Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Mike Sams, Apr 29, 2013.
guess you missed the 2010 USO final
As I said, the slice itself is mediocre, but its effective because with nadal's speed it resets the point.
It will never be an offensive weapon or help set up a point, its strictly used to reset the poi nt or to disrupt a players rythym.
But, since rafa's slice doesn't get as low as others, its not too good as a rythym disrupter.
Steffi Graf, Amelie Mauresmo, and Martina Navratilova slice backhands are better than Federer's.
In Nadal's defense he doesn't need to have a great volley he just needs to do enough to win the point.
I mean present players since the first list you had has many inactive players. I agree with your 2nd list except that some of these guys (like Tsonga/Nalbandian) can hit amazing volleys but on a pure consistency basis I wouldn't consider them better than Nadal.
nadal is one of the best volleyer in the world, as simple as that
Nope, Federer's slice has more underspin and is more powerful, simply because he is not a woman.
Some people would argue that Mauresmo is not a woman either, but that is still being debated.
Yep, sorry... you're right. I forgot about Lopez. (The old guys evade me sometimes). He's the only one, I think though.
Love the slice from Rafa in this rally, so smooth and allowed him to take control of the rally...
Try slicing with the APD and tell me it is a good racquet to slice with. I think Nadal's slice is good enough for his game. It sits up because he often hits it in a very defensive position, and also because he prefers slicing against hard-struck balls DTL to the righty opponent's BH. The combination of these three things make the slice very hard to execute. I feel like it's still effective though as it gets him back into the rally and sometimes throws off the opponent's rhythm.
As I said, his slice itself is workmanlike, but its effective because with his foot speed, the pace taken off the ball is enough to reset the point to neutral.
Huh? It allowed his opponent back into the rally you mean. The tide was generally in Nadal's favour until he hit the slice then it went back to an even keel. Nadal was just aided thereafter by his opponent not being able to get on top in the rally and then Nadal hit a winner.
nah, absolutely disagree. tsonga and nalbandian pull off much tougher volleys routinely and are fairly consistent. If you are comparing that consistency with nadal who comes in mainly on fairly easy ones, I can't help it ....
coming back to the thread topic, he has a serviceable slice at best. His defense enables him to cover up for it not being that good ....
if we're talking about the top 4 ....
federer > murray >> nadal > djokovic
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