Nadal will retire this year

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  1. RogerRacket111

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    As much as I would love to see him back the way things are going for him I think he is headed towards retirement. I think its hard for him to come back after such an extended break. When he comes back he is not going have the mental edge. He will attempt to go straight to the clay court season where he feels most comfortable. In the end he will retire much sooner than Roger.
     
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    As much as I don't think that Nadal has much more time left in his career, I think saying he'll retire in 2013 is rather premature. Especially since we have not see him play in 6 months.
     
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    Yep, if only Nadal could retire right as he is about to thoroughly destroy federer's slam record. The ideal world for a Talk Tennis poster. :p
     
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    ^^

    You've completely lost it my friend. :lol:
     
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    that's sad

    I can't believe this virus thing.
     
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  6. Phoenix1983

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    It is certainly likely he will retire very soon.

    He will retire with the exact same slam record as Borg (11 wins, 5 losing finals).

    Never will he be able to be mentioned in the same breath as Fed and Sampras.
     
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    Nadal wont be mentally ready to compete on the pro tour any more whether he makes a comeback or not.
     
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    I don't think it's "likely", but unfortunately I think it's no longer outlandish. One more postponement ~ calling off his Acapulco comeback to avoid the IW/Miami hardcourt double-header and waiting until Monte Carlo instead ~ and I'll start to get nervous.


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    Wow, wow, wow, hold your horses buddy. Sampras didn't even win all 4 slams and has about half as many master titles as Nadal.

    This prediction is WAY premature. We'll know more about where Rafa stands after the clay season. His results on hard have been a bit shaky since 2009 (with the shining exception of his USO 2010 success) but his results on clay have stayed strong. I'm not gonna give credit to any definitive statement until we see what happens on clay.
     
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    IF he plays on clay. Can't believe I'm even saying this... but if he doesn't show at Acapulco, I don't think he will return. :(
     
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    If he doesn't show up on clay, yeah, everything is lost but I still believe he WILL show up on clay. I believe if all events since Wimbledon had been on clay, he would have already got back. Can't blame him for being a bit more nervous about hard court, given the circumstances.
     
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    do you also believe in Santa Claus?
     
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  13. Towser83

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    I hope he does show up but i am so used to the endless delay that i no longer expect anything. the thing is if he knees have been bad all this time and he's only started to practise in the last month(?) then it wouldn't have been a good idea to have returned by now if there had been clay. if he is fit to play he has to come back asap to get some matchplay.

    Also now if he returns in acapulco there is a chance he will get beaten in a clay 500. Big knock to confidence. maybe he will skip that and play iw but if he misses both then i fear the worst.
     
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  14. Mike Sams

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    The calendar is a major grind. Add in all the travelling and press and training and tournaments and Nadal may not want to do it anymore. He was vocal about the calendar for years. Now he wants to be a full time golfer and part time poker player.
     
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    I think you're a little confused in which year you are...
     
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    Bold statement that retires this year despite the setbacks.
     
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  17. Mike Sams

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    So how does this work if Nadal can't ever regain his best form? If he retires, does it mean Nadal won the battle but Federer won the war? I mean this is ALL ABOUT the Slams!
     
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  18. RogerRacket111

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    If he retires Federer does with the war. But it will still nag him that he has a losing record against his main rival. But history will favor Federer. Nadal will be a Borg like figure.
     
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    Nadals retirement will be much like pulling out of a match due to cramping when your up by a set. I think fitness and longevity is part of the game and preparation. In the end Federer wins.

    I would have loved to have seen Roger figure out how to beat him with that one handed backhand.
     
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    Federer's not gonna figure anything out at age 31. He can't even figure out Berdych anymore in the Slams by the looks of it.
     
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    Sure, sure. You can't honestly believe that is what is really going on here can you? :oops:
     
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    Not sure if his retirement is imminent but something isn't right and its possible his body just can't take the brutal beating it once did. He may be forced out of the game without any other choice but to hang it up.
     
