Nadal: Indoor tennis is not real tennis

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  1. Limpinhitter

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    Whole heartedly agree! But, the substrate of the grass should be firm like it is at Wimbledon. Not the soft, spongy stuff with no bounce that they have at many grass venues like Forest Hills.
     
  2. RF20Lennon

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    Hard courts are more economical though
     
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    I play somewhere there is a real tennis court, trouble is it is between the toilets and the tennis courts.

    I have absolutely no idea if a point is in play and end up waiting ages. If you walk past the court when they are playing it is a big no no.
     
  6. Crisstti

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    No, he never said such a thing. I don't care how many links you post to badly translated quotes.

    I can't believe no one else has pointed out that it was just a bad translation. :-? Way to spread misinformation.

    He was not untouchable. In the first set, maybe.
    He only won, what, 3 points more than Nadal in the whole match?. Untouchable?.
     
  7. dominikk1985

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    the hardcourts are indeed ruining the body. many great hardcourters have ruined bodies (agassi for example).

    but just going clay and grass is not the solution either (although I would like the grass season to be at least 6 weeks long with a masters). they need to develope softer and more joint and bone friendly hardcourts which should be possible with modern technology.
     
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    I am quite aware of what a squash court looks like but the point I am making is that the tennis court surface I refer to in USA does not resemble any of the real hard courts I have played on in any way. In fact the first hard court I played on had a sort of gravel surface on the top so that is was possible to to slide into a shot. All I can hear on the USA courts is a continual squeak and the players are locked into a position and heaven help them if they do the splits which cannot
    be good. I wonder how many of the long term injuries can be attributed to such a surface
     
  9. rafan

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    Interesting that Borg never had much to do with so called hard courts. I wonder if that wise Swede knew more than his opponents
     
  10. RF20Lennon

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    Wait what????
     
  11. TennisCJC

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    The only good courts are clay and grass, no?

    And, the clay court must be red clay because the blue clay court is not good court, no?

    And, the grass court must be the slow grass with the high bounce, no?

    And, my water bottles must be aligned at a 47 degree angle to the sideline of the grass and red clay court, no?

    And, my socks must be pulled up just enough, no?

    And, my underwear must be adjusted very carefully to be just the right fit in order to optimize my game on the grass and red clay court, no?

    And, then I am ready to play tennis, no?

    Geez, is this guy for real, no?
     
  12. RF20Lennon

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    Lol, no???????
     
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    Lol funny stuff

    Funny, he does have some crazy ideas and rituals. Why does he say all this stuff? All it does is hurt his reputation. The worlds not going to change it's ways for Rafeal Nadal.
     
  14. Mustard

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    There needs to be more clay, more grass, more carpet and much less hardcourt.
     
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    Or the guy could stop grinding and moonballing, and instead choose to attack once in a while. Strange how he is the only guy at the top of the game with this problem.

    Perhaps the problem isn't the game, but rather the way he plays it.
     
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    I don't suppose the McDonald's binges and meth might be a factor there? Pete seems to be doing just fine despite the "body ruining" hard courts.

    Federer seems to be doing just fine too, despite being 31, playing so much hardcourt tennis and winning many titles during the era when Master's 1000 finals were best of 5 sets...
     
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    this made me laugh
     
  18. Lefty78

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    But hardcourt is the surface of the proletariat
     
  19. Crisstti

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    There have obviously been plenty of players with lots of injury problems...
     
  20. tennissportsrog

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    again... Nadal says always selfish and ego.


    A push of ego two-year ranking. Boycott threat. resigns from an ATP players' association suddenly. requests "Increase clay." etc.


    I wish, This selfish arrogant moron to retire soon.



    Seriously.
     
  21. Lovely_Bone

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    You guys are crazy if you thing he actually said that... Nadal OWNS and indoor tennis court. In fact, Nadal almost always practices on his indoor court during the hard court season.
     
  22. RF20Lennon

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    Carpet and hard are ver similar though
     
  23. Steve0904

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    Well he's not that great on it if he does in fact own an indoor court.
     
  24. tennissportsrog

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    nadal's usual thing
     
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    Three cheers for originality!
     
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    He's the Yoda of tennis. Easier are the hard courts not better. Matches what I don't win isn't real tennis, no? Oh ho ho ho. No.
     
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    really clarky? really?

    God, I havent been on the boards for ages and now I remember why.
    How old are you, 13?
     
  28. SLD76

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    it may be because they didnt camp out 20ft behind the baseline and actively seek to play 20 stroke rallies on a HC.
     
