Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Mace, Mar 14, 2006.
Does anyone think Nadal takes steroids? I mean, his bicep is bigger than my hamstring.
well it seems he is perking up a lot of suspission lately.....
So is anybody with any body definition suspect? Nadal is not large, except by maybe tennis standards.
If you're impressed by Nadal's biceps until the point of thinking that he takes steroids you don't have any idea about musculation.
I go to a gym, I don't take anything unless tons of nesquick and my biceps is bigger than Nadal's. The strange thing is that with these muscle mass Nadal is be able to hold a match hitting the ball with this intensity so many times that a match requires; but his biceps size is not spectacular.
Edit: Verdasco's muscles are bigger than Nadal's, so ¿takes he steroids too? Please...be serious.
i'm also suspicious and it's nothing to do with musle, he's only fresh off a serious injury and he's like a cheetah, and no inhibitions. I'm aware he's young but he's not stupid and it seems more than a coincidense that he could return to form without a hickup...
hamstrings vs biceps...
do you + have you worked hard at your game for 6 hours a day for around 10 years .. then your hamstrings might have been stronger anbd maybe bigger that they are
nadal is a hard worker .. ( like most top players ..)thats the results he has earned and speculation and talk is cheap +for envious kind of people that should be working harder themselves.
Nadal belongs to a sports family that are extremely serious and strict with some behaviours, for me is almost impossible that Rafel takes something irregular to improve his performance.
Some of you noobs are hysterical. Nadal is in good...no, great shape, but his physique is nothing out of the ordinary. I looked like that (not kidding) back in High School - which was only 3 years ago. I didn't take anything except protein - which is fine.
The funny thing is, when I was in Nadal's shape, people even accused me of using steriods. It just goes to show you that some people just don't understand that hard work (and I mean hard!) and proper nutrition (plus good genes) can equal a superb body. Get over it, go do some curls and dips.
I do not really believe that Nadal is on streroids. But I just cannot believe that some thinks its such an outlandish claim, like its unbelievable for there to be suspicion. It wouldn't be a shock to me if ANY pro athlete tested positive for peformance enhancing drugs. In this day and age, how could you be?
Firstly, i was a professional kickboxer for 10 years and i'm in excellent condition.... My claim was simply that he could recover so quickly and not have any worries, so either the injury was not as serious as they claimed(Which i believe the injury was quite serious) r there is a posibility he may have sum...."assistance".... I've had injuries and i kinow it takes several weeks and a lot of competative situations to get back to where u were b4 injury...
I second that. But, didn't Nadal pass some steroid tests by now? Surely, he must have!? And if he did, this discussion is pointless.
You think he's on steroids because the size of his LEFT arm?
Is it possible, when you takle steroids, to develop muscle mass in ONE particular spot, except by an injection, perhaps?
Check out the rest of his body, and don't pay attention on his left biceps, and he's a pretty lean, skinny guy.
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Pure speculation, i doubt it.I would say he is clean.
Btw, Nadal is SMALLER/Lighter than he was last year.
No kidding, doesn't anyone do any crosstraining with weights? It seems American fans think little of Nadal's muscular definition, probably because American sports (baseball, football, basketball) emphasize upper body strength more than European sports (futbol, where arms resemble twigs). Just a theory.
Yes he is it's to take strain off his legs and knees isnt it.???
If Nadal is on steroids, he needs to get his money back! Have you seen his chest? His legs? The guy is skinny as a chicken with polio. He has something resembling a small bump for a right bicep and you think he's on steroids? I am an old fart with 16 inch guns and all I do is lift a little. My training partner calls me a pencil knecked geek. LOL....Nadal is little more than Twiggy on steroids. You guys need to get to the gym more....
Btw, he's one of my favorite players, so this is not a knock on Rafa. In fact, I think the OP is slandering Rafa by mentioning it. Sure, any pro could take steroids, but I don't see any signs Nadal is benefitting from them. You need some evidence, not just wild surmise.
Jonny, guess so but after Puerta wonder if that is all? Think Nadal is ripped, shoulda seen Borg back in the day. Stood shirtless with Vitas, looked like he was competing for best abs in the Olympia, shredded.
Nadal ain't on steroids, but this dude might be. Notice the difference?
True, as people have said, Nadal is big only by tennis standards. However, there is a reason that the tennis standard build is generally much slighter than he is - the work you put into the game and the calories you burn playing matches and practicing hours upon hours a day generally make a physique like his highly prohibitive. Moreover, in Nadal's particular case, one could make the argument that with his game (ie: defensive/retrieving play and the mileage he cranks out) this should be even more the case. Realistically he should probably look more like Coria.
So it really comes down to fantastic genes or some sort of 'outside help.' While, in this case, I would put it to the former, the latter is not nearly as far out of the realm of probability as some of you would make it out to be.
What makes me wonder about Nadal's possible performance enhancing drug use is his unbelievable physical recovery after long, draining matches. He never seems to get tired. Being in good shape is one thing but I suspect he takes something. After all, he is a human being and should be somewhat tired after some of those exhausting matches. Puerta played so many five setters at Roland Garros and was found guilty of drug use. Nadal just hasn't been caught but I think he might one day be found guilty of doping.
BTW, did anyone catch Fernando Gonzales' "bag check" on the tennis channel? He pulls out a pack of tablets and says that they are medicine but he doesn't remember for what!!!!
he's young. I remember when I was young, not that I'm old now but 10 years makes a HUGE difference. I could play ball, tennis, and owrk out for days on end w/o really feeling ill effects. I do that now and i'm down for the count the next day oh the joys of being young.