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  23. RogerRacket111

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    Dont worry Nadal is not going to figure out how to play Poker or Golf by the time he will be 31 :)
     
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  24. Mike Sams

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    "He's writing cheques his body can't cash!" - Agassi
     
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  25. RogerRacket111

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    So true could not have said it any better
     
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    I fail to understand why you feel so threatened by Nadal. No matter what either player does, Nadal will retire as the best clay court player ever, he has no contester on that surface, while his records are not even close to Fed's on hard court. You should worry about Djoko more. He's the one with 4 slams, 2 WTF and 10 masters on hard already. He's much more likely to challenge Fed's records on hard than Nadal in the next 5 years or so. On grass, why worry? You'd have to be a bit braindead to fear that Rafa is gonna win 5 Wimbledon + in the next few years. So, what's left? The head to head? Big deal. 17 slams speaks for itself.
    In a nutshell, I cannot figure out where your high sense of insecurity and intense manic need to put Nadal down come from :confused:
     
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    About time you saw the light. I have been saying since he went out injured that he wouldn't come back.
     
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    Wonder what the threads were like in 2009 regarding Nadal after his injuries and family issues?

    Some of you are being entirely too premature, just like then!
     
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  29. Mike Sams

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    5 Slams. Also, when did I put Nadal down? The only thing I ever questioned was his superior endurance/stamina over all the other players on the tour while being lazy with his workouts on a great diet of chocolate chip cookies and playing video games with Lopez. :lol:
     
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    No, Djokovic has 4 slams on hard-court. :p
     
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  31. Mike Sams

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    Nadal only took a 2 month break back then and was back on hardcourts for the autumn season. Now he's 3 years older, more broken down and trying to make another comeback after 6-7 months...
     
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    Time will tell. I hope I'm proved wrong. Try taking a year off competitive tennis and try to come back with a dingy knee the foundation of your game.
     
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    If Nadal is serving a silent ban for drug use, he should be banned from tennis and stripped of all his titles. It means he had an unfair edge on his competition. I guess these details will all come out long after he's retired. If not from him then somebody else who played in his era. Similar to Jose Canseco who ratted out Mark McGwire and others.
     
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    Thank you! I guess not everyone can read...
     
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    And one on grass winning as a novice over experienced veteran Nadal playing his peak tennis :)
     
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  36. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    Yes, it's common on Talk Tennis. :p
     
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  37. Semi-Pro

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    The Nadal is finished.
     
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  38. Retaliation

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    The one thing that doesn't make sense about the retirement is this: why would he wait to announce it? Why not just retire instead of pulling out of events every month? I just don't think he is quite done...and I am NOT a fan of Nadal, his tennis, nor his "tactics".
     
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    I'll see if he will play on the dirt first. If he comes back playing with Acapulco, he can get some match play in first before the big clay tournies show up. It doesn't matter if he loses in Acapulco, IMO...as he'll raise his level of play accordingly in the bigger events.
     
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  40. monfed

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    Ralph should become more serious about his golf career,all he needs to do his swing his golf stick and the golf car(whatever its called) can take him everywhere so his knees won't be harmed. Plus golf courses are of mostly grass so it's easy on his body.
     
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  41. Retaliation

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    I hope he's done, but his wishy-washy ways are far more exciting than seeing him on the court, so keep it coming Ralph.
     
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    Quality poster you are. Definitely should have stayed a lurker.
     
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    That is another thing, do you honestly think a person with the knee injury Nadal supposedly has would be golfing? No way.
     
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  44. Retaliation

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    LOL. Thank you, Yoda. But I am serious, and once again, you have a hard time when an opinion isn't the same as yours. Nadal's "game" is boring, and his absence is hella more interesting.
     
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    He is not retiring at least not by his own choice. If that were the case he would have announced it already and split the scene. That retirement scenario makes no sense at all.
     
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    I don't care about your opinion. I don't like Eeyore and find him, his game, and his trashy family to be abhorent, but I do not wish for him to retire and take joy in doing so. See the difference now?
     
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  47. Mike Sams

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    It takes years for athletes to come to terms with the end and to make the announcement. Why should Nadal retire? He's getting lots of good money offers and endorsements. Do you think Nadal will even have 1/10 of his fanbase when he's retired. Nobody cares about retired athletes. He's not retiring for a few years anyway.
     
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  48. Mike Sams

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    Yeah right! :lol: You HATE him, you despise him. You don't like him winning, let alone beating your beloved little Rafa.
     
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  49. Retaliation

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    Yes you do.

    Your "point" sucks. I don't care to see Nadal play another match. I love tennis, and don't like his game. See what I'm talking about now? It doesn't take a genius.
     
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    To people who can't comprehend that you don't have to like someone's game, but to wish for them to retire, get injured, or die is going too far.


    You definitely know that.
     
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