Nadal vs. Federer (Hamburg Final)

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Who wins this match?

  1. Nadal in 2

    22.9%
  2. Nadal in 3

    16.3%
  3. Federer in 2

    10.5%
  4. Federer in 3

    50.3%
  1. Dangus

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    Nadal is the only active player who currently has a winning head-to-head record against Federer after five matches. He currently enjoys a 7-3 advantage (5-0 on clay, 2-2 on hard courts, and 0-1 on grass).

    2007: Monte Carlo - Nadal def. Federer, 6-4 6-4

    2006: Tennis Masters Cup - Federer def. Nadal, 6-4 7-5
    2006: Wimbledon - Federer def. Nadal, 6-0 7-6(5) 6-7(2) 6-3
    2006: Roland Garros - Nadal def. Federer, 1-6 6-1 6-4 7-6(4)
    2006: Rome - Nadal def. Federer, 6-7(0) 7-6(5) 6-4 2-6 7-6(5)
    2006: Monte Carlo - Nadal def. Federer, 6-2 6-7(2) 6-3 7-6(5)
    2006: Dubai - Nadal def. Federer, 2-6 6-4 6-4

    2005: Roland Garros - Nadal def. Federer, 6-3 4-6 6-4 6-3
    2005: Miami - Federer def. Nadal, 2-6 6-7(4) 7-6(5) 6-3 6-1

    2004: Miami - Nadal def. Federer, 6-3 6-3
     
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  2. oscar_2424

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    Nadal in 3 sets.
     
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  3. Voltron

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    I picked Fed in three, I don't know why, as I don't think he'll win, I guess I don't want to make the poll lopsided. ;) We'll see though, maybe he can pull it off.
     
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  4. jmsx521

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    I think Nadal will bite-mark another trophy tomorrow.
     
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  5. Andres

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    Straight set win for Nadal tomorrow. One break per set. You name the posibilities ;)
     
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  6. forzainter

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    i cant really see nadal losing, given how he manages to get through the toughest matches any player throws at him, Federer cant play like hewitt so i dont foresee him winning
     
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  7. malakas

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    Nadal in 2.Easy.
     
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  8. vive le beau jeu !

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    are you possessed again, sani ? ;)
     
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  9. Mikael

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    Federer has a good chance of winning. Nadal will be very tired, Federer might be a little tired as well, but he will be pumped up after all those 3 set wins against claycourters. It doesn't help Fed that it's a very slow surface, but he'll believe in his chances, especially after the fight Hewitt put up today. I'll make a bold prediction and say Federer in 2...
     
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  10. DueSouth

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    Federer still isnt convincing me that he can beat Nadal yet.
    Rafa in straights
     
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  11. Zaragoza

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    Federer always has a chance but couldn´t convert any of his 5 chances on clay before.
     
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  12. malakas

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    what??No!!

    I am just jinxing!shhh! ;)
     
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  13. Breaker

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    10th masters series, number 82, and 8-3 against the great one coming up :)
     
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  14. vive le beau jeu !

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    ah ok ok... go on, jinx it !!!
    emmm well so yes yes you are possessed. :rolleyes:
     
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  15. mmuubb

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    I think that it's the best possibility so far for Fed to beat Nadal on clay-it's his tournament, Nadal is tired and maybe lost a little confidence after todays hardcore fight with Hewitt....
     
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  16. zpeed7

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    Picked Nadal in 3, but I'm not really sure...
     
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  17. Nadal_Freak

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    I picked Nadal in 3 sets. I'm not feeling to comfortable with it though. Just hoping.
     
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  18. Zaragoza

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    Federer struggled to beat Monaco, Ferrer and Moya. It seems both Nadal and Federer aren´t playing their best.
     
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  19. l_gonzalez

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    Federer in 3...

    He has nothing to loose so i reckon he'll just relax and start ripping winners from everywhere, and also shanking balls from everywhere.
    Winners will outnumber the shanks and he'll win.
     
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  20. newbiett

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    whenever I predict fed win fed loses. so this time I predict he loses but secretly hope he'd win.
     
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  21. nikdom

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    Rendezvous in Paris

    Hear, Hear...

    I hope so. Nothing against Nadal who needs to be commended on his terrific run, but I think if Federer can win this final, there will be more drama and anticipation in the French. What's one clay title less to Rafa?

    On the other hand, Federer will get a big boost in confidence and hopefully the FO final will be the real deal....thrilla in manilla so to speak...

    Or is it Rendezvous in Paris :)
     
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  22. zpeed7

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    What would be funny though, regardless of who wins tomorrow, is that both Rafa and Fed are so tired from all these tournaments, they go on to the FO and both loose before the final... hehe And someone like Joker, Davy, Hewitt, or even Gonzo ends up winning the FO. Now that would be interesting...
     
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  23. If Federer is going to break the streak this is the time. He's played FAR less matches because he's been losing so much so he should have far more energy. Nadal has been playing non stop and just had a tough three set match where people remarked he looked tired. As a result if Federer wins I think it means little, but I know there would be an uproar from Federer fans. :p
     
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  24. megraf

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    Well, Monte-Carlo was a wash out. Rafa in straight sets. Sow why not again?? But the obvious winner is Rafael Nadal, the King of Clay. It will not be Roger Federer who wins Hamburg TMS, it will not be Roger Federer who will snap Rafa's clay streak.
    Somehow, Rafa will always come in the way of Roger winning on clay, and steal victory from him. :)
     
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  25. megraf

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    What's one less clay title to Rafa????? He's teh King of Clay!
     
