Nadal on your All-Time List?

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  1. BobbyOne

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    monfed, I pray to the Gods (if there are any at all) that they send you some reason that you finally understand why Rosewall did not win Wimbledon...

    A little help for you just from a humble human being: Please research how many Grand Slam tournaments Rosewall missed by division pro/am, by boycott, wrong decisions by Ken's tennis federation and so on. I can already tell you that the number is higher than 45...

    Your darling has missed zero GS tournaments...
     
  2. pmerk34

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    Not sure what you are referring to. I believe Newcombe won it in 67.
     
  3. Azzurri

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    Boobyone is extremely old and feeble minded. He doesn't understand facts...think of it as dementia.
     
  4. Azzurri

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    I don't know much about that era/tournament, but can this truly be considered a Wimbledon title? Boobyone agreeing with you proves pmerk point about him.

    I looked up some information on it and it seems after this tournament Wimbledon opened up to all Pro and amateur. But how can this be considered a Wimbledon title? To me seems like a tournament held at Wimbledon.
     
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    After three posts from him, I placed on my ignore list, so I hear you. We are in agreement on this poster. My guess is 12/13 years old....
     
  6. hoodjem

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    Yes, Newk won the amateur men's singles event.
    But Wimbledon also held a (trial-basis) professionals only tournament in August 1967. It had three rounds: Laver beat Stolle, Gimeno, then Rosewall in the finals (6-2, 6-2, 12-10). It set the stage for an open Wimbledon tournament in 1968.

    "The Wimbledon World Lawn Tennis Professional Championships also known as the Wimbledon Pro, was a men's tennis tournament held in August 1967. The tournament was sponsored and broadcast by the BBC to mark the invention of colour television. It was the first tournament staged at Wimbledon that was open to male professional tennis players and it had a prize fund of USD $45,000. The singles competition was an eight man knockout event won by Rod Laver, who received £3,000."
     
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    That is interesting Hoodjem. That's a tough third set! That must have been a big change for the All England Lawn and Tennis Club and for tennis in general! You had the stage set for the dawn of open tennis. Then to have Wimbledon making that transition to pro tennis must have been a critical endorsement.

    Here's some video footage from that match I found.

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=1967+wimbledon+final&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=B563C95BEA0D41510B47B563C95BEA0D41510B47

    [​IMG] (I think this photo is from the tourney at Wimbledon in July of 1967, not August 1967 if I'm not mistaken).
     
  8. hoodjem

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    I always thought the Wimbledon Pro was in August 1967, but I am not positive.
     
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    Azzurri, Yes, I'm 99 but I'm surely tougher minded than you.

    I do understand facts. The problem here is that you don't understand the meaning of the simple word "probability"....

    I would have dementia in case I would believe you are a good poster...
     
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    hoodjem, You are right. It was held August 25 -28.
     
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    Borg #1,

    Do you plan to respond to the thoughtful critiques that I and others wrote to your opinion about the difference between the Former Pro Player section and the General section of the boards?

    Best,
    Chopin
     
  15. CyBorg

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    If only your critiques mattered.
     
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    None of this matters very much, CyBorg, though the process is just as important and interesting as the actual "rankings," in my opinion. The fact that other thoughtful posters agreed with my points and raised similar and complementary points suggests that my points matter. In fact, you responding to my post proves my critiques matter.
     
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    Yes! Thoms Muster. I don´t know why I call him Andreas. I always thought that had a nice technique and was fit ready for tennis.

    Well, I like others and maybe even more like:
    - Sampras
    - Lendl
    - Federer

    I cannot tell who is better than the other. As tennis style I really like Federer and Lendl.

    Regards!!
     
  19. heninfan99

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    5. Nadal. 5th best all-time as of now.
     
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    1: Federer
    2: Sampras
    3: Borg
    4: Laver
    5: Nadal
     
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    Once we got the right ponderating rate, it will be so much easier...

    As for now, Nadal is top 10 or maybe top 15 all time going by records.
     
  22. kiki

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    Biiingooo¡¡ and the same can be said for the WCT Championship.
     
