Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by OddJack, Aug 9, 2009.
this is the 100th thread on nadal not being 100% for montreal. and i'm not exaggerating.
keep counting... did you respond to all other 99 too?
Thanks for the vid, Jck
Nadal hasn't been 100% in over 4 years. Time for him to find another excuse.
Nadal is the Lance Armstrong of tennis.
He managed to get 6 majors and reach the number one position with half a knee.
Are you making fun of him?
That's what makes him a possible all time great!
In the video, Nadal said he is not 100%. He said, "but sure 100% not." This also makes more sense, because it is followed by him talking about practicing and seeing where he is.
These accounts don't sound too promising:
After watching Nadal practice for nearly two hours yesterday one thing’s for sure: the Rafa fans will see this week could be a shadow of the Rafa they’re used to.
Hopefully a lot of it was jet lag, general stiffness after a long flight from his hometown of Manacor, Mallorca. He didn’t look very good – and he wasn’t pushing it.
For the first hour and half, it was mostly forehands, a few backhands. Even after an hour, Nadal was still spraying the ball all over the place. If he asked Roig (left) once, he asked him a hundred times: “Was it out?” Most often, it was. Or it was in the net. He was getting pretty aggravated about it, too, although there no racquets were tossed in anger.
Nadal did not test his battered knees yesterday, which were not taped. He moved more than two steps to hit a ball maybe two dozen times in all. When he did, he looked awkward – particularly when he was practicing returning serves on the deuce side of the court, moving towards his right to hit a backhand. A couple of times, he grabbed those sore knees.
He also said that for nearly two months, he had been undergoing five hours of treatment – every day. After about an hour and 45 minutes, Rafa called 'No Mas.' He headed back to his chair, tossed the racquet onto the bag, and that was pretty much it.
Rafa Nadal looked a little better on the practice court Saturday, as he went through his paces with Rainer Schuettler. But he still made an awful lot of mistakes. And he still was in a pretty cranky mood - almost resigned, more than anything.
If the knee injury ends his career, it will be a sad day for tennis.
when nadal is playing.hes always above 113%
that sounds devastating. hope he gets better, not for the sake of tennis but for his own sake.
that sounds devastating. hope he gets better, not for the sake of tennis but for his own sake. i recall one of the commentators on ESPN talking how in his tennis years he suffered from tendinitis, and the stories he told weren't very pleasant.
Come on Rafa. Get that head band on, those zany clothes and GO for it - like you used to. None of this "I am not sure" . I just can't imagine Rafa wanting to lose anything. I only half believe what I saw in that interview!
Daren Cahill, there's a rough transcript here
Thanks for the video. I think he actually says " I am 100% not" anyway it's good to see him back.
actually he is 115,75 % with a majoration of 3,5% in case it's a clay event!
thanks for that article
I dont see anything wrong with this thread, its an update on how Nadal is doing, the OP doesnt deserve to get critisized for updating you. Good thread
well.. this one special thread makes the fangirl flame war threads look like the louvre at night!
Is Nadal aware of the hatred he sews when he hurts his knee?
What? Nadal hurt his knee(s)?
sorry for the delayed clean up. If you guys really are using the reported post button, i'm not getting a lot of the mails...
Which ones do you want us to report, sir?
Anything against the rules is fine with me, the insults, etc are (especially) getting on my nerves
Unfortunately, I can't read most of the threads in full, so I need your guys' help
Holy crap I really dont feel good about some of the quotes in this thread.
I hope its all hype and not real because it would SUCK hard for Rafa and tennis as a whole if he is really in the shape these quotes would leave you to believe.
He just cannot find it in himself to say - the RG 09 loss was terrible and took a toll on me mentally. He knows it (I hope). Experts have commented on this. He needs to face reality. If he does not, I do not think he will fully "recover."
In a way, Fed probably faced reality at the AO 09 when he started to cry ... it probably hit him that he just lost it mentally in that match and Nadal has overtaken him.
I can only pray that one day Nadal's English will be up to the same standards as his tennis/attempted flights on court.
Then I'd bother watching his interviews.
I think at that point Nadal had realised his body was letting him down and Fed knew his mind was crumbling...
But now Fed's back on top. Feeling more confident, his wife isn't pregnant and hormonal anymore and Nadal's still injured.
I think that's enough to fuel him for another season.
Actually I think Nadal faced reality when he pulled out of Wimbledon.Everybody knows it's Nadal favourite tournament and he was defending champion.That must have been VERY hard to do.He has commented on the RG 09' loss.He said it hurt and that he had time to let it sink in while he was resting at home for 2 months.His problem is trying to strike a balance between nursing the injury and playing to get the rhythm and confidence.
Fed's situation was different than Nadal's.Fed was on the brink on the 14 and had been handed defeats in the last 3 GS finals by Nadal and the pressure build and build on him until he couldn't take it anymore.The only major dissapointments in Roger's carrer have been handed by Rafa and a lot of people were saying that Fed would never win a GS again after seeing him break down like that.And the anger kept on going as Federer kept losing and even broke a racket in miami.What calmed Fed was the RG win facilitated by soderling's win over Nadal.