That's it. Me being 34 know precisely what you're saying. I remember those days... oh the joys of being young!
Probably Goody's Headache powder, eh? Some suspicious looking stuff http://www.goodyspowder.com/
heard of hardwork? training? not being lazy?, just cuz ur skinny or fat, doesnt mean the guy who looks better than you is on roids
Nadal's performance enhancing drug is his passion for the game and the fact he practices.
This thread is stupid. No offense.
Without any evidence, its all just idle speculation, and probably not fair.
However, I think the people who are saying "no way" based on Nadal's body type have no better leg to stand on than the people who say he is based on his body type. Because not all steroid regimens are designed to develop the huge muscle mass that is normally associated with steroid use. Its not just bodybuilders and those no-neck guys you see in The World's Strongest Man competitions. Swimmers have taken them, sprinters, and plenty of other athletes in sports where its not really a benefit to be bulky. People a few years ago laughed at the idea of ANY tennis player taking them. I don't think people see it as so laughable now.
Its just the sad fact of the world today that no athlete is beyond suspicion.
That being the case, you have to give them the benefit of the doubt until there is a reason not to, or you're never going to be able to enjoy any sporting event out of sheer paranoia that everyone is cheating.
We are not using wrestling standards here - we ARE using tennis standards dude.
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Ok, you've got me. I've spent a few minutes trying to figure out what the hell this could mean, but I'm stumped. Care to elaborate, if for no other reason than to appease my curiosity?
Rafa has very little body fat. Therefore, his muscles are clearly outlined and may even look bulky, but it is clearly a result of hitting the gym and having no fat.
Did someone say they went to the gym and took "Nesquick"? Your training regimen is fake chocolate milk? You'll never look like Nadal that way.
I think Americans are just used to seeing fat people and when we see someone in shape we think they are juicing.
These speculations are just a testament to how good Rafa is at such a young age. He could look like this, and if he was No. 105, no one would speculate about him. They probably wouldn't even write anything about him.
I love hearing fan comments about Rafa during his practices and matches. Most people comment that he seems much shorter on TV. They are surprised by how tall he is. And secondly, they are surprised at how slim he is. They note he seems bulkier on TV. And I think that's true -- especially since Rafa has lost weight recently.
His arms are not that big. They are big for tennis, but any of the other guys could get arms like that if it didn't interfere with their swings. If you want to accuse him of being on steroids, bring up his endurance and how he puts everything into every shot and never gets tired. But then you have to remember how strict they are about drug testing.
Funny, never heard anything about TO juicing, and look at his physique
Agassi and Nadal take steroids but ATP won't admit it b/c Agassi is such a legend and most people won't watch tennis after he's gone. Nadal is generating a lot of hype for the public and alot of people are watching him.
Canas and Puerta? No popularity or status
Where was "Rafa" at no. 105 in the world. He was a scrawny shrimp before he took those steroids and now he is no. 2 in the world. He was a no namer before he took the juice.
What are you smoking, you have to turn fat into muscle.
He was 16 -- most players are no-namers when they are 15/16, coz they are still juniors. And he wasn't exactly a shrimp then.
That's impossible. You can't turn excess fat into muscle, unless you are talking about shredding fat and gaining muscle at the same time. That, or you are talking about eating good fats to help assist in building muscle.
Nadal may look bulky, but he is only 165 pounds, all that on a 6-foot frame. How often do you see 6-foot 165 pounders who have been on steroids for a few years? It is not hard to get a physique like his, you just need the dedication and knowledge. Most high school varsity football players weigh around 160 pounds. Also, just in case you were wondering about the vein that runs down his biceps, that is a combination of genetics/nutrition/cardio.
Im not saying it is impossible that he's juicing, just that it's most likely he's not.
Does anyone here seriously believe that Nadal is on steroids, or are you just fooling around? Are you that scrawny that you believe that for someone to have a muscular frame they need to be on drugs?
really have u ppl nothing nice to say about rafa shame on you
I could start a thread with this title:
" Davydenko and Ancic are anorexics" because the relationship of their weight-height is similar as an anorexic guy has.
It would have the same credibility as this thread about Nadal.
a version of 'gymnasium'?
a play on the word gymnasium -- gym-lazy-um?
Anyway, the kid's got game. I'm not a fan of his style, but I would love to see him play Federer in a lot of finals. I'm glad he's playing tennis. He coulda been a contender in a few other sports as well.
Check out Chela, Seppi or Juan Martin del Potro :mrgreen:
Chela: 6'3'' and 165 lbs
Seppi: 6'3'' and 156 lbs
Del Potro: 6'5'' and 172 lbs (he gained 8 lbs from the last year, he was 168 lbs last year)
Yes Nadal is on the juice, he injects himself 6 times a week and that's why he looks the way he looks and plays the way he plays.
Now, does everyone feel better about not looking nearly as good and playing not nearly as well? Case closed, losers.
He has actually stated in interviews that he does not go to the gym. Interesting?
Nah Return Ace is just showing off his non-noob status. There is a TW member by gmsalam or something like that. And gmsalam is buff and not on steroids.
There are a lot of misconceptions about steroids going on here. Anabolic steroids will not produce a lot of muscle mass unless you specifically train to build muscle mass when using them. Steroids can aid in recovery, which is why they are so often abused in endurance sports contested by the thinnest of people, like cycling or marathon racing.
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