Nadal uncertain of fitness level for U.S. Open

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  1. veritech

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=4385847

    he blames his injuries on the season's congested schedule, when it was his choice to play tournaments that weren't mandatory and its his choice to play the style that he plays.

    why even enter the tournament if your not 100%? sounds to me like he's making excuses for losses he hasn't even suffered yet.
     
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  2. ninman

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    Funny, but I don't hear Federer complaining about the schedule. Nadal has no right to complain about it, because he chose to play a lot of tournaments this year, and he also chose to play doubles tennis. Totally and utterly hypocritical.
     
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  3. Absolutely, insecurity, he wants the world and the press to know that IF he loses it was because....insert cause
     
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  4. mandy01

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    Precisely..This is pretty much what Roger said when he was asked ( I think during the early days of RG) about what he thought of such complaints.
    He said he dosent buy it at all..especially when a player has the authority to choose the tournaments.He simply said "the players are in-charge of their own schedule." No one's forcing Nadal to play events that will eventually take a toll on his body.
    he even plays exhos like some masters finals..sheesh.
     
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  5. Yeah ,i never understood why Nadal often plays double, i mean sure he can practice serve volley and returns but its not gonna help his knees, thats for sure...
     
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  6. World Beater

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    nadal is full of ....

    he was the one telling all the reporters after his french loss that it wasn't the schedule which did him in...after all he has played the same schedule for a few years now in the clay season and won RG all those years.
     
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    Sort of .......
     
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  8. mandy01

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    If the number of HC tournaments were reduced for his sake and if the schedule was modified for his sake it would be ridiculously unfair to Roger.
     
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  9. They will never be, he doesnt even have a case, there are claycourt-tournaments the whole year that he can play.
     
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    Nadal is probably the biggest sandbagger in the history of tennis, so I wouldn't take this seriously.
     
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  11. mandy01

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    LOOOL Yeah..the sudden change in tone is rantworthy :roll:
     
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    @veritech,sounds like you don't know how it is to recover from an injury.

    When you don't play tennis for 2 months it's tough to come back and say you will rule.Tendinitis is a fickle condition.You can play through it,as Nadal has done in these years,but if the pain gets too big after a certain match you can have problems even if you felt pretty good before.

    I saw Nadal's TVE interview and he said that after 2 months he still feels some pain but he said he wants to give it a try.No big expectations.He still feels pain after 2 months even if his doctor said that 3-4 weeks should be enough so his tendinitis flare-up isn't as light as some made it out to be.
    He said that he doesn't know if he'll be fit for USOpen,because,guess what,he CAN'T know,not until the last week,when he will see how his knees are feeling.Montreal is like a glorified exo for him.If he will have problems in the first matches he will pull out and realise it was a mistake.If he feels ok it means he can go on and get into a rhythm again.

    Nadal's biggest mistake is not neccesarily his play style(he won 6 GS with that style)but his scheduling.He has played barcelona,rotterdam and madrid,which he shouldn't have.That's 3 weeks worth of play and he should have skipped them.He even said that Madrid was a mistake.

    I don't think he is making excuses.He is making sure that people have low expectations,just like he and his team have.As I have said before there are only 2 possible outcomes:

    1)he plays the first matches and feels ok.He either goes deep or gets eliminated,just like any other player out there.

    2)his knee acts up again and retires in first or second match.He realises this was a mistake and probably doesn't play again until USOpen.
     
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  13. mandy01

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    I think its a tactic to ,again,play the underdog which he loves to.
     
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    Nadal's english is bad so take everything he says with a grain of salt.When he was asked about the schedule,he responded that he has played the same schedule in previous years so he didn't think that it would be a problem in 09'.But his body has caught up to him this year and he realised it.That's why he is saying things about scheduling now.

    But IMO he shouldn't complain.He's the one that added another full unneccesary month of tennis to his schedule by playing rotterdam,barcelona and Madrid.I think this is a real catch 22 for him.In order for Rafa to get into form,into a rhythm if you will,he needs to play a lot of matches,a lot of tournaments.But playing too many can hurt his body.But if he plays too few he can't get good enough because he will have little competitional mileage.

    I am very curios to see how his schedule will look next year.
     
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  15. Might be,id say he didnt feel comfortable being the one everyone chased, he rather be the one chasing
     
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  16. GasquetGOAT

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    Why is he still making excuses for the FO loss 3 month later? Guess he never slept well over it. Soderling should give him some kind of closure or we will never hear the end of it...
     
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  17. I agree, that is the past now...it still disturbs him im sure.
     
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  18. mandy01

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    Yep..thats my opinion too.He dosent like to be the one going in with all the pressure .
     
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    Nadal already with excuses for the US Open, just in case he losses?

    Another chapter in the greatest rivlary in tennis - Nadal vs. the knees.
     
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  20. namelessone

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    It's all about the mentality.Nadal needs a target.It's not even that he is the target,he hold on to the nr.1 for almost a year and trust me,if his scheduling wouldn't have been so f***d up he could have defended RG and perhaps even WB and would have more than happy to remain the hunted,even though he is naturally a hunter.

    After 4 years of dominating clay and stedily improving on grass and HC Rafa reached that part of his career where things get rough.If I am not mistaken he had over 3000 points over Fed before RG and he could have gotten away with losing 2 slams if Federer had continued his decline.But that's how things fell into place.No one was questioning Rafa's hunted or hunter preference when he won his first GS as nr.1 in AO this year.
     
