Nadal's parents

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  1. endbegin

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    Just came across this article ... somewhere in the middle of the page, it is mentioned that Nadal's parents have now split.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article6558058.ece

    Here is the relevant text from the article dated Jun 23rd 2009:

    "Right now, such sensitive matters are on the mind of Nadal, at home in Majorca. For many weeks there have been whispers that all was not uncomplicated in the Nadal household, that his parents, Sebastian and Ana MarĂ­a, who hugged their son on the most joyous day of his life a year ago, had separated. Yesterday, we discovered that that was, in fact, the case, that Nadal had been playing in such a fog for the past couple of months, he should have been wearing luminous clothing. He is crushed and any fair-minded person has to be crushed for him."

    This could have as much of a deep psychological impact on his game as anything. Add the bad knees, the shock of losing early at the FO, pressure of being number 1 and the associated mental fatigue, the combination of which results in him pulling out of Wimbledon.

    I am no fan of Nadal's tennis, but I realize that his presence has been very beneficial for tennis in general. Obviously, he doesn't read TT forums, but here's best wishes to him anyway.
     
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  2. tahiti

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    We knew this was in the running since last year. Poor Rafa, what a time for his parents to split just at the pinnacle of his career. Not really kind of the parents. Though I suppose we don't know what the story is....and divorce is never fair. But they could have maybe waited a few years, if they've been so long together. Kids always feel to blame and Rafa always being away and so intensely busy in his career must make him feel rather awful. Specially coz this will be splashed all over the media and it doesn't fit with his "strong family image" that was so Nadal.
     
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  3. T. H. Park

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    That is too bad for the Nadal family. It must've been tough for Rafa - especially since he seems to be such a family oriented fellow, at least according to the media. His mental state has not been at the best level. Not a good time for Nadal.
     
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  4. angharad

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    The rumor that I've heard is that they've been waiting for Rafa's younger sister to turn 18. They've apparently been living separately for a year or more. That's no easier on the kids.

    Poor Rafa. :(
     
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  5. endbegin

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    ^^^ I don't think it is any use assigning blame in this situation. Stuff happens sometimes.

    (by the way, nice sig)
     
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  6. endbegin

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    That was meant for tahiti.
     
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  7. tahiti

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    Thanks. Sure stuff happens and it takes to tango but people are naturally selfish and they also make it happen because of their selfishness.
    Now Nadal's sister must begin college with a blow and Rafa has reached his dream while watching his personal life fall apart around it through no fault of his own. Hard to enjoy your success and doubly hard to be motivated. No. Sorry gotta blame someone here, there's no way to talk this good.
     
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    At least he got Uncle Toni
     
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  9. That would certainly explain his "it's personal" comment when he lost in Miami, referring to his problems.
     
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  10. VivalaVida

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    So unfortunate. :(
     
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  11. endbegin

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    Well, there will be a time for post-mortems but that is his family issue. Regardless, blaming is pointless because it won't change anything and will only make things worse.
     
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  12. nadal for number1

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    wow what a blow to nadal... hope he now comes back stronger than ever VAMOS RAFA!
     
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  13. charliefedererer

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    This is definitely going to affect Raffa more than the many players who went away to live at tennis academies. His home life was a pillar of his supreme mental strength. I can only hope his knees heal so he can pour all his energy back into tennis. Being injured right now lets this just eat away at him. But he still has to give the knees the proper time to heal, then alter his schedule to stay healthy.
     
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  15. joeri888

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    Gossip alert. He should be left alone in his personal life. I don't care much anyway. It doesn't have anything to do with tennis.
     
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  16. Actually it potentially has a lot to do with his tennis performance. It is gossip though. But still, it would explain quite a bit.
     
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  17. kanamit

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    If you're 23, and your parents divorce translates into YOUR personal life falling apart, something's up.
     
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  18. joeri888

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    IF it explains a lot that's Rafa's problem. Rafa played bad. Period. Do we care about the fact that Soderling slept bad before his final against Federer, because it might have affected his performance? Do we care that Verdasco's brother having a bad cough, gave Verdasco the flu which causes him losing twice in the first round of a grass court tournament? I don't. It's about what you bring to court, and how that's happened is their business IMO. Mono, knee injuries, exhaustion, divorce, heat, nerves everybody has problems it's about how you deal with it that counts for me. I rather talk tennis performance than about some possible explanation. I just conclude Rafa played a bad match against Soderling and Federer by his standards on clay.
     
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  19. angharad

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    So? Divorce sucks, regardless of your age or status. Family is clearly everything to him, and he's probably shattered by this.
     
