Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Ripper, Jun 15, 2007.
Also, he needs to hit with his right arm...
See how stupid it sounds?
Oh man, I almost fell out of my chair laughing. Thank you for some clarity on this issue.
Exactly what I was thinking!
He needs to develop shorter shorts and sleeves.
Nadal also needs to change his grip.
I hate these topics, Fed needs to develop this, Nadal needs to develop that. They're all quite pointless.
I think this thread is a sarcastic response to an earlie thread sugesting Roger should play with 2 handed bach hand if he wants to win French
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery. Thanks .
On the other hand...you may actually have a point. Nadal actually does slice with one hand....and its a pretty damn good slice. very overlooked by most.
I think he should also probably switch to a 90 sq inch. or less racquet...
Delude yourself if it lets you sleep at night. :roll:
Yep, especially that one handed slice on match point vs Federer at last years Wimbledon. Federer fell over on that shot, good thing he held onto his racquet.
Somebody's imitation is somebody else's sarcasm.......
Nadal can hit a 1hbh. He's done it in practise. Obviously nowhere near as good as his 2-hander.
well....4000 views and like 400 posts and now an actual string simply in honor of me? And all for simply saying Fed should uses a 2 hander against nadal at the FO? Damn I truly am flattered.
It just goes to show you how stubborn people are too change. Just remeber everyone was agianst Columbus when he said the world was round.
You want Fed to do the same old thing over and over again. Fed will continue to lose at the FO if he keeps this up.
In fact, now that his weakness is so completely exposed I predict everyone will be hitting high topspins to his backhand.
and thats why Federer can simply give a two hander a try against Nadal on this high backhands.
Nadal should change his citizenship to either a Swede or a Swiss and he'll win Wimbledon. It was clear that his Spanish citizenship hampered his grass court prowess.
wow. I don't remember that one. I am not sure exactly what you mean by "fell over"? Are you saying that Nadal hit an awesome one handed slice and Roger could not handle it?
You so wanna be Nadal's bum buddy!.........
well...I guess its time to lower myself to your level:
oh please, that has been the modus operandi for everyone since 2004. Agassi, Safin, Nalbandian, everyone has been trying to do that every single time they play Federer. Federer just used to most of it back defensively, waiting to unleash forehand winners. And now? He just hits winners with his backhand. Look at Basel last year, Australian Open this year.
Yeah Attila, that picture would affect me if I were actually a fan of Federer you mental midget..
You are sitting there just laughing away at how funny you are, yet, I feel for you deeply.. It's people like you that enter schools and workplaces and shoot people..
Thats a very valid point. There are not many people who can hit the type of topspin that Nadal can.
And please explain this magic topspin Nadal can hit.. I am sure everyone would love to know?...
And why can he hit it, and no one else?
sure...but its not really magic.
First of all nadal is I believe the only lefty in the top ten. His spin kicks the "wrong way" . Its very hard to deal with.
Secondly if you read this months Tennis magazine they call nadals stroke something like the "fillsbury flop". Its a trick stroke....its sort of a wild one.
Thirdly...have you seen the pipes on nadal?? He may just well be the strongest player on the tour. He can smack that ball pretty violently.
Fourth, there is an article in the other post that said exactly this...but I don't have time to cut and paste right now. When I come back though I will be happy to find it for you. Your anticipated cooperation is greatly anticipated.
Oh, I get it now.. You read something in a magazine, and then you jump on a message board like an expert and start teaching people the finer points of tennis?..
As for his "pipes"... Um .. You sooo wanna marry him, dont you?
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Pot calling the kettle black perhaps?
Haha nice try but no cigar. Nadal's slices does a good job of giving the points away unlike how Federer uses his slices.
Dont worry about it.. This Attila person is an attention hoar.. He is on a few threads just starting crap with people..
I suggested that Federer use a two handed backhand against nadals high topspin.
You have all suggested that he just continue to lose and keep doing the same old thing.
The only suggestion that I have heard thus far from you guys is that Federer should slice while pinned back at the baseline. That is complete suicide. I have already shown the weakness of that point....no need to discuss it again.
But the bottom line is that I have offered a solution and you guys have offered nothing.
Dude, Fed lost a grand slam final.. So what!.. Happens every year to great champions.. Alot of good players have lived without winning the French.. You talk like Fed should change everything, because of one player.. The guy is still only 25-6.. He has plenty of time to win one...
Again, your dumbness is almost laughable.. How old are you?
No what I said is that Fed should simply change it on high topspin shots at the french open against Nadal. His one handed backhand is obviously not working on those particular shots.
I stopped responding in your absurd thread, but over here let me take the chance of being redundant. Your suggestion would be laughed out of town by any knowledgeable tennis pro or coach. You have NOT offered a "solution", you have proffered an unintelligent and unrealistic opinion. The worst part is you tried shooting down other peoples more realistic suggestions such as a grip change more akin to Guga's with misinformation and skepticism. It is one thing to be wrong, but it is quite another to knock realistic suggestions to defend your off the wall one.
After a while it became clear that you are only baiting people to keep your absurd thread alive. Now you are boasting about the number of posts/views which only goes to expose your true motivation. I don't remember ever having any harsh words with you as I try to get along with others, regardless if their view is different than mine. However, according to other posters this is not the first time you have come up with absurd threads/posts/ideas. I wont judge you by their opinions of you, but if you keep this crazy idea going it will certainly speak volumes about your intentions/mindset.
