Nadal/Novak at 30

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  1. Speranza

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    Holmes: What is the likelihood of either of these players being able to win a slam at the age of 30/31?

    Is it likely?

    Personally, for one of them I'd say yes, for the other, not so much.
     
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  2. TeflonTom

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    depends on lotta things - competition n what happens with surface speed mostly. but im guessin the point ur gettin at is - how well will their games hold up as they get older?

    atm both players play heavy defense. longevity with that kinda play aint good. as soon as u lose a step of speed, u go from highly competitive to kinda irrelevant pretty quick - see hewitt.

    djok, while he currently plays a lotta D, i feel can be competitive for a long time if he adjusts the way he plays as he gets older. he has a decent serve that could be even better, and an excellent return. typically if u have a good serve and/or a good return, u can make up for lack of mobility by being aggressive, getting free points, dictating rallies. agassi did it with his return, fed has done it with his serve.

    nadz i dont think has that option, just due to nature of his game. its more athletically reliant. who knows how long his body holds up, its been pretty good so far, but i think once it starts to go then he's finished.
     
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    i think it's likely. how many years have we heard people saying how nad's knees are going to give out but haven't yet?
    and that djokovic seems to have found a good mix of diet and training regime to get past his gluten and physical issues.

    if agassi can play with sciatica, dislocated discs, spondysomething (can't even spell it), and sampras with his pain, roger and his broken back, i don't see why nadal and djokovic can't.

    plus, they have the means to get the best team, and medical technology and knowledge have grown and will continue to grow exponentially anyway. they found the god particle, haven't they. wait. that's swiss.
    hmmm. okay.
     
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  4. Sentinel

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    Physically they'll be there. I think it's more a question of hunger and motivation.
     
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    I think they will still be guys no one wants to see in their draw just like Fed is now.
     
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  6. joeri888

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    Hmmm, If Rafa has the movement Roger has now, there really isn't that much special about his game. Serve? nope. Return? Nope. Forehand, yes very good. Backhand? Nope. Netgame? nope.

    It'll be all experience and a very good forehand, whereas Roger has an even better forehand, but also a much better serve to rely and build on, as well as a better backhand on this surface. Rafa might win a french open or something, don't say it's impossible. All I'm saying is that Rafa relies a lot more on his movement than Roger does I think.
     
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    Don't know about Novak but Nadal will definitely be playing his best tennis at the age of 30, he'll be a much smarter and more experienced player then, not to mention how much he'll improve various parts of his game (like BH for example) till then. The only thing that might stop Rafa from winning a boatload of big titles once he's 30 would be some strong competition.
     
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    Not sure if serious or trolling. I can no longer distinguish one from the other with you. :)


    Anyway, I think Novak will be able to play well in his late 20's/early 30's. He has a more aggressive mindset than Nadal which should help him adjust when his movement is not as good as now.
     
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    I would have come to the same conclusion, but would not have been able to rationalize it that well. Thanks for this. I might want to add though, that I think that Nadal has shown some signs of being emotionally worn out and if he has a hard time motivating himself, I don't think he will want to push his body for so long so hard. But only the future will tell, resp. Djok and Nadal will give us the answer... oh well, that is if until the some of the young guns finally step up to become new champs, otherwise they just might win some majors, 'cause of a lack of real competition...that would be sad.
     
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  10. DM07

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    Didn't Toni Nadal once say he doesn't think Rafa will even be playing past 30?
     
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  11. ART ART

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    Rafa has already a lot of injuries, knees, foot, ... , his tennis mostly based in athleticall condition. And he is already showing signs of it ...

    Djoko, is almost the same type of player like Rafa based in athleticall condition, but with better tennis skills. But like Rafa his having already a lot of small injuries in his back and in his arms.

    So both are mostly based in athleticall condition, rather than natural skills, compared to Roger Federer.

    ... at 30 ? ... they will not be there.
     
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