Nadal has lost muscle mass

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    it appears he is losing weight as his game is transitioning to something of a bit more well rounded game. There will be less stress on his knees and body from having less weight and this should be something to take into account as well. I think Nadal has been trying some new things over his last few tournaments including the WTF which is why his results haven't been there. But soon, Nadal will be back better than ever
     
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    Nadal, during his doubles match in Montreal - August 2009
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    Doesn't look like he lost too much muscle, IMO ^^^^

    Nadal, walking off court after practice in New York - August 2009
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    And that's his right arm!!! ^^^^
     
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    ^ Exactly. People can always choose the photos to "show" Nadal has lost muscle. If that's what they are looking for.
     
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    Why doesn't Nadal go back to muscle shirt?
     
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    imo, Nadal has not lost much muscle mass, but more on mental mass.
     
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    Maybe a little. That's what will happen when you play half as much tennis as you are used too.
     
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    I think he lost the weight to ease the pressure on his knees, just a theory though.
     
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    People here see what they want to see...
     
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    It became a local tradition to have a thread dedicated to Nadal's weight every other week. Mods, why don't we have a separate forum where all the weight-concerned guys can quietly discuss this fascinating subject 24/7/365.
     
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    Nadal is losing everything...

    At the light of all his latest mishaps and sport results I think that Nadal is losing everything lately...not only his muscle mass...
    It will be very difficult for him to recover the leadership of the ATP standings taking into account that another players such as Del Potro,Verdasco,Djokovic,Davydenko,etc are advancing very much in their effectiveness...
    Even if he is very young I would reccommend him to strart thinking on retirement...sorry...
     
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    And I recommend that you start thinking about a basic formal education.
     
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    This is what happens when you stop cold turkey.
     
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    What is basic formal education?...Never to say what you are thinking?...that has never been my basic formal education...the Argentinian Military Governments have taught me that freedom of speech is the best way to make yourself understood...
     
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    This makes sense however he has also lost foot speed. I dont get it.
     
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    Ok.

    Looking at some of the photos that have been posted, I admit-- Nadal doesn't seem to have used/ is using steroids.

    I was speculating from some photos that I had seen ( where there was more of a drastic difference between photos ) that the only explanation would be PED's.

    I retract every comment I made based on my belief.

    Nadal looks like he might have lost some 'meat' in his legs.. but the torso seems static/unchanged.

    Again-- this is probably due to his transition from a hustle, power-baseline game to a more (at least trying to) 'all-court' game.
     
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    Mark Philippoussis on Simon Mayo's show on BBC Radio Five Live said that Nadal has dropped fifteen pounds. Someone asked a question about whether Nadal was going to go down his road. Listen again should be available later, he came in after 2:30.
     
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    It's amazing that people think steroids immediately means one will have huge muscles.

    Steroids are taken for a number of different reasons.

    On another note, Nadal has definitely lost weight/muscle mass. Is this due to a stop in "steroids", a change in eating/training habits, etc?

    Was he using another substance? EPO perhaps? and has stopped using??? I believe he has.
     
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    I didn't know Scud was Nadal's doctor nowadays.
     
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    yeah, I heard he lost the weight by quit taking juice
     
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    Nadal has to regain his old muscle back if he wants to compete against these top ten players. Notice ever since he lost weight, they bullied him around.
     
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    He hasn't lost that much at all. Look at the pictures Blinkism posted on the first page of this thread.
     
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    clowns. how you go from picking a picture of nadal picking up his bags (emulating a bicep curl) OF COURSE ITS GOING TO APPEAR BIGGER. ITS FLEXED! Then you post a picture of his arm stretched out and say hes lost mass? Because its stretched and not flex. There seems to be a lack of knowledge on how muscles work around here, and im no expert but thats obvious. And if he has lost muscle, its not by much. Also while your playing adrenaline causes your muscles to expand, so that's why his left looks a lot bigger, but off court he goes back to being lean. Use your damn brains.
     
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    But watching all of his matches lately, he doesn't look as strong as he's use to be. His shots isn't as penetrating, and the UFEs piled up. Lost of strength on his swing causes too many short ball coming back for the other players to crushed it. Also, he's been netting the ball too much lately, and i think it has to do with his weak swing. He needs to gain that power back to compete again these big boys, and i don't care it if takes steroid to do it. At this moment, he lost that edge.
     
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    Oh, I agree that he doesn't come across as stronglately as he used to, but is that necessarilly due to muscle loss? I don't think so. It's called a 'slump' - and it happens to all players once in a while. No big deal, he'll get out of it.

    And you wouldn't care if he'd need steroids? Well I most certainly would, as that would essentially mean that he's cheating, and I'm pretty sure he'd never want to do that.
     
