Nadal OUT of 2013 Australian Open

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  1. TheF1Bob

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    This news is fantastic. NSK's trolling has never been better! :D

    Poor Rafa though... the Novak diet wasn't for him. 8)
     
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    Have you got a source for this?
     
  4. NLBwell

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    It never made sense to me that he would start his comeback on hard courts. I'm sure he personally wanted to be ready for the Australian Open, but I can't see that being a very good thing for his knees. He can extend his career significantly if he plays primarily on clay. Kent Carlsson did this - only entering clay events, as did Muster after his car accident (mostly tanking the first round in hard court events that he had to play like the masters series). Maybe just play the Canadian and the U.S. Open and then one pre-AO and the AO. That would be only 4 hard court events per year and would still give him at least a decent chance at all 4 slam tournaments.
     
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    could it be that his knee is in bad shape but his sponsors want him to hide that so that his fans are still hoping and continue buying tickets, rackets and rafa shirts?
     
  7. veroniquem

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    I certainly didn't WANT to see it coming but the sad thing is I'm getting used to it by now. Since last Wimbledon, it's been a case of: he's gonna come back, yes, yes, he's coming back... oops, no, sorry :oops: and it's anybody's guess what is actually going on behind the scenes :-? It's also anyone's guess whether Rafa will be back in Acapulco. It's a small event on clay, so it should be pretty safe for him to do it, no matter how ready he is. (sigh)
     
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    Remind me what Nadal did in Feb 2010, after dropping to #4 in the world after injury? :p
     
  9. Mainad

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    Somehow, I always had my doubts that he would actually play the AO. IMO he never seemed too confident or convincing about wanting to play it. All his focus and comments seem to be on getting fit enough to play the clay season and he is now targetting Acapulco, a clay event, to mark his return to the tour.

    Frankly, it doesn't bode well that, after 6 months absence, he still doesn't feel ready to play again for whatever reason he gives (knees, virus etc.) and is progressively skipping all the designated targets for his return eg. Abu Dhabi and now the AO. As a clay event, Acapulco is obviously a more attractive proposition for him to mark his return but that's still way off in February and I won't be holding my breath about that one either.

    I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping and hoping that he will not become like Soderling who has been making constantly vague assurances about wanting to return but has been making them now for almost 2 years! But frankly, as with Soderling, I'm coming to the conclusion that I will believe Rafa will play again only when I see it and not before! :(
     
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  10. TheF1Bob

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    Be hilarious if he has to play against a Federer or a Djokovic in the first couple of rounds of a grand slam.

    Highly unlikely but still. :)

    Oh please... without Nadal, Muzza wins his first GS.
     
  11. underground

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    Don't think that will happen. It's possible but unlikely because Fed has enough rest and not burnt out like last season.
     
  12. veroniquem

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    I also wish his camp came up with credible excuses. A month off because of a stomach virus? Seriously? Who's gonna believe that? They'd be better off simply stating Rafa is not ready for the big stage yet.
     
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    Nadal should man up and play the AO if his knees are feeling better. Screw match practice play for the fans. Having a long layoff is no excuse for no excuse not to play if fit.
     
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    Maybe we'll see that they are really coming back when they have the Nadal-Soderling "Grudge Match Exhibition Tour."
     
  15. FedererDropShot

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    Looking forward to a Fed-Djoko final guise.

    They never met in AO Final have they?

    Seeing how Murray lost to a Tipsy a few hours ago... seeing ominous signs. *hehehehe*
     
  16. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    And in just over two hours, Nadal causes Talk Tennis to make almost 120 posts about him. Looks like Nadal really is the most popular player at the moment, despite not playing any matches. :p
     
  17. underground

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    The only final Fed and Djoker met was the USO 2007.
     
  18. TheF1Bob

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    Agreed, having diarrhea for an entire month and some is probably the worse excuse I've heard for some time.
     