Nadal,on the other hand,has had a lot of disappointments in USOpen and AO year after year,he lost 2 Wimbledon finals so it's not like it's been all happy fun.Nadal's problems this year have been with his schedule.He added a whole un-necessary month of tennis which did him in,with a little help from soderling(but it didn't matter cause davydenko would have beaten him too in that sorry state).His knees aren't getting any younger so he cannot recuperate as before,he has too cut down the schedule or else.Rafa's doctor said he should be ok in 3-4 weeks.It's been 2 months and he says he still feels some pain but feels good enough to give it a go.
Sure,the RG defeat jurt because he was never defeated there but Nadal's problem is much bigger than that.He,for the first time in his career,realised he cannot push himself this hard again,he needs some breaks from time to time.He has found out his limitations and that's pretty hard for someone as young and as exuberant on court as Nadal.Sure,he had injuries before but they came late in the season.This is the first time he has had big problems this early,since Monte Carlo.In this spring season he learned a very important lesson,at least I hope he did.If Nadal pushes this hard again,he won't make it another 2 years,mark my words.
Rafa has also stated that he has recovered from the losses mentally but his knees can't be doing too much good for his confidence.Unless he plays again he cannot win.And if he cannot win he cannot gain his confidence back,not to mention getting the game back on track.But if he plays too soon or too much again the whole knee issues start agains and he will be sidelined again.
His knee situation is the one that is truly giving him headaches right now,not the RG defeat.
I watched himn practice for 2 hours against Verdasco and I could not tell he was a guy coming back from injury....hitting really hard, running after balls.
My pics here from the training here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32794929@N05/page3/
Which epxerts said the loss took a toll on nadal mentally? bleacher report commentators perhaps?
Darren Cahill. John McEnroe. Brad Gilbert.
Cahill talked about the withdrawal from wimbledon being related to tendonitis and it was his opinion that it was mostly psychological. When did he say it was related to the RG loss?
and don't forget, Bolo, zoso, blindism
has it broken yet? you were so close all on your own, I figured a real newspaper person would have broken it by now. lol.
Nalbandian has been saying that Rafa's issues are more mental than physical. He must know something since they have the same doctor..... Cotorro.
Do you have a source for that?
yes, do you have a signed affidavit from Nalbandian?? Also, haveyou sent the signature on the affidavit to the FBI's forensic lab for testing, to make sure it is Nalbandian's signature??
You probably really thought there was a high chance of nadal not competing anytime soon. It's okay you can admit it. Lol.
actually, quite the opposite, Blindism.
Poor, old, aging *******
Ah, the ultimate unbiased source for all things ******-related.
Wow some unsolicited mudslinging through the medium of sarcasm, totally unexpected from a reasonable fellow such as yourself.
This is presumably stemming from my failing to bother reading your dossier of evidence and not proceeding to try prove you wrong. Your entitled to your opinion but trolling it in many threads at earliest opportunity is questionable.
The way i look at it, if what your saying is true i.e you have posted the proof, then a proper press agency would have displayed the same journalistic flair & followed the sports scoop of the year. As thats not happening, its a case of once upon a time in draks head.
Thank you for this. I thought people actually followed and read about tennis... I guess Bolo does not.
Agree with a lot that you point out. However, something I disagree is:
1.Wimby is not his favorite tourney. RG is.
2.I am pretty sure Nadal has not faced reality. It's the opposite. He seems to want to assure himself it's the knees. That's not his main problem at the moment. Even at RG he was winning until he met an overwhelming better player that day. At Madrid, after the finals, and just before Wimby, he said there would be no problems at RG and RG is totally different. No mention of his knees. It's just a matter of people figuring out how to beat him. Happens to everyone, including Fed. Fed almost lost, and in a way, Roddick played "better" on the baseline. 50 aces, however, seemed to be the decisive factor for Fed. Anyway, what goes up must come down. Nadal has definitely reached his prime or is on the decline.
3.Pulling out of Wimby is stupid. It was not that bad on knees - although I may be wrong. He said he does not enter a tourney when he is not 100% - at Wimby. According to him, he is not 100% now and enters Montreal. On top of that he plays doubles there. Knees? Cannot be. He MUST know he has to cut down on ALL "unnecessary" tennis - doubles and exhibitions. This is a no-brainer if knees are the source of the problem. They are seemingly not due to his actions opposed to what he (Toni?) says.
4.There is nothing disappointing about Nadal's career. And it is not over yet. He will decline faster than Fed due to his playing style. However, for people like Fed and Nadal, the mental aspects seem even more important. The only disappointment for Nadal, if there is one, is that he was unfortunate to be playing at an era where there's a person called Federer. Without him, Nadal would've been no.1 for quite a few years - which would probably have won him a few more slams inculding the AO and USO. This I say, is due to the confidence of being no.1. and being Nadal. Having said that, it is unforunate for everyone else that there is person named Federer - and for Federer he is unlucky to have a person like Nadal in his era.
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