  29. joeri888

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    Well, when i watch Nadal, i get the same feeling Nadal has with indoor tennis apparently. Shame on both of us.
     
  30. RF20Lennon

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    I get the feeling there might have been a translation error
     
  31. smoledman

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    Strange that Nadal is the only guy at the top of the game that has no problem racking up important clay titles. I wonder why?
     
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    one word for this threat: haters
     
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    I don't blame him. He got absolutely thrashed towards the end and he's allowed to be upset. I agree about too much tennis being played on the hard courts. What other sport is played on concrete? Paintball?
     
  34. RAFA2005RG

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    Nadal is one of the few players in history to beat Djokovic and Murray in an indoor event (2010 World Tour Finals). He also took a set off Federer in that event.
     
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    So? Federer was already done back then right, since winning max. 1 slam in a year means youre done. See your other post in other thread today.

    Nadal is a very good indoor player, and should never ever make the kind of stupid remark, this thread says he made.

    So you have three options:
    1) Indoor tennis is not real tennis
    2) Nadal didn't say that
    3) Nadal made a moronic comment

    Which one is it?
     
  36. Romismak

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    Actually i think outdoor tennis is not real tennis - with wind like USO or playing in very hot temperature, it is more about who is more fitter will survive - yes adapting to conditions is part of tennis, but i like much more indoor tennis, wich clean conditions, where players with weapons and talented players are benefiting.


    Rafa is one of very few players - actually can´t think now of anybody else in top that benefits from outdoor conditions, while is weaker indoors- while most other players are better indoors - with their serve working better, hitting cleaner means can play more agressive and so on

    Rafa plays with topspin that allows him to play well in outdoor windy conditions, he is extremely fit and physically superior to most of the tour so can ,,outbattle,, them in heat-hot weather

    + his insande deffense is bettet outdoor with ,non-clean, conditions than indoors whan with no wind anybody has it easier to hit through him.

    really can´t think of anybody else right now who benefits so much from outdoor elements in tennis like Rafa

    If i give it in % than you have something like this

    indoor tennis - 100% your potential you can play there

    outdoor tennis - with wind, heat and other elements - many players must play safer, are more tired in heat and soon - can play maybe 60-70% of their potential, because are limited by outdoor conditions, but Rafa with his topspin + stamina can play maybe 90% of his tennis
     
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    That comparison would be valid LOLville, if other players (especially other top players) accused CC tennis of not being "real tennis" but they instead keep their mouths shut and try to adapt to the surface as best as they can.
     
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    Federer is never DONE indoors. He won 3 straight indoor events to close 2011. Its like Nadal on clay. When Nadal is 31 he'll still be winning Roland Garros and the clay masters events. He'll hve over 30 masters shields by then, and more than 10 RG titles.
     
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    Of course, every interview/statement ever in which Nadal comes across as arrogant, excuse-maker or spoiled brat is the result of some translation error.
     
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    He never said indoor tennis isn't real tennis. He was only referring to the Rosol match and because of the translation from Spanish to French to English who knows what he meant to say?

    Topic title is misleading.
     
  41. Crisstti

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    You did notice that this whole thing comes from a comment made by the writer of the article, not by Nadal, right?.
     
  42. joeri888

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    So, Federer is outdoordone than? Should have said that the first time.

    And which of the three options above do you pick, NSK?
     
  43. Avles

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    Nadal didn't even make that "statement"-- it was an editorial interpolation. There's no actual evidence that Nadal was referring to the indoor venue.

    sheesh
     
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    Nadal: Indoor tennis is not real tennis

    God: Real Tennis is played indoor.

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  45. rufus_smith

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    Heh, let's not let the facts stand in the way of a fun 196 post TT thread.
     
  46. zagor

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    I don't speak/understand French so no, I didn't.
     
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    Wow, congratulations. Especially on the second part.
     
  48. Clarky21

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    Then you don't say anything if you don't know what's going on. You jumped first without having a clue. Keeping uninformed opinions to yourself can be a virtue,you know.
     
  49. zagor

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    I'll say what I want to say (assuming it doesn't break forum rules obviously) when I want to say it.

    Jumped? No, I made a general observation regarding the tendency around here for any Nadal's statement that portrays him differently than the saintly humble image his fans have of him to be dismissed as an error in translation or down to his poor English.

    Practice what you preach.
     
  50. Clarky21

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    Go ahead and make yourself look silly then. You opened your mouth without even knowing what was going on. Makes perfect sense when I think about who I am talking to,though.
     

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