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  26. megraf

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    That would be stupid. Not the least bit interesting. They would have only won because R and R wouldnt have been playing. They wouldnt stand a chnace otherwise. :p
     
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  27. Zaragoza

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    I agree. Nadal has nothing to prove on clay. The pressure is on Federer, he needs to beat him on clay like Nadal beat him on hardcourts twice.
    If Nadal loses he knows he can beat Fed. If Fed loses again on clay his record would be 0-6 and his mental block would be even bigger.
     
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  28. VamosRafa

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    It's tough for anyone to rip winners on this slow court -- we've seen a lot of long rallies this week.

    I think Rafa will win, but this is a golden opp for Roger, as Rafa is looking a bit tired and he certainly didn't play his best today. If he doesn't play his best and Federer ups his level of play, Fed could win it. I think a lot of it has to do with how Rafa plays tomorrow. If he plays his best, it's going to be tough for Roger.
     
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  29. FedFan_2007

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    Good one! Winners-Shanks ratio will be key.
     
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  30. Andres

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    How is thart hardcore fight going to make him LOSE his confidence?? If anything, it's a confidence BOOST!

    Nadal in straights.
     
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  31. mmuubb

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    What I meant to say is that Nadal is used to win rather easilly on clay, and rarely has to fight so much for it-and today he was close to a random 3rd set tiebreak with Hewitt, who by definition is not a decent clay opponent(thats just the the stereotype) and it should be an easy win for him. Despite it being a great win for Nadal, he could lose some confidence because of thinking" I the rather weak clay-courter Hewitt could come so close, what can others do". On the other hand, Andres, Your way of thinking also makes sense-I guess we will see tomorrow:)
     
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  32. Grimjack

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    I like Fed as much as anybody, but if he wins tomorrow, it doesn't mean ####. Ditto if he loses. There's one important clay match per year, and it isn't till next month.
     
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  33. Morrissey

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    Nice numbers. Now just add 3 FO's in a row. Hopefully. ;-)
     
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  34. Morrissey

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    You're mostly right on this one, it doesn't add to the slam count but it certainly works on the psyche doesn't it? If Fed wins this match he'll boost his low confidence vs Nadal on clay. He'll know that it's possible to beat him on clay, which is something that deep down in his heart of hearts he doesn't believe, yet.
     
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  35. edmondsm

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    Federer in 2. I see I'm in the minority, which is not suprising, as there is no way in hell that Federer is going to win in two. But I'm a rebel what can I say.
     
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  36. edmondsm

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    What a great rivalry this is huh?
     
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  37. Hot Sauce

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    What channel will it be televised live on? TVU player doesn't seem to have Tennis Channel anymore, so I might be stuck with watching a replay on TSN :(
     
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  38. Dangus

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    I'm tempted to just watch the replay later in the day, because the final will be televised live at 5 AM here in California.
     
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  39. @wright

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    Federer 7-5 6-4. Wait til tomorrow afternoon. I'm gonna get on here and gloat in all you little Nadallette faces! Fed in 2, you heard it hear first. No way Fed loses this one!
     
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  40. inyourface

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    Big final comming, I feel in my hurt leg .
     
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  41. skip1969

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    WORD! all fed REALLY cares about at this point are the slams. he's thinking about his spot in the hall of fame. if you asked him where he would have preferred losing this year, in melbourne or in monte carlo/rome/hamburg . . . i think he'd opt for the clay court strike out and keep his aussie slam. tomorrow's match doesn't mean squat, other than to shut everyone up about the friggin' clay court streak and the losses to nadal.

    why'd nadal play hamburg, anyway? i hope we're not gonna start hearing the 'nadal is worn out from winning everything on clay' excuses.
     
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  42. Shaolin

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    Fed is getting serious and taking Nadal DOWN. 6-3, 6-4

    If my prediction is wrong, who cares, I dont know you people!!!!!(copyright @wright 2007)
     
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  43. NamRanger

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    Federer has shown some mental determination these past few days, I think even though his matches have been close and he hasen't played his best tennis, he is showing that he isn't mentally frail anymore.
     
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  44. @wright

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    I just got an email from Federer, he says he is sure he'll win this one in straights. He said Nadal looks tired and is asking for a good beating. Thus, I am staying with my prediction earlier in the thread. And if I am wrong........................................................................................................................................................................................................I STILL don't know you people! You won't be able to rag me in the parking lot Monday morning when you see me, because, you won't!
     
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  45. Mick

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    Federer is going to prove to the world that he doesn't need a coach to win tournaments :)
     
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  46. Attila the tennis Bum

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    especially to Nadal on clay. I can't believe that people actually voted for Fed in 2!!! I will take that bet!
     
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  47. @wright

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    We'll have the last laugh! Fed in two!
     
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  48. Zaragoza

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    So it seems that if Federer loses it´s not important and if he wins it means something. I get the idea :D
     
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  49. @wright

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    You got it! Finally someone is figuring us out! Fed in two!
     
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  50. circusmouse

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    I agree with the people who say Roger should go into this feeling no pressure. Whether or not he takes that approach, I don't know. Facing Rafa on clay is the only time he's not expected to win, and that should free him to play without fear, because there truly is nothing to lose and everything to gain. He knows Rafa is exhausted, so that should fire him up. He needs to go out there tomorrow like a shark that smells blood. Fearless and predatorial. That's how Nadal plays virtually all of the time against Fed. Also, a number of critics have been weighing in on how he should play to beat Nadal on clay, and he's bound to have heard some of those ideas. He should have multiple game plans to fall back on. I'm saying should here, not will. Imagine how high the drama will be if Fed wins Hamburg and then they meet in the final of the French.
     
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