Nadal: Indoor tennis is not real tennis

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  1. Clarky21

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    You don't get it. I was referring to how Berdych is labelled a mental midget who crumbles at the drop of a hat by the geniuses around here. They always talk about how he can't win the big matches. The fury really got bad toward him when he didn't beat Nadal at the AO this year,and when he lost to Nadal at Rome this year. This forum has a search function;use it and see for yourself.
     
  2. The Dark Knight

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    Long story .....but I met Agi Szavay and her coach Gabor Koves. ( Agi is out with a back injury and will probably retire).....

    But anyway her coach says he talked to Nadals people and he is so injured that he is not even working out.

    Nadal may be done.
     
  3. Viper

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    That isn't the first time he's said something like this. I remember a few months ago him saying that the courts should adapt to him, rather then him adapting to the courts.

    Nadal is a clown and a whiner.
     
  4. Clarky21

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    Yeah,and my friend's cousin's cousin said that her friend's brother heard from his co-worker's 3rd cousin that Nadal isn't working out because he is so injured. :roll:


    He actually has been working out,and has posted it all over Facebook,and has said so in interviews. I think I will choose to believe him over your supposed source.
     
  5. Zarfot Z

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    Yep. Only clay is a legitimate surface to play tennis on, as far as Rafael Nadal is concerned.
     
  6. Tony48

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    I'm talking about the literal performance of Falla vs. Rosol. Sure Falla would have caused one of the greatest upsets in history, but their respective level of play differed immensely.

    That day, many considered Rosol as untouchable. Had Falla not choked, I'm not so sure the same would have been said.
     
  7. Avles

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    Note that the indoor thing is in italics in the original-- it's an editorial interpretation, and IMO a stupid one. If Nadal actually specified the indoor thing why not provide his words?

    Seems much more likely that Nadal was referring to his level of play that day.
     
  8. The Dark Knight

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    Actually he heard it from correjta.
     
  9. Semi-Pro

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    go away...
     
  10. RF20Lennon

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    Really??? My mom's third cousin who is twice removed's daughter's friend's 2 cousin 3 times removed best friends brother's aunt's father-inlaw's brother's nephew's second cousin's dogs best friend's owner overheard nadal will be taking up golf for sure
     
  11. Sid_Vicious

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    Yeah, you are right. I am not saying that Rafa needs to be taken out back to be shot.

    Nadal has the right to have strong opinions about tennis. There are weekend hackers on this forum who assert that players they hate won in weak eras or are serving silent bans when they are out on injuries. However, players are slated for giving their opinions often.

    Trust me, dude. I am not upset about it.:)
     
  12. The Dark Knight

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    Hey believe what you want. It's your choice.

    I'm just telling you what I heard.

    Do you think I give a sheet if you believe it or not?

    Relax dude.
     
  13. kishnabe

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    Nadal speaking garbage since he is out of the game. Let wait for him to come back...to speak in a sane manner.

    Happened to Serena when she was away for a while. Nadal maybe misses the courts....that why he sounds butthurt.
     
  14. PSNELKE

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    AW cmon brah, who can blame him?
    I mean 99% of the Americans don't know what handball is.
     
  15. sdont

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    Spain have a decent team IIRC.

    And Nadal isn't American.

    Anyway, what about badminton? Futsal?
     
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  16. TTMR

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    There are several Federer fans here who claim, at least, that they do not watch clay court tennis because it is "too boring" (ie. Nadal wins too much). Look up: monfed, WhiskeyEE, drakulie, Lmskenpo. I'm sure there are more.

    There are also numerous people here who claimed that they were not even going to watch the US Open final between Murray and Djokovic, as they did not want to see a "push-fest" (ie. Federer wasn't in it).

    However, I can only imagine the metaphorical effigies of members that would be burned if someone mentioned they ignored hard court/grass tennis between 2004-2007 because a certain player monopolized the game with virtually no credible challenge.
     
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    I'm not sticking my neck out for the guy nor am I defending him, but he's not wrong about hard-courts being an unforgiving surface that is rougher on the body. That being said, I disagree with his opinion on indoor tennis. And he has an awful lot of excuses. That humble arrogance of his...
     