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    This sounds plain weird to me. There's still time for the AO right? And he can get match play at Kooyong or Sydney too. It's just..
    So first he generates fanfare about his comeback at AD, then he abruptly pulls out, now he's out of the AO saying he can't play best-of-five and won't return till the 25th of Feb.. :?
    ...............................................................
     
  20. tacou

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    Assuming he is a top player when/if he returns, he will be a dangerous floater for awhile.

    However, won't he have a protected ranking?
     
  21. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    I know people who have had a stomach virus for over a month. In fact, here's an example of someone who has-

    http://www.steadyhealth.com/Stomach_Virus_for_a_Month__t74581.html

    So Nadal could be experiencing something similar. :p
     
  22. veroniquem

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    He CAN'T come back from a 6 months injury layoff at a SLAM, that much is obvious. It's just a shame that they keep raising expectations and then taking them away from you at the last minute.
     
  23. dr325i

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    you meant to say "more DELUSIONAL"...
     
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    has he had any knee surgery?

    if not, there has to be something else going on
     
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    It's about the confident he gives Djokovic ahead of the Clay season and he couldn't exactly pull out citing his draw, that would look like something was up.
     
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    I don't see anything that suspicious, unless you doubt he had stomach virus.

    Nadal has been saying for weeks that Doha/AO was hopeful, and even if he played his expectations weren't high. With the virus, he has been unable to practice for several days (crucial days considering he only started practicing about 1 month ago) and so those low expectations dropped to "Why bother?" basically.

    However in a larger scope it's strange...he was contemplating a return at WTF, then thought he might play DC final, and now he will be out until February.
     
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    Why can't he? If his knees are fine he should play. It's cowardly to pull out incase he loses early.
     
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    Why do you have to drag Murray into every conversation? What's he got to do with any of this? You seem to be weirdly obsessed with him! :confused:

    This is a discussion about Nadal and the increasing doubts about when or if he will ever play again! I certainly want to see him play again!

    Try and stay on topic! :twisted:
     
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    NSK you got "most popular" from all of this :)

    100 lols :)
     
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    He's absolutely terrified of hardcourts. He doesn't want to give the mental edge back to the top 3 guys. :lol: So he's going to make every effort to stall and maintain his confidence edge on clay. Genius stuff! Cowardly but genius! :lol: :lol:
     
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    Or he's just a troll who has nothing better to do than this. He's probably laughing his ass off behind his computer at everyone replying to him.
     
  33. 3fees

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    Too bad he's out would added to AO.
     
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    Soon he's going to announce that he will only play on clay from now on.

    Disgraceful.
     
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    How terrified is Nadal of Novak Djokovic off clay???? :lol:
    Nadal played the match of his life against a tired Djokovic at AO on a slow bouncy hardcourt and still lost. Now he realizes that if he comes back at AO and is drawn to play Djokovic in the semifinals, he's going to get obliterated in straight sets and breadsticked. ALL momentum goes immediately back to Djokovic.
    Nadal is scared to give the edge to Djoker. He can't afford to play the AO for fear of his clay season going to the dogs.
     
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    I'm skeptical that his injury is the reason for not playing. Anyone who follow basketball lately? Steve Nash of the LA Lakers had a small fracture in his leg on Nov. 4, he was sidelined ever since and got back on court on Christmas day. His injury is far more worse than Nadal, yet, it took less than 2 months of rehab for Steve to play againd, but Nadal is about to reach 8 months of rehab and still not recovered. And Steve is 38 years old(Nadal only 26).

    I wish the truth just come out so we can move on, because keep coming back with his injury is never convincing, and lead to more doubt.
     
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    "The" virus strikes again...
     
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    Cliff Klavan on this most recent development:

    It's a little known fact this Nadal guy is an obsessive Elvis impersonator so it all makes sense...an extra two months to brush up on the act and make the live revival of Fun in Acapulco. He'll be doing his best interpretations of all the great songs from this film:

    Vino, Dinero & Amor (Spanish for "love", no?)
    El Toro (a natural, no?)
    The Bullfighter Was A Lady
    Bossa Nova(k) Baby
    You Can't Say "No" In Acapulco (no???)
    Slowly But Surely

    Hey, Sam! Can I get that beer now?
     
