Nadal: Indoor tennis is not real tennis

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  1. NDFM

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    He hit 19 aces in the match if I am wrong which he rarely does in his matches. It wasn't enough though Rosol just proved to be too strong in that fifth set
     
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    There were rallies nadal just got outhit and in the 90's it was usually servefests so that's not tennis??
     
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    Do you think clay tennis is real tennis? Ask some of your brethren on here(Whiskee,Monfed,Magnus,Drakulie,etc...)if they do,and watch the bile just spew out from the likes of them.
     
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    This. Nadal could not defend against Rosol's laser like hitting in that match.
     
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    To be honest I prefer matches were there is a balance so its not just all serve or just all rallies (if that makes sense). 90s tennis was great, I do try to find some on Youtube when I have the time becuase it seem so different to the tennis of today but I appreciate the tennis we have now.

    Rosol played the match of his life there was nothing nadal could do about that. He got outhit due to the many short balls he left on the court and right into rosol's strike zone and also the belief Rosol had in his own game that day. Many say this loss is the most embarrassing loss nadal has had, to me the only embarrassing thing was Rosol's ranking other than that he played as if he was in the Top 10 so as a fan I'm not to dissappointed.
     
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    Some stupid posters think clay isnt real tennis and ı can say hard courts isnt real.Who cares ??? Player saying this stuff is something different.I still think he didnt say it though.
     
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    Well, Nadal *has* said that the way they played in the 90's was not really tennis, so at least, that would be consistent. ;)
     
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    LOL!! Yes that's true!!!
     
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    Weren't those comments taken out of context or were the product of poor spanish to english translation?I believe Nadal said that he did not find that Sampras vs Ivanisevic match at Wimbledon to be entertaining. I don't think he said that it was not really tennis.
     
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    Cutting off the indoor segment from the comment also does not make it any better. The comment itself is annoying to say the least what a worthless comment, give some credit to the guy who beat you.
     
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    He said both, actually. There you go:

    Current Generation More Enjoyable
    Rafael Nadal believes previous tennis eras cannot match the excitement generated by the current stars of the sport. "Personally, to watch a Pete Sampras versus Goran Ivanisevic match, or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable," the 10-time major champion told The Evening Standard. "It's not really tennis, it is a few swings of the racquet. It was less eye-catching than what we do now. Everyone enjoys the tennis we play much more. I am not saying we are playing better tennis, just more enjoyable tennis. For me, in the past it was just serve, serve, serve."

    http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/06/25/Wimbledon-Diary-Day-Five.aspx
     
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    He didnt mean they are playing better tennis he means it is more exciting ı agree with him.
     
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    I never said anything about "better" or "worse", that was your take on it. I just said that he *had* stated that the 90's weren't real tennis, in answer to a previous post.
     
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    Thanks, man.

    Looks like Nadal is quite short sighted about tennis.
     
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    Wasnt 90s mostly about serve and Wimbledon losing ratings every passing year ? Or am ı remember wrong ?
     
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    Can't wait for the day Nadal retires. Then we can finally enjoy the clay tournaments.
     
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    Why so much criticism of his game? The butt-picking has nothing to do with his game so that is kinda irrelevant. He was just stating his opinion, I agree to a certain extent I wouldn't want to watch a match were it was just serve after serve after serve. I think thats why I appreciate federer's game so much its such a mix of the 90s generation (net play, aces at the right time, S&V sometimes) and today's generation with the longer rallies, angles etc.
     
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    That is a very negative way of looking at Nadal. He is a great tennis player and a tennis legend. Nadal does have matches were he plays dull and uninspired tennis, but so did Sampras. You make it seem like Sampras was a breath of fresh air every time he took the court. Serve and volley was not always "genius". It was sometimes pure crap.

    I think it is kind of disappointing that Nadal believes, without any doubt, that the tennis he and his peers play is of higher quality (entertainment-wise) than the tennis players in the past played. Of course, Nadal is entitled to his own opinion.

    Pete has nothing but high regards for Nadal's tennis. He even calls Nadal the "beast".
     
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    There are some clay tournaments nadal doesn't play in, you can watch those ones. And if I may ask why will that make clay tournaments better?
     
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    I have only seen the numbers from the US (TV ratings). Yes, Wimbledon was losing ratings throughout the 90's, but even the 90's Wimbledon finals got higher ratings than the 2008 Wimbledon epic did. :shock:
     
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    All ı know that as result of boring tennis 90s tennis lost popularity and never seem to recover from that even today.Plus Sampras is American for sure he has more spectators in USA then Nadal and Fed.
     
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    Easy, they won't be constantly reminded of Federer's failures against Nadal on clay (0-5 at Roland Garros).
     
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    Yes, they were. I think the journalists asked him why they slowed down the grass and he tried to give them a good reason. People wanted to see more tennis, not just 1-2 shots. :)
     
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    I understand what you are saying but by bringing up statistics like that all the time only makes them hate nadal and his fans more you need to stop doing this
     
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    Just ignore him :) he just loves to rifle up people
     
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    Dude, it's just his opinion, you can't force someone to be entertained by a particular brand of tennis. I'm sure that there are people that don't even watch clay events in spring because the points are too long, even in non-Nadal matches.