  18. RAFA2005RG

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    Nadal is talking about this thing called "tennis". You know tennis? The outdoor sport, played in summer? T-E-N-N-I-S.
     
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    Which of those two do you recommend Cinci to switch to in order to remain "The Real Slam"???
     
  20. pame

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    so mistik, who was not within a million miles of the interview, knows more (even clearly so) than the interviewer who was actually at the interview - yeh riiight
     
  21. Antonio Puente

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    Weren't you at the top of the list of those claiming he was faking it?

    A month or so ago he was faking it. Now, he's finished.
     
  22. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    you mean Lawn Tennis?

    idiot
     
  23. dangalak

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    Maybe there was no credible challenge because Federer was that good.

    Also, even with Federer winning everything, it is enjoyable to watch as he plays a beautiful brand of tennis.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFbuF8ReeI

    I imagine this is your idea of hell. :)

    Btw, people saying that they weren't going to watch a final between Djok and Murray were on to something weren't they. :rolleyes:

    I also enjoy your ability to use the good old "some people among my enemies said X, therefore all of them say it".
     
  24. The Dark Knight

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    Nope.....Nadal is actually my favorite player.

    He is the goat.....when he is healthy he is unbeatable.
     
  25. The Dark Knight

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    Did u guys see this:


     
  26. 90's Clay

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    Aye... Lucky you weren't born 18-20 years earlier Rafa.. He would have quit after one two years on the tour..With lightning fast grass, deco and carpet
     
  27. TheCanadian

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    Some might remember what Verdasco said after his loss to Raonic: playing indoors on hard courts wasn't real tennis for him.
     
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    Maybe there is no credible challenge to Nadal on clay because Nadal is that good on clay.

    Apparently you can't see the position I was criticizing: Federer fans refusing to watch clay court tennis because Nadal dominates it, while simultaneously pleasuring themselves to highlights of Federer dominating.

    Monopoly over a sport is never interesting, I'm sorry. A sport needs some degree of unpredictability to thrive. Rivalry is good for the game, upsets are good for the game, underdog moments are good for the game. To give an example, Rosol defeating Nadal, in the manner he did, was good for the game. Monotonous inevitability and fatalism, on the other hand, are not.

    People that would rather watch Federer vs. Hewitt USO 2004 where the outcome was essentially predetermined and the result obviously unsurprising over Djokovic vs. Murray USO 2012 where the finalists were practically even betray their true nature as gloryhunters and groupies as opposed to tennis fans. Sure, for a five set match marred by wind, it was not particularly dramatic, but one would not have known that beforehand. Meanwhile, people knew who was going to win at the US Open in 2004, despite Hewitt's surge of form.

    I didn't do that. I simply pointed out, to a Federer fan questioning the issue, that for every Nadal or Verdasco or fan thereof saying indoor/acefest tennis is 'not real tennis' and is not worth watching, there is at least one or more Federer or Sampras fan saying clay court tennis is 'not real tennis' and not worth watching.
     
  29. The Dark Knight

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    Most boring tennis of all time....ace , ace, ace ace, .....thank the lord that's over.
     
  30. Paul Murphy

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    Agreed. Wimbledon in the 90s was at times deathly dull - hardly a rally to be seen.
    Unfortunately they've gone too far in slowing down the courts.
    The game needs variety.
     
  31. dangalak

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    Sounds about right. :)

    That's the problem: you can't prove that a majority of federer fanboys do that. Your anecdotal evidence doesn't suffice.

    Also, one could argue that Federer dominating is more fun to watch. :)

    You seem to not care about quality of tennis at all.

    Roddick was going to lose to Federer in USO QF 07, but the match was still a classic even if it was in straights.

    Federer's beatdown over Hewitt was a result of his quality, not because of Hewitt bending over. That's what makes it a nice watch.

    Did you know that I used to hate (or at least root against) Federer? I was annoyed that a guy could dominate a sport that easily. I watched his win over Haas in the AO 06. His shotmaking didn't make me a fan.