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    preemptive excuses :lol:

    And people have the nerve to bash Roger.:roll:
     
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  22. Lol, thats a nice rivalry,no`?
     
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    Bodo actually did.I believe it was in reference to that 'animal excitement" comment of Rafa's
     
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  24. P_Agony

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    I actually think it's uncle Tony behind all of this. I think he took the RG loss harder than Rafa.
     
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    What a joke. Look I fully realize you are a bunch of living with your parents fanboys who live and die by a tennis player who wouldn't want anything to do with you in person.

    I also realize you know nothing about tennis, but, you are SUPPOSED to at least know something about Federer.

    FEDERER HAS complained about the schedule before (as has nearly every top player in the last 20 years) AND Federer has made almost IDENTICAL comments (MORE THAN ONCE) coming off injury.

    So get informed, and grow up kids.
     
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    NO HE HASNT.PERIOD.
    He has spoken about the schedule but never whined about it the way Rafa does.And he did so only last year because of the Olympics.
    The rest of your post is crap.
     
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  27. JongJong

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    Ever since Nadal is doing this it kind of makes him not like him more and more.....
     
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    I like the term 'preemptive excuse':twisted: And I agree uncle Tony is behind this.
     
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    I doubt that, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one keeping this in the press. But it doesn't really matter. If you play, you're ready. So, if Nadal is at the USO and he doesn't trip while there then he is prepared.
     
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  30. I agree, i remember that.
     
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    Its called the pressure of being the best and being expected to win..its not easy to handle for anyone..Nadal's a great guy( although I dont agree with him on that one) but maybe now his fans might understand where Roger was coming from.
    Its not easy to handle the expectations of winning every single match you play.
     
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    lol Nadal has been brainwashed by his fans. This all explains were guys like (nadal_freak, veron, King_grass) have disappeared to they have been in touch with nadal :)
     
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    Nadal_Freak and veron are not Nadal fans, but rather Nadal haters. Just ask drakulie, he'll tell you all about it.
     
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    He realised his mistake,that's why he is talking about it now.He admitted that Madrid was a mistake.It's not an excuse,it's the reality that Nadal now has to face.He cannot enter tournaments with bum knees anymore.He has done so in the past it worked for him but time waits for no one and neither does tendinitis.He now knows that he cannot enter another Slam if he doesn't feel good.He entered his most succesfull Slam that away and didn't even make quarters.I think he was hurt by 2 things at RG:the fact that he lost to soderling of all people and that the crowd ignored him and even cheered his defeat,supporting soderling even in the 4th set tiebreak.He knew that defeat at RG would come one day,not that it would come like this.

    Personally I think that the WB withdrawal hurt more.It's one thing to play and lose but I think it hurts more to stay at home,especially when you are the defending champion,while everyone else is at the greatest GS.
     
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  36. Oh THAT explains it:)
     
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  37. mandy01

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    Why Madrid? Why not Barcelona?( fewer points right?) Because he lost in Madrid?
    Dont buy it and no I dont want to hear how attached he is to the tourney..Roger is extremely attached to Basel but missed it in 2005 because he wasnt sure of his fitness.
     
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  38. namelessone

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    I can't seriously believe that one guy can like the nr.2 more than the number 1.As I have said before,if Fed would have continued his decline as Nadal hit his no one would have made the hunter/hunted comparison.
    Nadal has also been hunted.He defended his nr.2 for 160 weeks while chasing nr.1 spot and I bet he liked his time at nr.1.He has defended it from djokovic a few times and now he has to defend it from murray.

    If he wouldn't have sabotaged himself by playing so much he would probably be at nr.1 still.
     
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  39. NickH87

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    wahhhh nadal said this....wahhhh nadal said that.....im going to cry like a little baby because nadal said hes not ready....wahhhh
     
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  40. :cry::cry::cry::cry:
     
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  41. Hey, does your mother know that you are up this late??
    Constructive critisizm is always appreciated, your post, is gonna make u look like a ******
     
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  42. mandy01

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    Being no1 is a lot different than being no.2.For all these years except on clay Roger was the fav. going into all the events..suddenly it was Nadal.Its not easy to deal with.Even on clay so many expected Fed to overcome someone as brilliant as Nadal.
    All in all it changed.I'm sure he liked being there.But handling the pressure is an entirely different thing.He was new to it in some ways.
     
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    Yup. You could include, The Truth in that group as well. Never seen posters make one player look like such a sissy.
     
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  44. namelessone

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    After playing in Madrid he had more pains and went to see a doctor and got another diagnosis.This is what the man himself said so I have to believe him.But he had pains in the clay season as well(since Monte Carlo) and won so I'm sure he thought that he could win RG as well.
    Also another reason he got pains in Madrid is because of the Djokovic match,because he actually got a bye in that tournament so he played less but the djoker pushed him hard in that match.3 weeks of unnecessary tennis(rotterdam,barcelona,madrid) took their toll on him.He got injured in the rotterdam final and had problems after the madrid one so it's not like this was made up.
     
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  45. What did they say?? And they were supposed to be Nadal fans?
     
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  46. フェデラー

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    where are the tards at?
     
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    well he could've easily skipped Barcelona instead of playing 3 consecutive weeks.Or does he not understand his own limitations?
    And Djokovic pushing him was a matter of chance.It dosent make playing Madrid a mistake.
     
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  48. I'm right here.
     
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    You would assume a poster called Nadal's Freak would be a fan of Nadal. :)
     
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    :lol: :lol:
     
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