was blue clay with all its factors...not the color only.
     
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  14. OddJack

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    Worst thing for a troll is to respond.

    Please change the channel. Go away, whatever.
     
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  15. Sim

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    My only point was that you had poor poll options, so I had to back it up saying why...

    I already said that it was Nadal's fault that he lost.

    Thanks for derailing the argument :-?
     
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  16. Evan77

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    I'm getting tired of these blue clay threads. It is the same for everyone, for sure. Nadal is behaving like a spoiled brat, as usual. I still laugh when people call him, humble, sweet ... whatever.

    my only concern is that most of tennis pros are complaining about the safety, not been able to slide etc. but how can you not slide on clay, even if it's blue ...?
     
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  17. OddJack

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    Bottom line, Nadal played poorly and Verdasco played well.

    It's on TC now, if you can watch it just notice how deep Verdasco is returning. It's like DJoker is returning serve. It's so close to BL most of the time. I am surprised commentators are not pointing that out.

    Let's wait till Rome and see how he will do.
    I am sure that's what Tiriac is thinking right now as well.
     
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  18. t135

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    Blue clay is brilliant, but these courts are a joke. Nadal is the greatest clay courtier since Borg, possibly the greatest ever. I think he is well qualified to vigorously complain about a stunt like this. Color is one thing but the issue is much more than just color.
     
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  19. OddJack

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  20. drakulie

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    why oh why didn't they let Nadal play with grass court shoes? :(

    http://www.tennisworldusa.org/ATP-M...clay-with-grass-court-shoes-articolo4166.html

    World no. 2 Rafael Nadal told reporters in Madrid that he asked the ATP to allow him to play with grass-court shoes on the blue clay surface this week but his request was denied since the rules do not allow it.

    This is clear proof from Nadal himself, that the courts at Wimbledon play so much like clay, that he is comfortable playing with "grass shoes" on a clay court.
     
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  21. OddJack

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    ^^^^^

    I doubt it was the shoes.

    I think he was upset because now there is a street in Germany called Federer but there is not even a cul de sac in Spain called Nadal.
     
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  22. Sentinel

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    OP, you need to understand some basic forum principles.

    1. If Fred complains about slowing of courts (e.g) they are the same for everyone. However, if Nadal complains, he has a point and is speaking "for the people".

    2. Criticizing or questioning Nadal is tantamount to trolling and hatred.

    I actually thought Nadal was tanking when he lost the first set. I went out when he was up 4-1 or something in the 3rd and was shocked to return and see them still playing at 6-5.

    Regarding "blues":
    Maybe Nadal was de-priming from last week (MC, Barcelona) where he was beasting. I expect him to be beasting again in Rome and Paris.
     
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  23. SLD76

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    a commentator from that article summed it up nicely:


    ""Rafa needs to quit whining and play tennis. Wimbledon and the US Open didn't elicit player input when they decided to slow down their surfaces, and Rafa certainly didn't complain when it made Roger Federer more beatable on those surfaces.

    Now that a surface makes him less dominant, Rafa pouts. Rafa, if you're not going to complain when changes give you a boost, don't whine when changes aren't suitable to your game. You're looking like a whiny brat who only wants changes that benefit your particular game. It's pathetic.""
     
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  24. Sentinel

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    Could it be that Spain is fed up with him?
     
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  25. OddJack

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    Aye, I heard sometimes when they see Rafa in the streets they say : Hi Roger!
     
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  26. OddJack

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    I agree with the commentator as well.

    All of that said, I think something was wrong about Rafa today, more than blue clay and footing and all that. Even his grunts didnt sound right.
    It's possible that he is struggling physically. Tired, legs, shoulder...
     
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  27. Sentinel

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    His Vamoses were weak, too.

    He may have the blues. Or have been listening to too much BB King.
     
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  28. OddJack

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    Yeah ..usually he gives out one big vamos, today it was two small ones barely audible.
     
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  29. monfed

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    This is all there is to it.
     
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  30. drakulie

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    True, and don't forget his butt picks weren't powerful and forceful. he probably couldn't get proper footing.
     
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  31. DMan

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    That's why he's Nadal!

    Duplicitous and selfish as EVER!
     
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