Very well put..........
There is nothing technically wrong with Federer's shots.
Your suggestion is just amateur and ridiculous. You should stop repeating it.
Its obviously the wrong strategy against Nadal at the FO. I really do not see any other choice for him ...do you?
You are saying that he should just keep doing the same thing...then he might as well just give up now.
To be quite frank...federer was beaten quite badly. isn't it obvious he needs to do something VERY different against Nadal at the FO?
I think Federer should look to come in to net more. People have said this, but he hasn't really done it. Nadal hits with a lot of spin but those kinds of shots are more effective when they bounce rather than if they're taken out of the air. Some of the effectiveness of heavy topspin shots is taken away if you volley those balls.
Name one player who switches to a different backhand (meaning 1 hand vs. 2 hands) for certain players on certain surfaces. Just stop this nonsense.
He cannot come into net more from that position. He can barely reach the ball...LOOK!!!:
name one player who has ever hit a backhand like Borg??? In fact Borg was the very first player to ever hit with an open stance.
How many players volley with two hands?? But Santoro is still one of the top three doubles players in the world.
Who has a service motion like mcenroe, Roddick, or Tanner????
The list goes on and on.
1. dont make over 50+ UFE, 40+ off the fh which is herladed as the "best shot in tennis"
2. If you get 10 break chances in a set, convert more than zero.
3. regarding the high balls to his backhand - step in and take the ball on the rise. not as easy as it sounds but its only a matter of adjusting his timing to nadal's spin/power. no 2h backhand is needed for this.
roger has made a consicence decision to back up and let the ball jump over his head on the BH side, that decision is his mistake. hitting with 1 or 2 hands is not the issue, its where he chooses to strike the ball from
I havent read the original thread, but I do agree with the premise that its kinda ridiculous for Fed to use 2 hands at the FO and only for Nadal. It took Pete Sampras years and years to develop a one hander, and he started as a junior, when you can afford to at least take chances and allow a shot to develop.
The reason I am quoting you is I also think it ridiculous to label a message board troll (if that is what the OP is) a potential murderer just because he is a Nadal fanboy...dont you think that is going over the top??
I kinda enjoy the banter between the trolls in here, mostly dealing with tennis, but that I think goes over the line, and out of nowhere, especially in light of the recent events in the US, which have seriously affected many people.
i thought this thread was about nadal switching to one hand backhand how come it went back to fed?
Fair enough, and your concern has been noted.. I appreciate your up-frontness..
But I will ask that you explain to me the behaviour of a person that spends all his waking hours on an internet message board looking for fights to pick.. You gotta wonder about people like that, and in some way worry a little about their mental state? It is after all, just a tennis message board, and not a right of passage to greatness...
actually this post is about making fun of me. But thats ok...I kind of am honored.
Its shocking how my proposition has caused such commotion. You would have thought I would have said something really radical.
It just goes to show human nature. Most great ideas were laughed at by the majority.
Columbus thought the world was round and he was laughed at. I don;t think my proposition is near as radical but I cannot believe the commotion it has caused.
Nadal already has a very good 1-handed backhand slice so i have no clue what the purpose of this thread is.
He really does. Good point. people ignore that he has that shot.
Your doing the same thing...with equally bizarre and outlandish posts. Atila, while making outragrageous points, is at least demonstrating a bit of humor...
Oh, I have humour... Infact, I find it great that all you Nadal fanboys have a place to come and make love to each other, is kinda cool!;-)
As for your good self.. You have been on the boards for 5 minutes.. I have never had any dealings with you in the past, yet, because of one thread, you seem to think you understand me.. You have a gift!
Anyone who hits a slice as its supposed to be hit hits it with one hand. When someone talks about a one handed backhand it's implied as the topspin variety. Otherwise they'll call it a slice backhand.
The gift is simple...read several of someone's post and in your case realize immedietely that that person knows absolutely nothing about tennis in any context. For some odd reason you seem to think you know what you are talking about, that second round loss in sectionals in the 18's giving you some sort of belief that you walked away from the game with some understanding and ability in it (though I am just taking that from your word as you come across as more of a 13 year old with no understanding of tennis then a 28 year old with no tennis)...
I personally dislike Nadal and while appreciative of Federer am certainly no fan of his either.
See again, you have decided to make yet another smarmy remark, and as I have pointed out, simply have no knowledge of my playing past, nor what I do now.. You have a high opinion of yourself in that you feel free to make your dislike of other people known, yet I am still yet to see any evidence that you yourself have the right to judge others.. I didnt become a professional tennis player, and burnt out at 18 with injury and lack of desire. I am now 32, have a family, work a normal job, and enjoy tennis like all the other members on this board..
The point is, I simply dont have to defend myself to people who come into discussion threads and attack people, yet refuse to add their own wisdome in the process. Its easy to say things are dumb, and it is even easier to critisize. But to actually say anything constructive and intelligent seems to be a bit beyond your abilities.. It also opens you up to critisism if you yourself are deemed to say something wrong. And to be honest with you, you have shown with your stupid remarks, that you simply dont have the mental capability to except that kind of critisism..
If you want to continue on with this sillyness.. Then you will be met with a YAWN.. You are a fart that has started to turn into a turd!
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