Nadal says that his knee still hurts

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  1. THE FIGHTER

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    we'll see once and for all if nadal is doping come fedruary 4th. if he comes back looking fresh, we'll know he wasn't doping in the past. if he comes out looking crappy, we'll know he isn't currently doping.
     
  2. cc0509

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    Nope, not going to take your bait. You know as well as I do that there have been rumors about Nadal for many years. There are many articles in the European press and there have even been inferences more recently in the N.American press. You also know the players both current and ex-players who have made inferences about this topic, and if you don't google is your friend, it is all there.
     
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    You should talk. Is there anything that has come from the Nadal camp that you haven't believed? If so, I have yet to see it. Is "gullible" your middle name? ;) :)
     
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    What is the point? The point is that it is the truth. There has been the most suspicion around Nadal on this topic for many years. I am not a Nadal hater, I like Nadal but one thing has nothing to do with the other. People want to bury their heads in the sand and claim that doping is impossible in the sport of tennis, and that is a very naive position imo. By the way, I think that all of the players in the top ten dope or have doped. I think that most if not all elite athletes dope or have doped, so this is not an exercise in pinpointing for me. People have the right to believe what they want.
     
  5. cc0509

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    Realistically, if one is honest with oneself, one would have to come to the conclusion that they all do it. It is the culture and nature of the game.
     
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    I am no ******* and I have said I think they all likely dope in the top ten but on this forum and many other forums out there, the threads are all about Nadal. Why is that? Surely there has to be a reason other than the stupid standard response that if you think player X dopes, you must be a hater. That is just a knee-jerk reaction and it is silly. Take away your player favourtism for just one minute and look out there objectively and tell me who has the most suspicion surrounding him re doping? Be honest. I am not just talking about on forums but look in the media, both European and N. American.
     
  7. beast of mallorca

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    Don't be a hypocrite now dude. 99% of your posts are against Rafa, doping and etc, but mostly doping. Don't pretend that you are being objective yourself. If you think that the top 10 likely dopes, show me one single post where you specifically accuse another player besides Nadal and Djoker..........if you are really being objective. But it seems that the crusade is against Rafa.

    I don't have a problem with that, afterall you are a Fedfan. My objections are that you try to play objective and yap about the subject on and on like you have an actual proof. That's all you talk about, Rafa doping. If you have evidence, then show it. Otherwise, it's all yap.

    FYI: I will not rule it out, and it is not impossible. But he, along "with the so called likely dopers" are innocent until proven guilty.
     
  8. cc0509

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    That is because all the threads on doping on this forum are about Nadal or Djokovic. I have said many times I think the top guys all likely dope.

    As far as whether you have objections to my posts on the subject, I could not care less. Put me on ignore if you don't like them. We are all entitled to our opinions.
     
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    Don't worry dude, your posts per se do not bother me. You can post anything you like. I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy, that's all. TW is all fun for me...........:twisted:
     
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    Lol, ask the ITF.  Just like you yourself would like to know why Novak seems to have been tested so little.

    They went and tested Rafa after the French puppet show, so it doesn't look like their reasons make that much sense.

    Great post.

    Lol, my middle name?. It's you who goes: "it's all over the internet, so it must be true!".
     
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    The fact that it is on the internet does not make me believe that it may be true, it is the fact that there have been clues and circumstantial evidence bubbling around Nadal for almost as many years as he has been playing from different sources, not just one source. Again, I think that PED's are a big part of pro sports and I would say most if not all of the elite athletes have dabbled at some point in PED's. Try reading the news to see what goes on and what has gone on in all sports over the years, it may help, although in your case I doubt it. :) :twisted:

    If Nadal stated tomorrow that he was able to walk on water and part the Red Sea, you would believe it no doubt. :twisted:
     
  13. loci

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    he's lowering expectations.
     
  14. Crisstti

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    Yes it does, you've said so yourself.

    Nope, there's no circumstantial evidence when it comes to Nadal. Him being out injured is NOT circumstantial evidence.

    But I'm not wasting any more of my time arguing with you, you don't let anything challenge your preconceived notions.
     
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    I do not believe everything on the internet and I never said that the internet is the only source on information.

    There is tons of circumstantial evidence re Nadal, not just the absences due to injury. You are too much of a blind fan to see it. You believe everything that comes out of the Nadal camp, that tells me everything I need to know about you. The only thing you question re Nadal is fishing and who gives a hoot about that?


    You are right, don't waste any more time arguing with me, you are terrible at it.:twisted:
     
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    LOL I love it when Rafatards deflect away from their hero and instead bring up Federer or Djokovic rather than answering the question. So I'll ask again, why did the ITF find it necessary to test Nadal "6 or 7 times" since he announced he was coming back? ***crickets***? Just as I thought. They tested him so many times because either a) he's been serving a silent ban or b) they know he couldn't have recovered from his supposed knee injury without help.
     
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    This is just pathetic. Djokovic isn't tested in 6 months : "He's doping!"
    Nadal is tested 4 times : "He dopes!"

    Just pathetic.
     
  18. mariecon

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    when did I say that?
     
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    Not you, specifically. The Tards in general.
     
  20. Tennis_Hands

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    Let's face it.

    With the current testing, 0 tests and 10 tests will yield the same result, unless the player and his team are total retards.
     
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    It is all PR maneuvering on behalf of the ITF. Say we tested Nadal 6 or 7 times and people will believe we are serious about catching dopers. They aren't serious about catching dopers. The big players can afford the best drugs which are ahead of the testers and even if these big players fail a drug test and get caught, we won't know about it. They will only throw out a lesser player being caught every now and then.
     
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    I don't think you understand what *circumstantial evidence* means. You may need to educate yourself on that one.

    As another poster said, if Nadal's doping they all are at the top.
     
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    Maybe there's a power struggle at the top of tennis and they want to take Nadal out of the equation for some mysterious reason?

    What is the motive for Nadal being so extensively tested?
     
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    Even if they did test him that many times they probably told him it was coming so he could be prepared. It's become an frigging joke. You know this guy's gonna come back as if he was never away and no one will ask the questions. Knee, my ***.:shock:
     
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    If the testing regime is inadequate then theyre all suspect and not just the ones we dislike.
     
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    I agree. But some are more suspect than others.
     
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    I agree with you. That is why I just shake my head and laugh at people who think he is really badly injured and done. He'll be running around like a demon on the clay of Roland Garros soon. He will keep the "knee injury" in close proximity just in case he needs to use it as an excuse.
     
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    None are more suspect than others. The suspicion that falls on certain players varies in proportion to how well they do against Federer.
     
  29. mariecon

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    that's complete b.s. :rolleyes:

    Djokovic is suspect because of his sudden domination in 2011 and his 7 match win streak against Nadal. Nadal is suspect because he never tires. Plays 5 setter after 5 setter and looks fresh as a daisy (among other things such as mysterious layoffs and tournament withdrawals).
     
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    Um, no, I know exactly what it means and I stand by my statement.

    I think the guys at the top probably all dope but there has certainly been more attention and suspicion around certain players over the years.
     
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    I always enjoy your work vlbj :)
    Bump for new forum members.
     
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    thx for the bump... i just hope the thread title won't trigger (again) massive riots of panic in the streets of närdistan ! ;)
     
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    Pretty accurate if I do say so myself.
     
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