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  20. CCNM

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    So it's 100% true that Rafa's parents are having marital problems? (there's a big difference between being separated & being divorced. Very sorry to hear that.
     
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  21. Lsmkenpo

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    BS, you have sympathy for him because he is your idol, I guarantee you wouldn't think twice if it was anyone else.

    I have been a member of bigbrothers/big sisters for the past 10 years, I lost both my parents when I was 12 years old.

    What have you done for kids that really need help?
    You want to see if Nadal needs a big brother?

    You don't know me, so cut the insults.

    I think it is pretty sad to spend time worrying about Nadal when there are 100 of millions of kids, that really need help, and sorry Nadal is not at the top of that list, dont care how many slams he wins.
     
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  22. Tennis_Bum

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    Fair statements. Just keep to the tennis. Personal issues, etc. are irrelevant when you are playing a match. Yes, it affects you but we are only interested in tennis in general. I like Fed, but I don't care how he handles fatherhood on his own time. I don't care how he juggles being a father and being a pro, that is his problem. When he plays, I just hope he can generate excellent tennis and the other personal issues that he has, well I can speak for everyone, but we all have them ourselves.

    We don't go to work and say to our manager, I screwed up this transaction and lost 4 million dollars because I have personal issues will you let it go. I promise to make it up to you next time. I think the manager is going to be sympathetic but that doesn't mean he won't make a business decision regarding that disastrous transaction.
     
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  23. Nadal_Freak

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    Of course you would think that way. You are the one that wrote down the filth. Mods will take care of you hopefully.
     
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  24. norbac

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    Poor Rafa. :( It's really sad seeing as how Nadal seems to be really close to his family.
     
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  25. Lsmkenpo

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    Think what way, elaborate?

    Oh because I put my energy and sympathy into people who really need it, not superstar millionaire tennis players who are grown men.

    It has nothing to do with Nadal, I would feel the same way if the thread was about Federer.

    It has to do with dumb threads praying for Nadal's knees and his parents separating.I think it is pretty damn sad that people focus that much energy on a tennis player, when I guarantee there are people right in front of their faces that really need the help, or sympathy, but will not get it, simply because they are not famous, absolutely pathetic.

    If the mods take care of anyone they will take care of you for insulting me, because you are obsessed, and can not differentiate reality, and take any opinion not supporting Nadal as a personal insult, what a joke.
     
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  26. Nadal_Freak

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    What's pathetic is how little you think of divorce. It is a horrible thing no matter how rich or famous you are. Death and divorce can not be made up by riches.
     
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  27. angharad

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    Because it takes so much energy to post that you have sympathy for someone when their parents are separating. And I'm sure no one but you on this thread volunteers with or donates to a worthy cause. I'm also sure that you know this about everyone who's posted on this thread, which is why you feel qualified to condemn anyone who's posted here.

    Oh, wait...

    Take your own advice.
     
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  28. Commando Tennis Shorts

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    So his opinion is to be discarded simply because it's different from yours? Who gives a crap if you thought his post was classless---it was his opinion, but you run to the mods like you're running to mommy and daddy.

    Grow up, all of you
     
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  29. dwhiteside

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    Somehow I doubt the reason for Nadal's last few losses are related to the divorce/separation in any way.
     
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  30. kanamit

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    Why does he need taking care of? Because he said something that offended you? His point came across rather crudely, but it's true nevertheless.
     
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  31. kanamit

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    What fantasy world do you live in where divorce affects impoverished children the same way that it affects millionaire 23 year olds? The point the post in question was making was that the horribleness of divorce varies according to the situation, and that some of the posters here are paying inordinate attention to Nadal's hardship just because it's Nadal's hardship, not because it's a devastating hardship. It's a tennis forum, so that understandable, but his point is still a good one though crudely expressed. Condemn it if you will, but to try and run to the moderators just because you don't like what he said? That's kinda classless too.
     
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  32. charliefedererer

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    Leublu, thank you. You are right about going to the mods about inappropiate posts.
     
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  33. MasturB

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    Really feel bad for Rafa.

    I'm a Roger fan first and foremost (he's the reason i started watching tennis more than casually).

    However, I see Rafa as a really good ambassador for tennis. Sure some people don't like the fact that his game is "rough" but he's still a damn good player. The only gripe I have with him is his pre-serve ritual that takes forever. Other than that, I love his fighting spirit on the court and his never give up mentality. I love how competitive he is and the power he brings onto the court physically and mentally.

    To see this happen to someone this young(no matter how much money he has) is pretty sad. Especially since all we've heard about is how close Nadal's family is. Nadal is a family man and so this must effect him pretty badly.
     
