Nadal: 'I Am Not The Favourite'

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  1. Talker

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    What is he supposed to say?

    He simply said he is "not the biggest favourite". Fair enough.
     
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    in all seriousness, the number 1 seed IS expected to win the tourney, and the number 2 is expected to get to the final.
     
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    Well given he is no.3 seed, then his comments are fair enough I guess?
     
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    He's right. No need to make a big deal out of this.
     
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    He is the favourite! Blog updated for MC if you care to read it! :)
     
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    Nadal always says this. He'll probably say it at the French this year.
     
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    He might, but he never would if he was no. 1 in the world
     
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    This is funny. We've been hearing Nadal say this before every Hard
    court tournament - especially the slams - for years, and we rolled our eyes then. Now he says it before Monte Carlo where he is the 8 times defending champion! He must have lost a bet to say that, no?
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHA.

    haha
     
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    So, he'll basically win it against all odds. Sounds pretty awesome! :)
     
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    Nadal likes to be the underdog who tries his hardest. It's less pressure than proclaiming that you're the favourite.
     
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    Lol...according to Rafa, he is always the underdog in every single match he plays! That's how he likes to see himself. Maybe it's one of his many superstitions never to be seen as the favourite along with aligning his water bottles, never stepping on the lines when not playing, brushing his hair behind each ear and picking at his shorts before serving etc etc! :)

    Mind you, you should see the look on his face on the rare occasion he actually loses any of these many matches he professes not to be the favourite for! ;)
     
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    Maybe he didn't mean that he isn't the favorite for the bookmakers and the odds for winning the tournament, but that he isn't the favorite in the hearts and minds of the fans watching Monte Carlo.

    Which, ofcourse, will always be Jurgen Melzer.
     
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    There is a need of "Muhammad Ali type" tennis players
     
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    What I can't fathom is why this would bother anyone.
     
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    No one should ever believe in their head that they're the favorite when playing against the top echelon players. It's arrogant and only leads to disappointment.
     
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    Nadal was the favorite before the tournament. Turn it around as much as you like.
     
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    To be fair Nadal could come to my club and have to play me and he would still say he has to play his best if he wants to win no? And that he will try his best and give the sense of being almost an underdog, when he reality he would win blindfolded.
     
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    Not much confidence in your tennis game I guess...
     
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    Uh, not turning anything around. I don't believe in all that b.s. I don't think a winner can be determined before a match is played. Anything can happen, that's the nature of sports. I think you have to look at all of the factors surrounding a match in order to make a decent judgment. The past is not an indicator of the future.

    IMO, coming off of a 7 month layoff, playing lower ranked players does not properly prepare you for the battle tested warriors that have been playing for months and have their games grooved. That is no an easy task. Expecting players to be robots and coming back at full strength is illogical.

    You can believe in favorites all you want, but you can't ascribe your reasoning to me because we're two different people who obviously don't think alike.
     
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    Nadal was clearly the favorite before the tournament, the best way to see that was to checks the odds on bet365
     
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    Yea anything can happen yet Nadal won the last 8 editions prior to 2013.
    You seriously need to check the definition of "favorite". I'll give you a hint. It means MOST LIKELY TO WIN given the past record. Nobody awarded Nadal the trophy before the tornament started but only a fool would've picked anyone else other than the 8-time defending champion as a favorite.
     
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    I have confidence against the guys I play against :) but can't say I have a whole lot of confidence v one of the greatest players ever :)

    Doesn't change the fact he would still probably talk down his chances and make it sound like a tough match beforehand!
     
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    I don't play much tennis in fact I rarely play and have never taken lessons, but I'd bet a lot of money that I could at least take a set off Nadal on clay, if not win the match. :)
     
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    I'm not wasting any time on him. I don't even know how he/she got off of my ignore list, but it's been rectified, lol.
     
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    I don't get why you're so upset when you yourself predicted that "Cvac" would beat Ralph. :lol:
     
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    I'm not into that just because you are. I don't believe in that stuff. Fun for some, dumb to me.
     
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    Then there are a lot of fools on this board, because many people predicted Nole would win regardless of the past eight times. Does that make sense?
     
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    Nope, they were either Djokovic fans, Federer fans, Nadal haters or weekend hackers.