    Sampras may have called Nadal a beast but did anyone ask him if he enjoys clay tennis or tennis where the rallies are prolonged(a.k.a the exact opposite of the tennis that Sampras played)? If he is being honest, somehow I doubt that he does, especially considering his record at the French.
     
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    0-5 hmm Fed needs to step up and increase his chances to defeat rafa at RG, makes me wonder how fed who has everything in his game has this lopsided stat.
     
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  28. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    Just stating facts. Facts are what is important. Can't hate Nadal for what he has achieved.
     
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  29. RF20Lennon

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    Staying facts are fine but most of what you state is not required for example nadal is improved his mental against nole when beat him in RG (where he also achieved blah blah blah) the stuff in the parenthesis is what annoys people cause its stating the obvious we all know that so just state your point!
     
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  30. NDFM

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    This. That's what I was trying to say, he/she probably will not listen but I can see how a fan of another player can get so annoyed at this. I'm pretty sure he/she was banned like twice, it was probably because of the constant provisions of nadal's statistics
     
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  31. RF20Lennon

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    It just annoys people in general like Christi nadalagassi beastofmallorca are all nadal fans and they're pretty chill
     
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    Even though he denies it most posters agree he used to be bullzilla. And Nadal Slam King due to the similar characteristics of posting
     
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    You and those who respond to the obvious nadal trolls feed them and keep them a issue on this site. That's why we have so many zilla accounts around here, too many people respond to their obvious flaming posts.
     
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    Trying to put aside the dominance Rosol showed in the 5th set? Don't think so. Anyway Rosol beat him fair and square. As the comms said correctly Nadal is the higher ranked and more experienced and there should be experienced for situations like that.
     
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    Yes that's true I agree
     
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    He is right about the slow HC. The solution would be to make it fast so he can get rosoled more often. :)
     
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    Wow i didnt now nadal lost to rosol on a fast hard court, i wonder what surface they were playing on at wimbledon this year. I wouldn't call it getting rosoled as it took him 5 sets to get the win, really for a demolition job it should have taken 3 quick sets
     
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    Rafa should tremendous mental strength to get the first otherwise would've been straights!! He saved a lot of set points
     
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    You have to understand just how horrible the past four months have been for his trolling, and just how angry and bitter he is right now.

    As NSK and bullzilla he used to delight in trolling fed fans ad nauseum with every single H2H victory, and whip them into a tizzy with tendentious musings about Nadal's apparent invincibility.

    These type of posts reached their pinnacle this past June when his beloved swept through the red clay season and won his 7th RG. At that point NSK/1-3-0's predictions were about the beginning of some sort of ungodly 2-3 year winning streak in which Nadal would start sweeping every major and most MS 1000s. And since his hatred of Federer knows no bounds, NSK/1-3-0 posted incessantly about Federer's twilight, irrelevancy, and imminent retirement. The lynchpin of his logic was that if Nadal beat Federer then Nadal was a better player than Federer, accomplishments be damned.

    But the wheels sure fell off of that train in a hurry, no?

    Imagine -- just imagine -- his horror at Nadal's humiliating bushwacking on the grass to the 100th ranked player in the world. That 5th set was indeed a joke since Rosol was letting bombs fly at will. Not even Federer at the worst moments of his decline ever went out in the second round of a major to a career journeyman who'd never before made it out of qualies.

    And then the withdrawals from the Olympics, Toronto, Cincy, USO, and the reports about his beloved's poor knees.

    But what really salted the wound is the re-emergence of Federer to win his 7th SW19 and reclaim the world #1 spot as he soundly defeated Djoker and Muzz. True, Fed didn't win gold or the USO, but he's still #1 and still playing.

    So it's easy to see why NSK/1-3-0 still feels compelled to try and troll post. He's been obsessed with it for quite some time now, and created new accounts to continue doing so after every previous banning. But his bitterness and anger have put him in such an awkward position since he knows -- just as well as the rest of us do -- that Nadal's career may be forever compromised from this point.

    And what little that may be left of his beloved's career could very well be spent wallowing in the fragile shadow of the player that he was but mere months ago.
     
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    This made my day!!!!!! :D
     
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    I dont remember anyone saying clay is not tennis.
     
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    You are indeed dangalak. You choose a perfect nickname for yourself.:)
     
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    Nadal exerts 5Gs on his knees over and over, just can't be done long term. Was measured on a force plate so he knows the facts.
     
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    Cleary Nadal is not a "real tennis player" either.
     
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    Real football/basketball is played in the street, Rafa :)
     
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    What Nadal is really upset about is that Rosol didn't crumble in the 5th set like he was supposed to.
     
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    Just like Berdych didn't crumble in the 4th set at the USO like he was supposed to.
     
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    With all the respect do you seriously put Berdech same league player with Rosol? Berdeych top 10 player has beaten Fed before in a major.Rosol is NOBODY.
     
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    I don't like Fed, but let me put it this way: had Falla beaten Fed at Wimbledon a few years back, his performance would not have been remembered as much as Rosol's....if at all.
     
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    I don't know about that. Fed was the #1 seed and defending champion, with 6 Wimbledon titles, and this was a first-round match.
     

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