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    So you are praising to the All mighty federer?:???:
     
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    It took great courage and guts for the most traditional event of all to do such a decissive step in tennis history and we shall thank them forever for this.After the purist AELTC leaders made the step, the others followed ( even if the australian would still take one more year).Of course, it had to be Wimbledon the first.

    Maybe the Wimbly officials did so because they could finally witness with their own eyes that after the pros troop had left the venered grass courts, there were no colateral consequences, no tifus or pandemia, grass grew up again, nobody got abduced by the devil and all the old stories the shamateur establishment kept vomiting about the out of law and perilous criminals that were people such as Rod Laver or Ken Rosewall...

    ...would you leave a pro babysit your two years old daughter??? oh¡¡ vade retro satan:confused:
     
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  25. helloworld

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    Nadal owned Federer so he should be ranked at least higher than Federer.
     
  26. Phoenix1983

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    Nadal is currently ranked 6th all time.

    1. Roger "GOAT" Federer
    2. Rod "Rocket" Laver
    3. "Pistol" Pete Sampras
    4. Ricardo "Pancho" Gonzales
    5. Ken "Muscles" Rosewall
    6. Rafael "Knees" Nadal
     
  27. helloworld

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    Fixed for you. ;)
     
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    you are one bitter human being, aren't you?
     
  29. Phoenix1983

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    So you have Federer as No 1 then? :twisted:
     
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    I think so, even though it's painful for him to accept the reality.
     
  31. BobbyOne

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    dpca, Thanks. I did like Muster's fighting spirit but not his game too much...
     
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    kiki, Before I would praise to Roger I would rather turn Muslim...

    Edit: Before I would pray to Roger...
     
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    kiki, David Gray compared the 1967 amateur Wimbledon ("margarine") with the pro event shortly later ("butter")...
     
  34. BobbyOne

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    1983, It sounds as though your list are the Six Commandments...
     
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    Why not? I mean its not Roger's fault that some folks here are less than rational. The guy could hit a damn good ball and move to the next one pretty well. I rather enjoy watching him play.

    I am being presumptuous. of course maybe you are tempted towards the muslim faith these days.
     
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    Where is Bill Tilden,Lew Hoad and Jack Kramer placed in your list? And why is Ralph at 6 when he can easily be outside top 10? And where is Borg? :)
     
  37. forzamilan90

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    his list is pretty spot on to be honest. Borg would probably be #7 right after Nadal
     
  38. BobbyOne

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    BTURNER, I have edited my post.

    I can assure you: I'm not an admirer of the Islam (to say it politically correctly).
     
  39. Phoenix1983

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    Yes, I have Borg at #7 and Tilden at #8.

    Kramer, I have just outside the top 10.

    Hoad, nowhere near the top 10.
     
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    So who should you remove from the list to place those players...Rosewall, Sampras, Nadal ?
     
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    considering tennis have been played for more than 100 years is there really any difference between being 6th and being 10th in an all-time list?
     
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    How many great muslims in history? I mean, not El Shaffei or Arazi but really greats? I would like to know.

    No Jabbar or Ali there.
     
  43. kiki

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    by the way, how is the BZO doing these days? closed wounds with FPO?
     
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    i think akbar was a great emperor who followed islam
     
  46. BobbyOne

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    kiki, In 50 years from now there will be many Muslim tennis players in Europe (unless their religion forbids sports at all...).
     
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    kiki, BZÖ is doing bad because their frontwoman, Jörg Haider's daughter, has surprisingly put down her leadership.

    Also FPÖ had some troubles with a leading candidate because he used the word "Neger" (= negro) which is not p.c. anymore and he had to quit...Curious times...
     
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    EDIT NOTED. I doubt Federer wants to be prayed to, so its all good. There is a lot to appreciate in his game, plenty to praise, but worship is for something much bigger than any player. We can best all keep that in mind in this forum
     
  49. BobbyOne

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    BTURNER, I agree totally.
     
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    I have him 2nd to Laver.
     

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