    Bookies know best - Nadal was like 1,5-1 to win the tournament before it started which means he was the FIRM favorite.
     
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    If everyone thought the same way you do, there would be no favorites before any tournament, every single player would be 10-1 to win, for example Jurgen Melzer would be as likely to win Monte Carlo as Nadal. Well, he's got 2 hands, 2 legs a head so technically he's on par with Nadal, you just need to give him a racquet.

    Is that what you're saying?

    Cause this way the bookies would go bankrupt.
     
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    Everyone doesn't ascribe to the same rules. I have no idea or interest in what bookies say. Anyone who predicts the future based on past results is a fool to me. Period. So, you can keep believing the bookies and I'll continue to ignore them because that's what I do. You can't change how I feel about the issue so don't waste your time. Please.
     
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    That's the whole point, tennis pro. We aren't all supposed to think the same. Bookies have no relevance in my life. I'm glad to not think like everyone else. That would make me a clone, now wouldn't it? It's the exchange of ideas that is most interesting, not whether or not everyone is on the same bandwagon. That would be very boring indeed.
     
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    Waste of time. I have no idea about bookies and odds, and no desire to change that fact. Sometimes we simply have to accept that everyone doesn't see things our way and move on.
     
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    lol 10 characters.
     
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    Don't be confused. None of his posts make any sense. There's no logic to the supposed to be insult. It came from another person like himself. There's a name for people like that, but I'm too much of a lady to call it what it is. The Tooth? What does that mean? I hope the majority of us are the proud owners of at least one tooth. Just another follower on the board without a purpose.
     
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    I like the bolded part.

    To be honest, I too felt that Rafa will win. I did feel that he is the firm favorite for the title. Now don't take this as a dig at you or Rafa, just my two cents
     
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    I don't take it that way. I don't have a problem with a difference of opinion. I think it's healthy, interesting, and fun.

    Anyway, I didn't think he would win. I don't think his game is back yet. He made 36 errors against Dmitrov and countless errors against Tsonga in that second set. There is no way I thought he was primed for Novak, or any top player at the top of their game.
     
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    Exactly, I would LOVE every player to be equally likely to win a tournament. This way I would always bet 100 bucks on each of the top 4 and be almost guaranteed to earn some cash. I guess there's a reason why people like you don't deal with betting. You would go bankrupt after 1 tournament.

    Oh and btw, Nadal WAS the favorite to win the tournament. Somebody had to be and since he won 8 times the choice was obvious. Again, don't confuse it with PREDICTIONS cause that has nothing do with claiming a player to be the favorite.
     
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    Rafa was the favorite but he lost. It happens. The favorite doesn't always win. I think everyone knew Djoko had a chance if he played very well and he did.
     
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    A good honest assessment by a Nadal fan. Kudos to you.
     
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    Betting has nothing to do with predictions.
    I bet on the most likely player to win, not that I actually PREDICT him to win cause if it was that simple everyone (well except you) would be millioners.

    Making predictions = bold statements. Just like Clarky predicts Djokovic to win every clay event this year but if she had to bet some money, she would pick Nadal I'm sure (that's what being the favorite means)
    Betting = analyzing what's most likely to happen
     
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    I'm sorry. I don't care about gambling, odds, and predictions. I don't care about streaks, statistics, or any of that. It just doesn't appeal to me, so for you to keep coming back hailing betting terminology makes no sense to me. I AM NOT INTO THAT. PERIOD. What do you want from me? To go along with your analysis? Bet on. Be happy. I am. I hope you win. I really do.
     
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    Veroniquem, this poster just called you a fool.
     
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    Off topic, but still, I see that you have more than 10k posts. I have been here since Jan 2012, never seen you around. Were you staying away from this forum for a long time? I have never seen you posting in entire 2012, thats why I asked
     
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    Let the excuses begin. We can start with Nadal: "If you are not at 100 per cent, [it] is very difficult to win against these kinds of players."
     
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    I've been here for years, but the forum has changed quite a bit. You used to have some very good posters, but the quality of posters has diminished. Then, when Nadal wasn't playing I didn't have much interest in this board, and there were more pressing issues to deal with. I posted sparingly in 2012..
     
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    Nadal playing against Marc Gicquel "I'm not the favourite"
     
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