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    Yes I heard this!

    It is clear for whatever reason that Nadal has lost quite a lot of weight. 15 lbs is quite a lot for anyone, certainly an athlete like Nadal. It was apparently according to Mark so that there is less weight/strain on his knees, which would make sense!
     
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    Roddick also lost 15 lbs last winter in preparation for 2009, working with Stefanki.

    Nadal has lost weight to ease the load on his knees.
     
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    Of course it bothers me if he was cheating. What I meant was whatever it takes to get him back to the usual form, then he can compete at a high level. Notice this year AO, he won back to back matches in 5 brutal sets against Verdasco and Federer. Rafa’s current form would never have that energy and strength to beat them back to back.
     
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    First of all,Rafa was abused on HC even last year,when he was "using". Second,big muscles don't help you in tennis,in fact you will be fatigued faster because big muscles consume more oxigen.I for one am sick of the whole "is nadal's biceps smaller" contest. The weight loss is mostly in the legs people!!!

    Nadal's problem is one of adjusting to his new "game"(if one can call it that),because he can't get any rhythm on his shots(his game was improving during USO but then he got sidelined again with stomach injury) and because he isn't as focused as before. It's a process,he is working on it,but he can't get a string together a few good games right now,let alone win tournaments.

    Rafa has lost some racket head speed but it's not that significant.I have seen him hit like before in a few matches but he could rarely do it more than a few games at a time. His shots aren't really timed well nowadays(he is worse in practice as well from what I have heard) and to make it worse he is on a surface that takes time away from him. Also,he seems tentative to me,he doesn't seem to push his knees anymore and it seems to me that he has some problems playing on his BH side,he moves worse to the right than to the left from what I have seen.

    Rafa has lost a bit of muscle from the upper body,has lost quite a lot from his legs and he has lost timing on his shots,not to mention confidence. I am looking forward to DC to see how he does on clay.
     
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    Roddick lost 15 lbs of body fats, but Rafa lost muscles. Big difference.
     
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    LOL.

    I didn't realize he was placing his legs thru the arm holes in his shirt.
     
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    ^^^He looks thinner to me.

    Thanks for confirming he has lost weight.
     
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    Agreed. There are many tards on this forum who do not use common sense.
     
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  38. And where exactly is the weight gone from?

    For someone who goes around insulting just about everyone for being an ignoramous, you sure should take a look in the mirror sometime.
     
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    from his toes.
     
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    Uh oh... he's 'using' again! :roll:

    Rafa... able to go from wimp to muscle bound within the span of 3 days!
     
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    Drakulie, can you please post your stats? Age, weight, height, training history. Maybe best bench-press, best squat and deadlift. I'm curious to know what kind of a training background you have as you seem to know a lot about muscle mass, athletes and strength training.
     
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    ^^^what does any of that have to do with me looking at a player and seeing he is thinner? BTW, my eyesight is 20/20, FYI.
     
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    Nadal has admitted to losing 15lbs according to Mark Philippoussis!

    Losing weight is not likely to have a huge impact on his game. Nadal has clearly lost confidence at the moment, and it will be interesting to see if he gets it back soon!

    The game of tennis needs a confident/fit Nadal at the moment. He had more fans at the O2 than anyone, along with Federer!
     
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    In that case,,,,, according to the hysterical, love-struck Nadal fans on this board, that would make Nadal a Rafa hater.
     
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    Based on your above statement, you are implying that you have above average knowledge of human physiology, endrocrine system as you seem to know what the players are taking and when they stop taking PE substances.

    It's not a trick question, I just want to know your training history. Height, weight, # of years training, best bench press, best squat/deadlift. Don't be shy, I will take your statements at face-value and not infer anything.
     
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    and again, what does this have to do with seeing a player as being thinner???


    Here is a link on EPO:

    http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/epo.html

    do your own research.

    BTW, you never responded to my post in this thread:



    Now, go buy yourself a pair of glasses.
     
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    Unlike you, I not on these forums everyday, for multiple hours a day and I did not see your post. To answer you question, I'm now a 4.5 players, was on my tennis team (division I).

    How are you so familiar with spotting someone who took EPO? Did you take it at some point?

    How come you didn't answer my question about your training history?
     
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    His polos definitely make him look smaller, but I think he is thinner overall. I dunno if it's 15 pounds, but it's something. Look at videos from 2006/2007/2008 and he just looks a lot bigger than he is now. Again, I think part of that is the shirts, but it can't account for all of it.
     
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    Nadal would never use this because it's very dangerous. He wouldn't have any reason to risk his life for tennis, knowing that he always had money and a good education.
     
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