    What made me a fan was the summer of 08. He got embarrassed by Nadal in the FO final, to a degree which even I back then found too much. I thought that he should crush Nadal in Wimbledon to get back to him. And apparently he was game, as he managed to reach the final without dropping a set. But then he was 2 sets to 0 down. I couldn't believe it. But then I saw him showing more ball and more heart then I thought he had. Totally gutted.

    That experience made me a fan of him, not my "glory hunting" :)
     
  32. RF20Lennon

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    nah bro i was kidding didnt mean to offend you :)
     
  33. The Dark Knight

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    I was pretty happy with Fedal.....most exciting tennis I have every seen in my life. Nothing compares.

    And talk about variety? Federer with the most classic strokes and attire ever compared to Nadal and his insane strokes and knee high shorts.

    Never has been better than that in my opinion.

    Now it's starting to slow down again . I miss Fedal. :-(
     
  34. Sentinel

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    I am told a lot of Fed fans here stopped staying up late to watch his matches or skipping work during that period. They'd just wake up the next morning and check the score.

    When i joined in 2008, folks were rooting for the other player. It's only when he started losing in 2008, that people began taking interest in his matches again. At least, that's what I was told when I joined.
     
  35. dangalak

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    You love Nadal hitting to Federer's BH until he shanks? :lol:

    Also, baseliner vs baseliner vs baseliner.

    Watch Agassi vs Sampras or Edberg vs Courier for some awesome rivalries.
     
  36. PrinceMoron

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    Can't argue with that.
     
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    You're actually jumping to conclusions, here. Saying that you don't like one kind of tennis (whatever it is) is totally different from stating "this isn't real tennis". For example, I generally consider it a waste of time to watch two Spaniards going at it on clay, just like I hated the serve-fests of the 90's and you would never have caught me watching a Sampras-Ivanisevic match at Wimbledon (I'm more into *variety* of play, a thing that we get less and less in these days of "clone wars"). But both clearly *are* tennis, they just happen not to be my cup of tea. Just like when I don't like a movie, I just don't watch it--I won't go out of my way to create threads saying that "this is not a real movie", and essentially denigrate it (which is what Nadal comes across as doing in this interview, language excuse and all).

    So, yeah, arguing that so-and-so's kind of play is not real tennis and should be banned or forever asterisked is very different from just saying "I don't like to watch him play".
     
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    Why does Nads play WTF if it isn't real tennis ?
     
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    So they are not harder on the knees then? Clay and grass could not be considered more distinct, iconic surfaces?
     
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    Of course hard courts are harder on the knees (I love how you chose to say knees and not "the body"), and there should be more clay/grass courts, grass especially.

    But he implies that playing on hard courts is "wrong", and he talks about basketball... Reminds me of him showing golf as an example to the 2-year ranking idea. It's just absurd.

    And again from the way he talks about it (not for the first time), you would think players on the tour are dropping like flies. He has to take a step back and look at the decisions he makes, about scheduling mostly.

    Oh and of course, we won't ever hear about how the slow conditions throughout the year makes for grinding matches and how they are negative on the body. Now that I say is "wrong".
     
  41. sdont

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    Never heard of it.
     
  42. The Dark Knight

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    Great rivalries for sure but don't compare to Fedal .

    Plus Fedal was on every surface ......

    I think the two Wimbledon finals ( 2007 & 2008. ) were the two most exciting matches of all time.


    I would have to give Borg McEnroe the number 3 spot......but those two Fedal matches were by far the most exciting tennis I have ever seen in my life.

    The drama, the points , the clash of styles......you had it all.

    .
     
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    While we are at it, just throw another reason this comment was made...
    Howabout "Withdrawal Symtoms"
     
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    Nads is a pzzzy. He needs to man-up and stop whining about court surfaces. He's damn lucky carpet is gone and all the hardcourts/grass have been slowed down. I'm just sick of his complaining...losing respect quickly for the man...
     
  45. The Dark Knight

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    Personally I wish all tennis were indoors.

    I hate dealing with the elements. Such a pain in the neck.
     
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    I agree! But you need variety
     
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    LOL always funny..........the possum not wearing a banana bandana though:)
     
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