Nadal withdraws from Bercy

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  1. Ledigs

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    Do we know why?
     
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  2. GasquetGOAT

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    Djokovic?


    10c
     
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  3. Ledigs

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    He's probably gonna use the time to practice
     
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    sigh. he better perform at the O2, very lethargic end to the season
     
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  5. Tammo

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    He's just giving Murray a better shot at the #2 ranking.
     
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  6. batz

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    Why?

    Because he can.
     
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  7. batz

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    After having to pull out of Basel, Murray has next to no chance of year end number 2. He'd need to win Paris and WTF without dropping a match and Rafa would need to lose all 3 RR matches.
     
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    You have to admit that those things are still possible. I would put Andy second behind Cvac to win Bercy and the WTF. And Nadal has lost all 3 RR matches at the WTF before,and did so without even winning a set so that scenario is also a big possiblilty as well.
     
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    Hi Clarky. It's certainly possible, but highly improbable IMO. Murray has never made it beyond the QFs of Bercy and while Rafa did blow out at the WTF in 2009, he did make the final last year. I wish it was a strong possibility - but it's not IMO.

    I think the best that Murray can hope for is to get within touching distance before the start of the new season and then play/win one of the AO warm up events and sneak under the wire as second seed - which would be nice, as for the last 2 years, Murray has become 5th seed at the AO in the week prior to the event.
     
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    The courts are too fast for him.
     
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    Nadal has made the final at Bercy while Federer has not. Are the courts too fast for Roger too?
     
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    Federer is too exhausted from winning Basel or crying about losing the Basel final to care.
     
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    Will he be penalized for his withdrawal?

    I don't think his MS1000 600 match exemption starts until 2012. Next year he can choose to skip any MS1000 in addition to MC, which is currently optional.

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    He's probably focusing on winning another DC for Spain, as well.
     
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    ^^^He's focused...on counting his royalties from his autobiography.
     
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  15. Murrayfan31

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    Agreed. Bercy was pretty slow in 2007. Many complained. Bercy has become a much faster surface since then. It was noticeably faster in 2008 even.
     
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    No he gets to to take 1 off because he's played 600 matches.
     
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    Ouch. :lol:
     
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  18. ruerooo

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    I think he will, but he'll also be able to afford it.

    That. I think if WTF and the DC final weren't so close together, he'd compete. But I don't see why he's not entitled at this point to manage his schedule like Roger does. It's his body.

    I have a friend with Bercy tickets; I know she'll be disappointed, but at least he wasn't the only one she was going to see.
     
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  19. Bud

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    IIRC, he passed 600 matches in 2011. Therefore, the exemption doesn't start until the 2012 season.
     
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    Lol you are on a roll today Clarky.
     
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    He passed 600 ATP regular tour matches in 2011 but his 85 Futures and Challengers matches count towards his total so as at Dec 31, 2010 he had 658 matches credited to him thus allowing him to skip one masters in 2011. With Davis Cup finals coming up, I don't blame him a bit for skipping Paris. I'm sure he'd much rather win DC than play another tournament on his least favourite surface.

     
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    BTW, how is your friend the 4.5 player Polansky doing these days? :mrgreen:
     
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    That is the word I exclaim each time he excavates his posterior region. Thankfully, there will be no Parisian picking.
     
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    He skipped Bercy last year too. Did he get penalized for that? I don't think he did. How are the players penalized BTW?
     
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    Nadal should be penalized. Skipping the only fast court tournament of the year should be a big fine.
     
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    Zero point penalty included in their ranking for a year.
     
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  27. vernonbc

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    He missed Bercy last year because his shoulder was bothering him. He went to Paris for a couple of days and did media and pr for the tournament as is required by the ATP so no penalty was applicable. This year he's using the exemption he's eligible for for the first time.

    Q. What if a player is injured and can't play in a Grand Slam or ATP World Tour Masters 1000 tournament?
    A. If eligible to play in one of the Grand Slam or ATP World Tour Masters 1000 tournaments, a player must count the points from these tournaments, even if it is 'a zero pointer' because he missed the event. Just as in Formula One and numerous other sports, if a competitor misses a race or an event, he loses his chance to earn points. Players with direct acceptance who do not play an ATP World Tour Masters 1000 tournament will be suspended from a subsequent ATP World Tour Masters 1000 event which will be the next highest point earned ATP World Tour Masters 1000 event within the next 12 months. If an injured player is on site within the first three days of a tournament to conduct promotional activities over a two-day period, a suspension will not be enforced but a 0-pointer will be counted on a player's ranking.
     
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