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  34. MasturB

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    I'm sure it affects rafa a good bunch considering how much of a family man he is. Sure he's a millionaire, but that doesn't mean he is immune to feelings.
     
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  35. kanamit

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    Look, I think it's unfortunate that Nadal's parents are splitting up. Considering that Nadal is so close (dependent upon?) his family, the divorce will hit him harder than in families that aren't so close. But to say that the divorce is horrible because Nadal is THIS young? Nadal is a grown man at an age where most people have moved out of the parents' house and have started a life of their own, often having a family of their own.

    I guess my point is that Nadal is not a little boy, though he seems to be infatilized by people in the media and on this forum.
     
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  36. kanamit

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    Where in my post did I say Nadal won't be affected? I said that it won't affect him in the same way that it affects minors, which is the point that the condemened poster made earlier.
     
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  37. I somewhat agree with lsmkenpo here...in that, if only people cared as much about regular folk as they do about the people they cling too in sports. The praying about Nadal's knees thing was in fact a bit over the top. As if God would actually care about the results of a sporting event, instead of the kid starving down your street?

    On the other hand divorce is pretty bad regardless of money. Seems like a lot of people like to say money doesn't buy you happiness, yet when something goes wrong in a rich person's life they say "Oh you feel sorry for someone who is filthy rich?" I certainly don't think divorce hurts less if you have more money. All money is is a means to buy stuff, and stuff never makes you happy unless you're a complete idiot.

    I'm sure this hurts (if it's true) for Nadal. But agreed, if people only cared about the hurting (actual) children everywhere else...

    I suppose the question in tennis terms is, will Nadal use this as an opportunity to grow or will it hurt his results.
     
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  38. angharad

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    That's a bit of a moot point, though: We know that Nadal is not an average 23-year-old. Anyone who knows who he is realises that. But a simple thread expressing sympathy for his parents' situation has turned into some bizarre debate about how much worse divorce is for other people. It's uncalled for, in my opinion. It's sad that one can't even offer sympathy without being criticised.
     
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  39. S H O W S T O P P E R !

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    Rafa still lives with his parents, though. Maybe he'll get his own place with Xisca.
     
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  40. kanamit

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    Well said, and I might add that I think lsmkenpo and me were emphasizing age more than money. The family is an economic unit in today's society, with children acting as the consumers and parents as the producers. Kids identities and coolness hinge on owning the newest and the most expensive goodies, so I don't think we should pretend that Nadal's $$$ wouldn't be a factor if, say, he was under the age of 18. Most kids who have divorced parents find themselves much less well off in what they can expect monetarily.
     
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  41. kanamit

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    Disagree. It wasn't the sympathy that was criticized. It was the lack of comparable sympathy for others who are perhaps in less shall we say stable positions. But I agree that it might have been a classier thing just to keep mum.
     
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  42. angharad

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    To go back to an earlier point I made: How do you (or anyone else) know that sympathy hasn't been expressed for others? This is a tennis forum, not a family issues forum. This thread is about Nadal, not about divorces in general.

    The criticism is unwarranted.
     
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  43. kanamit

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    We can only judge based on what we read in the forum, which is admittedly about tennis. I'm not sticking up for the poster's decision to criticize others. Just saying that I think the larger point he was making in his post is correct and should not be subject to censorship just cuz a few people have issues.
     
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    Awwww, isn't that just tooooo badd
     
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    And I can completely agree with that. I think people got that poster confused with another, who posted something rather crude and inappropriate. That post has since been taken care of, however, so I can't be entirely sure.
     
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    Divorce is a tough thing for any person to go do at any stage of life. Nothing but my best hopes go out to the Nadal family.
     
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    What piousness and concern! Did anyone stop to think that a divorce maybe exactly what the couple need? Maybe he's an a-h*le to her or she feels stifled in the "close-knit" family. Whatever the case, most times divorces are for the better especially if abuse or emotional trauma are involved.

    Rafael is no doe-eyed 8 yr old who wouldn't understand why mom and dad are divorcing and whose life would be forever altered because 2 adults decide marriage is not for them. He's a grown ass man with millions to boot. So stop your stupid commisseration like its a natural disaster. He'll deal with. I'm sure he can afford a counselor.
     
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  48. Tennis360

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    sad news. I hope Rafa remains strong amidst all these. wish him all the best.
     
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  49. Al Czervik

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    Too tired to read the whole thread.

    Something I ALWAYS think when I see mama Nadal.

    She = Carmela from The Sopranos.

    [​IMG]
     
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    LOL, papa Nadal looks like Tony Soprano too!
     
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