  39. intrepidish

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    A wonderful thread full of clueless speculations on medical issues about which none of you is remotely qualified and that is saying something since most of the tennis analysis on here is pretty clueless as well.

    It's entirely possible to have a stomach virus upset your relatively weak and short preparation (it took a long time of no tennis to get to the practice stage and they were upfront about the knees not being 100% even then) and decide that it's not the right moment to give it a shot.
     
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    I wonder when Nike will run out of patience and cancel his contract?

    Time to appoint Nole - they should've done that 2 years ago.
     
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  42. Cesc Fabregas

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    FFS! Every time he looks like he might be back there is another setback.
     
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    I'm pretty skeptical that this virus is the problem. If it's just some illness and he decides not to play a slam because of that, we can at least get the 'great warrior, always ready for a fight and to win the next point, even playing and fighting while injured down the toilet'. I'm not going into the mono stuff or anything like that, but I'd doubt any of the top 4 would just skip a slam for a virus. Sure, if Nadal can't play Doha, he could play himself into form at the AO, and when his knees give in he could always drop out. It's just weird to call off the AO 3 weeks before it happens.

    I think it's probably that his knees are worse than they make it out to be. However, given how Rafa did have problems in Miami, did not have problems in MC, Rome, Madrid and RG, then moved okay at wimbledon, did not take any timeouts like he usually does all the time for no apparent reason, and then had an injury again. For more than six months now. I'm not saying silent ban, but I don't laugh at the people who do believe this. I don't see it as a farfetched conspiracy theory anymore.



    Anyway, it's a shame for the tournament. it would've been interesting to see how Rafa did. I wish him to get well soon.

    On a positive note, this could make the AO a lot more interesting. Imagine Roger, Novak and Nadal for instance landing in the same half, if Murray can overtake Fed.

    It also gives Fed a slight chance to win the AO imo. I saw it as a twohorse race really between Novak and Andy, because I didn't see Fed beating two of them on these slow ass courts. However, if he has to beat only one of them, particularly Andy, I think it's very possible.
     
  44. decades

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    it's all mental.
     
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    tennis is tennis. it's a myth that if you are practicing 6 hours a day you need "match play" to round into shape. it's BS. anybody who plays knows this. besides he could use the first week to get match ready. there are guys who can go out there after a month of not picking up a racquet and hit for 30 minutes and be 95% of where they were.
     
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    Find me a precedent. In my opinion, no top player would do that, not after such a long break, it would be a suicidal move. The last thing he needs after W 2012 is another early exit to another mug due to rustiness. He imperatively needed a few competitive matches before AO and even then, it would have been tight. When you think about it, a progressive comeback starting at a low key event and allowing several months of warmup before the first slam is a much better/ safer scenario. Personally, I'm skeptical as to how much they actually believed Rafa would be ready for AO, stomach bug or not. It was always gonna be a high risk proposition. IMO, they knew it damn well but as usual, they favor last minute shock announcement over caution. Maybe the tournament puts pressure on the player for that, who knows.
     
  47. intrepidish

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    I agree; you should get yourself checked out.
     
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    Jealous that there is another troll almost as popular as yourself?
     
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    Well I guess we have our Christmas miracle! How far behind Federer will now Nadal be for slams count at the same age?
     
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    I think if you're fit you should play. He's #4 in the world and a huge fan favorite, if he can run he can play. If he goes out early then he can blame it on lack of match practice anyway. I'm sorry but he's a professional and he shouldn't just be allowed to pick and choose what tournaments he competes based on what might make him feel sad. He gave his word he would play.

    I think it's quite possible it's the knees not being 100% in which case fair enough. But opting out because he's not going to get to play a couple of competative matches beforehand is not excuse. What would he have done if he played Abu Dhabi and went out in the first round? What's the difference between an hour on court getting bounced around in AD compared to starting at the AO with the cushion of a best of 5 set match.
     

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